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    Hurricane Irene: Floodwaters covered the subway train storage yard at Coney Island. Photo by Metropolitan Transportation Authority / David Knights.

    jwr42001, superGecko2001, StarIzInkd, and 2 other people added this photo to their favorites.

    1. LinkinEarth 44 months ago | reply

      so .... we should not expect the subway to be working tomorrow .... yaaaay ... no work :D

    2. Yoyomama160th 44 months ago | reply

      This is bulls&$t!!

    3. NITRO215 44 months ago | reply

      Cry baby safety first

    4. techie155 44 months ago | reply

      Really, with the price of fares that we have, why aren't there proper drainage systems with permanent sump-pumps? MTA Subways is a bloated, monolithic beast that needs to be restructured. The original subway system took about 4 years to build....and that route went from City Hall all the way uptown; now it's taking over 4 years to build maybe a 1/4 of that distance and who knows how many times the ammount of money to build the 2nd ave subway.

      Also, what happened to those projects that were started in 2007/2008 after the flooding, where they started switching out the street vents and adding pumps, so that we could avoid disruptions?

      WASTE OF MONEY! Every MTA employee who is not operating equipment or providing DIRECT service to the public needs to get a 10% pay cut to cover the cost of improving service and reducing fares. Those employees that provide direct service to the public should also get raises, as they have to deal with the public's outrage at the bureaucracy's inefficiencies.

    5. h_burt 44 months ago | reply

      being that it's not raining anymore...i would think this is a problem a fairly normal sized water pump could solve...

    6. josimps 44 months ago | reply

      um, techie, safety standards didn't exist back then and there was significant loss of life when the original subway was built. and how do you expect to be able to adequately drain a subway yard that is located in the middle of a swamp?

    7. Bobbie Hurley 44 months ago | reply

      Every one stop your damn crying. My husband had to work 24 hrs at a station in Brooklyn, and had to sleep on the floor with his co-workers. They are still there and now clearing the outside tracks from fallen trees, etc. Without these hard working men you would have no subway system at all. Let them do what they have to do. Some of them don't even know if there is damage to their homes because they are stranded there. So SHUT UP!@!!@!

    8. amarknyc 44 months ago | reply

      Birdlady504b: Those who are complaining don't speak for the vast majority. No fooling: we truly appreciate the HUGE effort that your husband and a zillion other MTA workers are making right now to get the system back on-line.

    9. StarIzInkd 44 months ago | reply

      Hey Birdlady Mine too!!! No food or anything! They slept on tables. Wonder if our men were in the same place. Tough job. Too bad peopel have no clue what is going on behind the scenes

    10. myearhertz 44 months ago | reply

      This is quite possibly the greatest mobilization effort of man power, mechanical, and professional resources I've ever witnessed, MTA, Fire, Police, Guard, and Government overall. If only we could take these teams across the ocean, we could get our international mess wrapped up in a week!

      Can't wait for the price tag on this though. Sure its going to be a biggy.

    11. ri.kenji 44 months ago | reply

      You need to be better informed about the MTA's internals. I suggest heading over to

    12. katythepig 44 months ago | reply

      I wonder how much the subways were disrupted in 1938?

      I certainly do appreciate the MTA workers, and only wish the MTA appreciated them more....

    13. dgoldenbar 44 months ago | reply

      The problem isn't the workers - it's the way they are organized by the M.T.A., which is really pathetic. Management counts, and bad management will drag down any work force.

    14. superGecko2001 44 months ago | reply

      Shorter Techie:

      In my imaginary world, I can make the trains run on time. I don't have to know how things really work because this is my imaginary world, and I'm better than anyone else. In my imaginary world.

    15. dgoldenbar 44 months ago | reply


      Suggest that you take a trip to Switzerland, so you can see a train system that does, literally, run on time. I stood there with a watch and checked - the trains are exactly on time.

      L.I.R.R. declares that a 22 minute ride that is no more than 8 minutes late is "on time". I didn't make this up, read the L.I.R.R. documents if you don't believe it.

      The L.I.R.R. management is a disgrace.


    16. techie155 44 months ago | reply

      Super Gecko, Kathy, et al....
      I know the individual workers that service customers are great... However, I had a conversation with some friends in MTA management (they are leaving; since they can't stand the bureaucracy) and it was noted that there was a prevailing opinion amongst operation staff that LIRR and NYC subways should be kept running on severely reduced schedules to continually asses the track conditions. Also, the suggestion was put forth to deploy teams to 'known flooding locations' but that was deemed non-essential, instead they manned the fare booths and other locations with no service providing revenue. This was probably the worst management decision in decades.

    17. techie155 44 months ago | reply

      I doubt that anyone here would dispute the fact that, aside from possibly the 207th street yard, Coney Island Yard is the most important yard in the subway system. Yes, it is built on a swamp, a known flood location, shouldn't the management have had a plan in place to provide better drainage? I mean c'mon every hurricane that makes it's way up here has Coney Island as a target. We KNOW that the Rockaways and Coney Island are going to be hard hit...why isn't this facility built or retro-fitted for that?

    18. n.yah 44 months ago | reply

      Um, techie, the "original subway system built in 4 years"... didn't have proper drainage! That's one reason it was built so quickly: sloppiness!

      The stuff being built now does have proper drainage, but it's hard to retrofit it to ancient, quickly-built stuff!

      Retrofitting Coney Island Yard would be practically impossible given that the whole area's built on a sandbar. A giant elevated yard, perhaps? Very, very expensive.

    19. n1ywb_1 29 months ago | reply

      I have tickets to the December Coney Island tour; will that be affected?

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