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test TIF version -blond-long-haired-woman-surfmorrobay.com_0279_LZW-Compression

testing the lossless .TIF version of a photo - Note that while Flickr accepts TIF files, it converts them to JPGs - so there is no benefit of uploading TIF or TIFF files to try to preserve quality. I have a test version using PNG file format at for comparison.

I thought Flickr only took JPGs, but I see at that now lossless PNGs can be uploaded to Pro accounts. HOWEVER, note that all EXIF data is lost - so it is hardly worth the effort to save one's images as PNGs - if the image is not to be further manipulated, it seems that a final save-as JPG in the highest quality level (12 in CS3 RAW converter) is the best compromise for saving images at Flickr. I wish I could save my .PSD file here.


Several formatted versions of this photo (.TIF .PNG .JPG) are in a test set


This test TIF image is 7.95 MB(using lossless LZW compression (see below); no compression was 19MB and too big for Flickr) vs 2.9MB for the highest-quality JPG version shown at (for a factor of about 2X increased space).


PNG defined at


Blond long-haired young lady woman watching the surfers at Morro Rock, Morro Bay, CA, Morro Strand State Beach taken from the parking lot, Sat. Nov. 03 2007 03nov2007 Photo by Mike Baird, Canon 1D Mark III w/ 600mm IS lens w/ 1.4X II tele-extender for 840mm, or tripod with gimbal head -


More info on using PNGs vs JPGs Vs TIFFs says in part (see link for full details):

Comparison with TIFF


TIFF is a complicated format that incorporates an extremely wide range of options. While this makes TIFF useful as a generic format for interchange between professional image editing applications, it makes adding support for it to applications a much bigger task and so it has little support in applications not concerned with image manipulation (such as web browsers). It also means that many applications can read only a subset of TIFF types, creating more potential user confusion.


The most common general-purpose, lossless compression algorithm used with TIFF is LZW, which is inferior to PNG and, until expiration in 2003, suffered from the same patent issues that GIF did. There is a TIFF variant that uses the same compression algorithm as PNG uses, but it is not supported by many proprietary programs. TIFF also offers special-purpose lossless compression algorithms like CCITT Group IV, which can compress bilevel images (e.g., faxes or black-and-white text) better than PNG's compression algorithm.

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Uploaded on November 6, 2007