Coney Island yard flood levels 003

Hurricane Irene: Floodwaters covered the subway train storage yard at Coney Island. Photo by Metropolitan Transportation Authority / David Knights.

  • LinkinEarth 4y

    so .... we should not expect the subway to be working tomorrow .... yaaaay ... no work :D
  • Yoyomama160th 4y

    This is bulls&$t!!
  • NITRO215 4y

    Yoyomama160th Cry baby safety first
  • techie155 4y

    Really, with the price of fares that we have, why aren't there proper drainage systems with permanent sump-pumps? MTA Subways is a bloated, monolithic beast that needs to be restructured. The original subway system took about 4 years to build....and that route went from City Hall all the way uptown; now it's taking over 4 years to build maybe a 1/4 of that distance and who knows how many times the ammount of money to build the 2nd ave subway.

    Also, what happened to those projects that were started in 2007/2008 after the flooding, where they started switching out the street vents and adding pumps, so that we could avoid disruptions?

    WASTE OF MONEY! Every MTA employee who is not operating equipment or providing DIRECT service to the public needs to get a 10% pay cut to cover the cost of improving service and reducing fares. Those employees that provide direct service to the public should also get raises, as they have to deal with the public's outrage at the bureaucracy's inefficiencies.
  • Heather Burt 4y

    being that it's not raining anymore...i would think this is a problem a fairly normal sized water pump could solve...
  • josimps 4y

    um, techie, safety standards didn't exist back then and there was significant loss of life when the original subway was built. and how do you expect to be able to adequately drain a subway yard that is located in the middle of a swamp?
  • Bobbie Hurley 4y

    Every one stop your damn crying. My husband had to work 24 hrs at a station in Brooklyn, and had to sleep on the floor with his co-workers. They are still there and now clearing the outside tracks from fallen trees, etc. Without these hard working men you would have no subway system at all. Let them do what they have to do. Some of them don't even know if there is damage to their homes because they are stranded there. So SHUT UP!@!!@!
  • amarknyc 4y

    Birdlady504b: Those who are complaining don't speak for the vast majority. No fooling: we truly appreciate the HUGE effort that your husband and a zillion other MTA workers are making right now to get the system back on-line.
  • Star 4y

    Hey Birdlady Mine too!!! No food or anything! They slept on tables. Wonder if our men were in the same place. Tough job. Too bad peopel have no clue what is going on behind the scenes
    :(
  • myearhertz 4y

    This is quite possibly the greatest mobilization effort of man power, mechanical, and professional resources I've ever witnessed, MTA, Fire, Police, Guard, and Government overall. If only we could take these teams across the ocean, we could get our international mess wrapped up in a week!

    Can't wait for the price tag on this though. Sure its going to be a biggy.
  • ri.kenji 4y

    techie155 You need to be better informed about the MTA's internals. I suggest heading over to secondavenuesagas.com/.
  • katythepig 4y

    I wonder how much the subways were disrupted in 1938?

    I certainly do appreciate the MTA workers, and only wish the MTA appreciated them more....
  • whatitlookslikeitis 4y

    I agree Kathy
  • dgoldenbar 4y

    The problem isn't the workers - it's the way they are organized by the M.T.A., which is really pathetic. Management counts, and bad management will drag down any work force.
  • superGecko2001 4y

    Shorter Techie:

    In my imaginary world, I can make the trains run on time. I don't have to know how things really work because this is my imaginary world, and I'm better than anyone else. In my imaginary world.
  • dgoldenbar 4y

    superGecko,

    Suggest that you take a trip to Switzerland, so you can see a train system that does, literally, run on time. I stood there with a watch and checked - the trains are exactly on time.

    L.I.R.R. declares that a 22 minute ride that is no more than 8 minutes late is "on time". I didn't make this up, read the L.I.R.R. documents if you don't believe it.

    The L.I.R.R. management is a disgrace.

    See:

    www.lirrcommuters.org/A55D10/home.nsf/79ac00a06b2683fa852...
  • techie155 4y

    Super Gecko, Kathy, et al....
    I know the individual workers that service customers are great... However, I had a conversation with some friends in MTA management (they are leaving; since they can't stand the bureaucracy) and it was noted that there was a prevailing opinion amongst operation staff that LIRR and NYC subways should be kept running on severely reduced schedules to continually asses the track conditions. Also, the suggestion was put forth to deploy teams to 'known flooding locations' but that was deemed non-essential, instead they manned the fare booths and other locations with no service providing revenue. This was probably the worst management decision in decades.
  • techie155 4y

    @sosimps,
    I doubt that anyone here would dispute the fact that, aside from possibly the 207th street yard, Coney Island Yard is the most important yard in the subway system. Yes, it is built on a swamp, a known flood location, shouldn't the management have had a plan in place to provide better drainage? I mean c'mon every hurricane that makes it's way up here has Coney Island as a target. We KNOW that the Rockaways and Coney Island are going to be hard hit...why isn't this facility built or retro-fitted for that?
  • n.yah 4y

    Um, techie, the "original subway system built in 4 years"... didn't have proper drainage! That's one reason it was built so quickly: sloppiness!

    The stuff being built now does have proper drainage, but it's hard to retrofit it to ancient, quickly-built stuff!

    Retrofitting Coney Island Yard would be practically impossible given that the whole area's built on a sandbar. A giant elevated yard, perhaps? Very, very expensive.
  • n1ywb_1 3y

    I have tickets to the December Coney Island tour; will that be affected?
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