First things to do: 1. Charge 2. Wait

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  • Dave Winer PRO 8y

    Maybe Nokia will let us help them tweak up one of these products so the out of box experience is in the ballpark of Apple's. There's no mystery in how to do it. You keep giving it to new people ask them where it didn't work, then fix whatever it was that made it not work. Repeat until everyone gets up in short order. The first most simple thing I'd do is ship it with a charged battery. And I'd make sure that when you order one overnight, you get it overnight. If this means that Nokia has to get into the shipping business, so be it.

    BTW, I have a sneaking suspicion from reading various discussion threads, that the problem is that I have 802.11n network in the house (in addition to A/B/G which is what I used to connect). I read that if you have a N network in range, the N800 just won't connect no matter what you do. Not sure.
  • Dave Winer PRO 8y

    What I really want to know is if there's an Apache running on the device. If so, can the camera drop pictures into the htdocs folder? Can I record a podcast? Will it drop the MP3 file into the htdocs folder?
  • Adam Curry PRO 8y

    The N800 is designed to be an open platform, all linux amd completely modifiable. There's quite a community around this device and its predecessor the 770 at I've been waiting for you to show up on this radar Dave. Also have a look at 'Canola' and the custom python based pyPodder app.
    The physical attributes of the N800 are pretty 'industrial', but the UI and functionality and development tools are a great package to build almost anything you can dream up.
  • Michael Levin PRO 8y

    An FTP server would be great on the N800
  • Adam Curry PRO 8y

    Anything you can get up and running on the linux platform is available to run on the N800, including custom httpd servers, ssh, shell, specialized window tool kits (hildon) and many scripting languages.
  • Ed Saipetch PRO 8y

    Nokia abandoned the development of software improvements for the Nokia 770. The software released for the 770 was pretty much beta quality for the first 9 months. I liked all the new functionality of the N800 but I refuse to buy something for ~$350 and watch it be abandoned. Much of this is discussed on Hope you have better luck with the N800 Dave.
  • bici 8y

    to me it has the look of an expensive paper weight.
  • dangillmor 8y

    I had no trouble getting on my home network with this, but it's not 802.11n.

    The N800 should be great, but it's surprisingly underwhelming. Maybe not so surprising, as Nokia still doesn't quite get software. A real shame given the fundamental openness of the product.

    Best example for me is my continuing inability to rip a TV show to it in a format that looks good. (I have it now in MP4 format on my Mac, via EyeTV hookup to TV.)

    Nokia would be very smart to locate the community that works on such things and create a pre-set for every kind of software (e.g. Handbrake, EyeTV etc.) that anyone could easily use.

    I did manage to load and watch a movie on the Nokia E90 on a plane the other week. Nice, but the screen on the N800 is better.
  • Evan Sims 8y

    Well, it's a sexy looking device. Not iTouch/iPhone sexy, but sexy in a non-Apple kind of way.
  • extraUNanonymous 8y

    Really good point Dave, I agree that having to charge something after you get it is equivalent to the "batteries not included" message I used to dread at Christmas time.

    I'm sure that Nokia has some excellent business reasons to not ship with a charged battery, I can only speculate that it has something to do with their established logistics processes. I mean, they ship 1.1 million phones a day, I imagine that charging them all would be quite a big change somewhere in the process.

    Anyway, the feedback is really good and I've at least done my small bit and pointed one of the product managers for N800 at this thread :-)



    (yes I work for Nokia, but not in the group responsible for that device)
  • Dave Winer PRO 8y

    Karl, thanks for posting, and good news -- I took the N800 to a local Internet cafe and it worked right away, so I think the problem is that I have an Airport Extreme at home (I wasn't trying to connect through it with the N800 though). So we know this unit works, but not at the place where I most want to use it.
  • extraUNanonymous 8y

    Mmm, apparently Dave the N800 ships with a charged battery (with at least half a charge in it). If that is the case then it's the getting started guide implies that getting started requires a full charge, right? If the getting started guide said

    1. Put the battery in
    2. Enjoy

    maybe that would have been a better experience?
  • Dave Winer PRO 8y

    Karl, yes, of course that would have been a better experience.

    To tell me to wait until the battery is fully charged before doing anything is shooting yourself in the foot. iPods ship with half a charge too, and they don't tell me to do that. Esp for a product like the N800 which clearly requires some understanding of how mobile devices work, I think you can trust the user to charge it up fully after playing with it for a few minutes.
  • Dave Winer PRO 8y

    Okay, this thread had the answer... I have it running with no security, but it works, with the settings tweaked as indicated in the thread. I will have to get it working with security, but for now, I am able to connect.
  • Dave Winer PRO 8y

    This comment was posted from the N800.
  • extraUNanonymous 8y

    Hey Dave, I just read what you were trying to do with podcasting and images on - that is a very cool idea IMHO. I tried to solicit some ideas on my blog a while ago as to what features a "social media phone" would have, generated some interesting discussion, but it sounds like the N800 might be a great platform to build it yourself:
  • Michael Levin PRO 8y


    At first, I loved the idea of a webserver on a N800 or a cellphone. I think it would be extremely useful in some situations. But, it would have limited storage, run the battery down and be intermittent in some areas with spotty coverage. Flicker has the email access to post photos, but FTP gives you the opportunity to ship that file out to a proper server.

    I'm voting for both, but given the choice, I'll vote for FTP.

    Michael Levin
  • Pete Prodoehl PRO 8y

    @mlevin77 By FTP I hope you mean SFTP. Although you should be able to do what is needed with HTTP...
  • Michael Levin PRO 8y

    @raster Interesting. Why do you suggest SFTP?
  • Pete Prodoehl PRO 8y

    @mlevin77 FTP is insecure, I'd recommend not using it anywhere as it sends your login info as plain text for anyone on the network to catch. SFTP is secure, and it's always better to be secure than insecure. :)
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