[Pont Napoléon, Nice, France (Riviera)] (LOC)

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    [Pont Napoléon, Nice, France (Riviera)]

    [between ca. 1890 and ca. 1900].

    1 photomechanical print : photochrom, color.

    "1072" stamped on the back of the print.
    Title from identifying information provided by the Flickr Commons project, 2009. (Print not listed in the Detroit Publishing Company, Catalogue J, 1905.)
    Forms part of: Nineteenth century travel views of Europe in the Photochrom print collection.

    Format: Photochrom prints--Color--1890-1900.

    Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication.

    Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print

    Part Of: Nineteenth century travel views of Europe (DLC) 2002707970

    More information about the Photochrom Print Collection is available athdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.pgz

    Persistent URL: hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsc.09981

    Call Number: LOT 13512, no. 09 [item]

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    1. Gryphlets 103 months ago | reply

      Looking at the link that croche provided, the one picture is nearly exactly the same. The only difference is there is a dock built and the Mexican flag on the one building. So my question, because I am curious, is WHY is there a Mexican Flag there? The only consulate I can find is in Paris, not Nice. Did it by any chance move to Nice at some point?

    2. Kevin 103 months ago | reply

      That isn't a Mexican flag. Go to the persistent URL in the description, click through the image, and examine the high resolution TIF file. (It's 29mb, the detail is there.) There's no eagle in the center. Color of photocroms is influenced by the process of the technician who created it. In the close up detail of the flag, you can even see some color separation, similar to what you would see in a 3D image, and at the very edges of the left of the tricolor, is blue, and some greenish yellow superimposed over it. This is a French flag.


    3. Gryphlets 103 months ago | reply

      Cool! Didn't know that about the photocroms. Learn something new everyday and maybe this will end the "dispute" of whether this is Nice or not LOL. Also found out that it couldn't have been an Italian flag as it's current flag design didn't come about until 1946 (just a side note to answer some who thought it was an Italian flag).

    4. morus1516 103 months ago | reply

      The pier no longer exists, but this is almost certainly taken from about 10-yards west of the the point at which Promenade des Anglais (now tripartite) meets Quai des Etats-Unis.

      See the Statue in this version: www.corbisimages.com:80/Enlargement/Enlargement.aspx?id=4...

      And compare to Google Maps view of the same statue (it's not far from the Hotel Meridian, on the pedestrianised circle) - also look West to match the slope of the land mass into the sea.

      My guess for the closest address for where the photo was probably taken from would be about 109 Quia des Etats-Unis, 06300, Nice France

    5. cooperative shape [deleted] 103 months ago | reply

      It's the beach at the bottom of the Promonade des Anglais. The wall next the bridge is still there, it just looks different now.
      I used to spend allot of time at this exact spot during the 90's, drinking with friends.... *reminisces*
      Great times

      Fly to this location using FlickrFly (Requires Google Earth)

    6. jovegaphotography.com 103 months ago | reply

      I see the italian flag.

    7. seemly porter [deleted] 103 months ago | reply

      um just look at the flag.

    8. Gryphlets 103 months ago | reply

      To those that THINK the flag is from Italy.....first, look at my last comment......Italy did not get those colors until 1946....this photo was done between 1890-1900 so it cannot possibly be the Italian flag that everyone is used to seeing today. Then read Kevin's post concerning the flag and the type of photography. It is the French flag, just the type of photography make the colors wrong.

    9. cumbersome coat [deleted] 103 months ago | reply

      It seems many folk commenting here can't or won't read previous comments
      As points out, the flag is French, and, as others and myself have pointed out, there is no doubt this is Nice.
      Try reading comments before posting.

    10. knowing edge [deleted] 103 months ago | reply

      If it is not Nice, it may be Frejus seen from St-Raphael ; there is an old bridge there like the one pictured. Both latter cities are also on the French Riviera.


      Beaches in Nice are not made out of sand but of "galets" (small roundish stones), somehow I would then say it is Nice but the only 2 bridges on the seashore do not seem to match.

      Last hint: in France, only 2 categories of buildings wear high the French flag: official buildings and most hotels. I first thought of the Negresco hotel (in Nice) but it has a dome on its front side. But the hotel was built in 1912...

      What still makes me doubt it is Nice (or Frejus) is the stone construction; why would they had to remove it?

    11. Gryphlets 103 months ago | reply

      Couple potential answers to Alex HHHH2o's question on the stone construction and why it seems to be gone. I don't know what is there now, but if it IS gone completely.....3 potential things could have happened - destruction during World War 2 when the Italians occupied Nice OR destruction during the tsunami in 1979. Just looking at the history of Nice to see if there was anything to account for it. Else, could have been a bad design and therefore had to be taken down OR just general expansion and the need to reconstruct the area.

    12. cukier 103 months ago | reply

      As others have pointed out, it looks like Nice. To be a bit more specific, it looks very much like a view of "La Croisette" from the east side of the city.

    13. trialsanderrors 103 months ago | reply

      1073 P.Z. Boulevard du Midi, Nice, France. Same bridge, opposite view:
      Pont Napoléon & Boulevard du Midi, Nice, France, ca. 1889

    14. zyrcster 103 months ago | reply

      Hey there trialanderrors,

      Now that's good detective work! According to the LOC page, that is Print no. "1073" and the description of the photo up above says, ""1072" stamped on the back of the print." Looks like the LOC had the answer all along! :-D

    15. The Library of Congress 103 months ago | reply

      Many thanks for the firm visual confirmation from several old photos! Also, appreciation for explaining the limitations of photochrom color techniques, which can make such usually reliable clues like a flag deceptive.
      Trialsanderrors has definitely found a different kind of good clue in the neighboring number patterns. We were overly reliant on the prints listed in the Detroit Publishing Co. sales catalog for 1905, and this print isn't included there.

    16. Lú_ 103 months ago | reply

      This photograph is featured in the Indicommons.org post ID Success Stories from the Library of Congress.

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    17. TinTrunk 103 months ago | reply

      Hi, I'm an admin for a group called The Astonishing Power of Flickr, which was created to celebrate discoveries made about photographs posted on Flickr, and we'd love to have this added to the group!

      It was very interesting to follow the debate through the comments here!

    18. fotoviva 69 months ago | reply

      Wow that's an old photograph!

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