Point83 and Cascade Bicycle Club Venn diagram
I ride with a bike club called Point83. As a rule, most of the other members are 20's/early 30's college students and IT professionals with a few random members who fall well outside either the age, professions, or both that I mentioned for some extra spicy curry flavor. Also as a rule, most Point83 members would pretty cheerfully self-identify as an asshole. Not the kind of asshole you hear about in urban legend who breaks into your house while you are on vacation and does something unpleasant with your toothbrush, takes a picture of it with your camera, then leaves it for you to discover when you process your pictures, but an asshole all the same. For reference, if a Point83er sees another Point83er out, the first thing you do is flip them off, unless you're driving and they are riding a bike, in which case you follow them as close as you can while honking and screaming out the window about how much they are slowing you down and they had better get on the sidewalk where they belong. Right, we're those kind of assholes.
Anyway, as is our custom with asshholery, Point83 puts on several alley cat races which usually involve drinking prior to, during, and after the race, competition eating, dressing up, hobos, fist fights, partial/total nudity, bonfires, arguments with passing strangers, excessive profanity, and long romantic conversations with fire fighters and police officers. One of our long running events is a race around Banebridge Island on the same day as the Cascade Bicycle Club Chilly Hilly, which is usually host to several thousand Cascade riders. There are several key differences between the Point83 race, which we call the Fucking Hills Race, and the much more “family” Chilly Hilly ride. First, our event is a race, the Chilly Hilly is not. Second, our event usually costs about $7.00 plus the ferry ride ($7.70), and is used to defray the cost of making huge amounts of chili for the racers (which is my responsibility), while the Chilly Hilly usually costs about $25.00, which includes the ferry ride, and is a fundraiser for Cascade. Chilly Hilly riders have to buy their bowl of chili for about $6.00 at the end of their ride, which I suspect is also a fundraising device for Cascade. Third, our event has prizes donated from several well recognized names in the bike industry, or some other like-asshole-minded company who thinks we are a total riot, while the Chilly Hilly riders get memories, a ferry ride home, a mad dash to their cars to drive home, and the satisfaction of helping out Cascade. Forth, our event has booze from before you register, until you leave to go home from the bar we hit afterwards, while the Chilly Hilly riders do not have the same level of alcohol support, but instead offer a cider stop, rest stops, support vehicles, police assistance crossing the one highway on the island, portable bathrooms, and maps. I could list a few other differences, but this should be enough to give you an idea of what to expect no mater which group you opt to ride with, and why I ride with the one that I do.
This said, Point83 has several members who are also Cascade Bicycle Club members for assorted reasons, and nearly all of these “dual citizens” opt to pay for both events, which is where the wicket becomes sticky. You see, some, but certainly not all, Cascade members think that Point83 are huge jerks for having our race on the same day as their fundraiser. We regularly get accused of making use of the resources which Cascade provides for their members. While we are huge jerks, or as previously mentioned, assholes, it is not for this reason. In fact, we are also oddly respectful assholes in the context that we are all pretty accomplished cyclists, and a 34 mile ride is something we all feel pretty comfortable doing on open roads without anything other than the stuff we carry on our own person. To this end, Point83 has a really strong commitment to not use any of the resources offered be Cascade to the Chilly Hilly riders. After all, it’s Cascade’s fundraiser, and we are not trying to make them lose any money. And yet, there are a few who insist that is what we are doing. Additionally, we just like riding bikes with other people.
Anyway, this diagram is a representation of the membership of two clubs, and where they overlap member wise. Kind of a long rant to explain a Venn diagram, but somewhat required to fully comprehend. There are several amusing messageboard threads on this topic, should you want to read them.