This Was Today? (100)

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    23.09.2007

    Today should be a happy day, number 100 in my 365 days set. But it all turned out so different. Flickr decided out of the blue that smoking children can't be photographed. Ofcourse Flickr can show hardcore porn, violence and poverty .... but smoking, ofcourse not!

    I got this e-mail yesterday:

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    case354736@support.flickr.com

    Hi Maarten Dors,

    Images of children under the age of 18 who are smoking
    tobacco is prohibited across all of Yahoo's properties.
    I've gone ahead and deleted the image "The Romanian Way"
    from your photostream.
    We appreciate your understanding.

    -Terrence
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    They appreciate my understanding? Wich understanding? I just want my photo back!
    It was my most interesting photo and has been on Flickr for almost two months. Why delete it all of a sudden. I didn't upload it because I thought it was a pretty sight to see a small boy smoking. I uploaded it because I wanted to tell something. I wanted to show the world how living in poverty can be, what it does with small children and wanted to start a discussion about it (and they deleted that very good discussion too!).

    Ofcourse Flickr doesn't mind children doing drugs, because the photos I took of small children inhaling glue are still there. Is that the Flickr message ... Smoking is very bad, but hey .. you can always use drugs!

    Tommorrow about this time I will decide if I will continue posting on Flickr.

    ukv1290, davy boy2011, and Fraika added this photo to their favorites.

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    1. jakerome 78 months ago | reply

      So for some reason, this picture doesn't show up in searches.
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      Found in a search. (?)

    2. ​eyebex 78 months ago | reply

      "Removed from public search, it seems...that's not nice."

      by flickr?

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    3. jakerome 78 months ago | reply

      Well, one possibility is that Flickr removed it from public search. Or Maarten may have removed it himself. gocarrt has is really on Flickr's trail today. And maybe somebody flagged it as a screenshot or moderate, and it was removed from public search.

      I asked that question because I wanted to know if Maarten knows the answer.

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    4. jakerome 78 months ago | reply

      While you're at it, you may want to see who added the Caterina Fake take. It's more than 30 days old, so try this, flickr.com/recent_activity.gne?days=60

    5. jakerome 78 months ago | reply

      Or try days=90. That should help.

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    6. Maarten Dors 78 months ago | reply

      I have noticed it doesn't shows up on public searches, it doesn't show on my bighugelab either! No idea why that is?

    7. jakerome 78 months ago | reply

      I don't know. Sometimes Flickr flags images to not appear in searches for one reason or another. You may try contacting help to see why. Did you figure out who added the Caterina Fake tag?

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    8. Tway76 76 months ago | reply

      This ridiculous censorship,or should I say IGNORANCE pisses me off. How naive and shortsighted can you be as an 'admin'. Rally sorry the've deleted the discussion. Nothing to add to all of the above.
      For what it's worth, the fact that you've experienced this situation and are here at it again really shows you and the photo have got something to tell. Not just a picture. a story.
      Keep at it.

      niet te geloven zeg.....

    9. malavoda 76 months ago | reply

      Ridiculous censorship. I agree completely with you. Seems to be an American tradition to allow everything (violence, porn, blood, death people...) but NO SMOKING please...

      This photo is your personal jinx - I've also read the thing with the lost original... Stay tuned anyway.

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    10. malavoda 76 months ago | reply

      Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Beauty Selection (Invite Only), and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.

    11. malavoda 76 months ago | reply

      Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Flickr Envy (invited images only), and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.

    12. malavoda 76 months ago | reply

      Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Self -help group for flickr addicts, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.

    13. flickrolf 76 months ago | reply

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    14. malavoda 76 months ago | reply

      Final prove, that is completely ridiculous to censor this photo - look at the Kid with gun

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    15. malavoda 76 months ago | reply

      Hi - I did a collection of my fav's of favorites and used your picture with a reference to you back on the 1st comment of my photo
      Mind Bomb - Freedom

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    16. Airships 75 months ago | reply

      One of the great things about photography, throughout its history, has been its ability to show us the world as it really is. Some of these images are ugly and unpleasant: a naked girl, burned by napalm, running down a road in Vietnam; civil rights protesters, set upon by police dogs; emaciated corpses, lying in piles at Auschwitz. None of those images are pleasant. And neither is it "pleasant' to see a young boy with a cigarette. But Art is not always about being pleasant. And would we really make the world a safer place by pretending that none of those things ever happened?

    17. jakerome 70 months ago | reply

      Did you see this story in the AP? It's in part about your experience with this photo.

      news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080706/ap_on_hi_te/tec_disappearing...

    18. phoneyman [deleted] 70 months ago | reply

    19. derdiedasdada 57 months ago | reply

      Fuck censorship!

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