A mural

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    Scientific authorities

    ... presented as exemplars of a scientific variety of mainstream masculinity

    ... and those scientists probably often are viewed as geniuses with rare gifts and completely original thoughts.
    Such views about 'geniuses' justify authority and inequality, while denying actual interpersonal ties with societies (given, for example,. unrecognized discussions with co-workers that, in some cases, would contribute to a scientific discovery)

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    The mural is about a scientist who contributed to discovering insulin (with a helper who is included in the painting);
    but I'm highlighting the mural because of what it conveys about science, gender, men, and liberal individualism.

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    See the comments below for additional remarks.

    I'll highlight this part of what I had said down there -

    "Those figures and that chemical obviously could be presented in a variety of different ways in other paintings. (Perhaps another painter could show Banting with apparent emotions and apparent friendships, for instance). But in this case, the painter or painters happened to stick to common stereotypes, and it's those stereotypes -- rather than Banting, Best, and insulin -- that I was commenting on. Similar points could be made about representations of other scientists -- given stereotypical depictions of them. (How often do we see an Einstein actually talking with other people, for instance? Instead, we're supposed to believe that all sorts of insights came out of his totally independent brain -- alone.)

    I don't have anything against Banting, Best, or insulin per se, and I haven't said anything to that effect. "

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    Here's another Flickr post about issues like these -
    "An 'important' authority"

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    Here's another photo of the same mural about science -
    www.flickr.com/photos/35524633@N08/3591030821/
    (The weather was brighter that day; so I could get a better shot.)

    1. letsgetkatie 63 months ago | reply

      banting and best?

    2. Toban B. 63 months ago | reply

      There's a Banting museum not far up the street

      Now that I've actually looked at a photo of Banting, I see that the guy on the right looks like him. At first, I wasn't completely sure about whether that guy is supposed to be Banting.

    3. Snark63 63 months ago | reply

      It is Banting & Best. Learn your history. This guy is a national hero. These guys have litterally saved the lives of millions of people. All you can do is complain and navel gaze?

      If a cure for cancer is found in the future, and that cure happens to be invented by a man - perhaps you should refuse treatment if you were to unfortunately get the disease. After all, the discovery process would be "tainted" by a non-gender-neutral process - and you couldn't support that.

    4. Toban B. 63 months ago | reply

      "GRM63" -

      I haven't actually objected to insulin or uses of insulin -- let alone life-saving products of science. You don't mean to suggest that I have made such objections, do you?

      And how have I 'navel gazed'?
      I have commented on society --
      that is, on science, masculinity, men, and (above all) liberalism. The phrase 'navel gazing' suggests personal self-absorption.

      The mural basically is an image couple of guys in a lab (with beakers and so on); and it's that image itself that I was commenting on. The names of Banting and Best aren't even on the painting.

      I haven't actually said anything about Banting, Best, or insulin. Those figures and that chemical obviously could be presented in a variety of different ways in other paintings. (Perhaps another painter could show Banting with apparent emotions and apparent friendships, for instance). But in this case, the painter or painters happened to stick to common stereotypes, and it's those stereotypes -- rather than Banting, Best, and insulin -- that I was commenting on. Similar points could be made about representations of other scientists -- given stereotypical depictions of them. (How often do we see an Einstein actually talking with other people, for instance? Instead, we're supposed to believe that all sorts of insights came out of his totally independent brain -- alone.)

      I don't have anything against Banting, Best, or insulin per se, and I haven't said anything to that effect.

    5. Toban B. 63 months ago | reply

      "GRM63" -

      You're not going to hit me and then run, are you?
      You made accusations and I replied. Now it's your turn to respond.

    6. Toban B. 63 months ago | reply

      Isn't the Internet great?

      There are so many opportunities to fling attacks at people --
      and usually with little or no accountability.

      In other words, the Internet architecture is very liberal --
      given the distance that there tends to be between people online.
      It's easy to hit and run, for instance.

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