Taking the Vista Plunge

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    Well today I'm finally taking the Vista plunge. I'm upgrading my home office PC to Windows Vista. By way of disclosure, a friend of mine at Microsoft, Charlie Owen (thanks), sent me the copy of Vista to try. I gave Charlie some rights to use some of my photos so you might say that I bartered for the copy.

    So far my experience looks like this.

    First hurdle was that the operating system was on DVD and the PC that I wanted to upgrade didn't have a DVD drive, just a CD RW drive. This problem was quickly fixed though as I simply shared the DVD drive on my Media Center PC in my living room over my network and started the upgrade over the network.

    The upgrade thus far has been pretty painless but it's just taking a long time. This might be due to the fact that I'm upgrading over a network or that I've got a huge digital media library, not sure. But it's taken about 4 hours now and the upgrade status tells me I'm about 74% of the way done.

    Why am I upgrading to Vista you might ask?

    Well, most significantly I'm hopeful that I'll be able to search for photos by keywords with Vista. Recently I bought some boards approx 4 ft x 6 ft to begin making my first photo collage installations and it will be helpful to me to be able to search for photos on my drobos by keywords. I tried searching by keywords from my MacBook over the network (the drobos are formated NTSC and thus can't be connected directly to my Mac which won't read NTFS) but my Mac kept choking on the search queries. I think this is because my digital library is too large for the Mac to search it over the network.

    I'm also upgrading though to try out Media Center on Vista. I'm hopeful (but not expecting) that Media Center on Vista will be more responsive in handling my large digital library (over 100,000 mp3s and close to that many digital image files).

    If I like Vista enough I might buy a CableCARD Media Center PC later in 2008 and use XBox 360s as extender units in my home to handle all my digital media. This of course depends most of all though on whether or not I can get Media Center to effectively handle my large digital media library.

    I was going to pursue an AppleTV option (I got AppleTV for Christmas but took it back to the Apple store -- sorry Mom), but I think I'm going to give Media Center and Vista a chance first before completely throwing in the towel and trying an Apple strategy. I like the idea of the XBox 360 strategy that Microsoft has going for them as well as the fact that Media Center PCs can record HDTV which can then be distributed to the various televisions in my home.

    I'll report more on Vista after I get it up and working.

    Have any of you upgraded to Vista yet? If so what do you think of it? Love it? Hate it? Indifferent? If you haven't upgraded your PC to Vista yet, why not and do you plan to?

    Update #1: Ok, Vista is now installed, but we're off to a bit of a rocky start. First off, it looks really really slick. I like the design much more than XP. It did not seem to recognize my Dell 20 inch monitor -- at least by name. It has it down as some sort of a default Microsoft monitor but that's not much trouble. I was able to set the resolution to the highest setting and the desktop looks great. When it boots though the boot graphics are jagged and look kind of crappy on my monitor. No big deal of course.

    I got the system up for about 2 minutes and tried to do a photo search by tag neon on my drobo drive. It got about 85% of the way through the search progress bar and then the screen went totally black. I couldn't get the screen to come back on and the only way to get my system back up was a reboot (which I did).

    My first observation is that booting up my PC takes a lot longer on Vista than it did on XP. I didn't actually time the boot time but if the PC craps out again I'll time the reboot next time.

    Charlie (from Microsoft) told me that I should have run the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor before installing (which I never did).

    Update #2: Ok, upon reboot and playing around with Vista, I have to say that my display has never looked better. The fonts look different, everything is sharper, especially when viewing my photos online they look 1000% better than they did before with the same display on XP. I'm still not sure why this is the case, but it's a welcome improvement.

    Especially when browsing with Firefox everything looks amazingly sharp on the display.

    I'm running a search for neon photos on the Drobo again. It's taking a long time but there is a disclaimer that it will take a long time on a non-indexed drive. Hopefully I'll be able to figure out how to index this drive for faster searching of my photos in the future.

    Update #3: Ok, tag search works brilliantly. My first tag search for "neon" pulled up almost 1,000 photos of mine that I've keyworded neon using Adobe's Bridge. EXCELLENT! I'll have much more to write about the OS later, but the fact that I can now do keyword searches for my photos in Vista adds a lot of value for me.

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    1. Thomas Hawk 87 months ago | reply

      Care to opine here:

      Not just right now.

    2. Sisir Koppaka 87 months ago | reply

      Vista never looked so good!

    3. tracer.ca 87 months ago | reply

      I tried Vista Ultimate 64 Bit (I used to run XP x64 on my desktop) for over 3 weeks.

      I'm back to using XP x64.

      I don't use any of the microsoft software that would benefit from the things you mentioned. The main reason I tried out vista was for it's tablet integration as I have a Wacom tablet plugged into my computer. This worked great. The extra "pretty" was nice as well and worked great on my 8800 GTS.

      Why am I back then? Windows DRM. Every file you copy is checked for copy protection. I have several fast CF cards and several HDs. I have a 1394 card reader to make sure I can dump cards as fast as possible (about 38mb/sec in xp) After all the latest patches (the same ones included in SP1), the best I could get was 50% throughput on Vista compared to XP (5% without patches!) . So dumping my CF card from Camera or any HD to HD copying took 2x as long. This is simply unacceptable. I'm not going to suffer through 50% speed degradation on a basic system task because the MPAA thinks I'm pirating movies.

      I can't specifically recommend anything for the media centre type of software. But I know there are a lot of 3rd party solutions that may provide you with what you're looking for without the extra baggage of Vista.

    4. Williamo! 87 months ago | reply

      Great photo, can't say the same about Vista itself. ;-)

      I'm sticking with XP for the time being - even on a relatively fast machine (Core Duo T2300 / 2GB RAM) - it's (Vista is) slow. Unreasonably slow. And it's too damn big and bubbly (same complaint I had about XP initially, until I found new themes).

      Good luck with your copy, though!

    5. Daniel Kulinski 87 months ago | reply

      I am using 3 OS:
      XP Pro SP2 - desktop @ work - Athlon 3200+, 1.5 GB Ram,
      Vista Bussines - laptop @ home, Centrino 1.7, 1 GB Ram
      Mac OS X Tiger - MacBook - Core 2 Duo 2.0, 1 GB Ram

      XP is great for my work, i'm IT support and all programs are working very well - XP is "old" and it is most important.

      Vista is quite fast and nice looking ;) - but not all soft working good, and some functions are hard to find

      My wife bought MacBook - I DON'T WANT MS ANY MORE!!! :D
      It is fast and stable, everything is working with no problem - i'm still learning this OS.
      I cheked time to start for Mac - 40 s. from push power button to start www browser!!!

    6. martin0574 87 months ago | reply

      Vista? Commiseration!

      Try Linux and you will enjoy a great OS and your (old) hardware...

      And the best is that you do not have to pay extra for slickness it comes free. :)))

    7. [PG] [deleted] 87 months ago | reply


      Don't use Vista!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    8. monsieurgrand02 87 months ago | reply

      I upgraded to Office 2007 recently and I like the look. The main reason for the upgrade was to get Outlook 2007 so I can use Agendus with my T-Mobile Dash and sync between my phone and outlook.

      I'm still teeter-tottering (sp?) on Vista, though.

      Glad to see you back on Flickr, though, Thomas.

    9. Angad 87 months ago | reply

      I thought Picasa could search tags?
      And it runs on XP too.

    10. remco.brinkhuis 87 months ago | reply

      "my Mac which won't read NTFS"

      My macbook pro reads NTFS without any problem, I just can't write NTFS (legal issue with M$). You can write NTFS via VMWare or Parralels.

    11. Ed Karjala 87 months ago | reply

      I have also recently taken the Vista plunge, but on a brand new machine. With the right hardware, it seems to be a great OS experience. I like the GUI enhancements and am still getting used to some of the interface changes from XP (location of certain control panel items, controls, etc.). I Have also installed the RC for SP1 without incident. It is supposed to address many of the early Vista glitches and improve performance. So far, so good.

    12. Iberian Proteus 87 months ago | reply

      Leopard rules! lolololol. I HATE VISTA DEEPLY!...

    13. Damien Reynolds 87 months ago | reply

      This is a pretty awesome picture =)

    14. seizethedave 87 months ago | reply

      "Try Linux and you will enjoy a great OS"

      For anyone but a DIY tinkerist, I disagree. The several times I've set out to legitimately use Linux as my home operating system, it has been a non-stop system-twiddling, source-rebuilding headache.

    15. Ki's Way 86 months ago | reply

      status symbol :P LOL

    16. Alessandro Johnny (DESATIVADA) [deleted] 85 months ago | reply

      This is a very really nice photo. And i'm using as wallpaper. :D

      Thank You!

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