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Bain News Service,, publisher.

Sir Genille Cave Brown Cave

1911 April 29 (date created or published later by Bain)

1 negative : glass ; 5 x 7 in. or smaller.

Title and date from data provided by the Bain News Service on the negative.
Photo shows cowboy and bartender Sir Genille Cave-Brown-Cave, 12th Baronet (1869-1929). (Source: Flickr Commons project, 2009)
Forms part of: George Grantham Bain Collection (Library of Congress).

Format: Glass negatives.

Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication.

Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print

General information about the Bain Collection is available at hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.ggbain

Higher resolution image is available (Persistent URL): hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.09144

Call Number: LC-B2- 2191-6

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  1. cyclopscam 76 months ago | reply

    Not a mule . mules in general have much longer ears

  2. Tracy2912 [deleted] 76 months ago | reply

    Tex Ritter. The singing Cowboy

  3. Nancymesaaz~ 75 months ago | reply

    Tex Ritter wasn't born then

  4. karahaz 75 months ago | reply

    Who gives one ? It is a bloody gorgeous photo. Thank you to the Library of Congress.

  5. lynbird.83 75 months ago | reply

    That's a horse, of course.

  6. fredshome 74 months ago | reply

    That's not a mule. Mules cannot levitate.

  7. rocketrobyn 73 months ago | reply

    Is that a really big horse, or a really little man?

  8. Peggy Archer 67 months ago | reply

    That's a horse with an rather straight shoulder. That animal's trot must have been like a jackhammer.

  9. Kilted Cowboy 63 months ago | reply

    Mammoth simply refers to height, all mules have large ears as they are sterile and not bred from mules, but the result of a horse and donkey, there is no way to breed small eared mules, not ones that look like horse ears. (therefore no mule breeds go "extinct" either, only horses). The size is also a giveaway. A mammoth mule might be this big, but would still be a draft animal, not normally used for riding. The thin mane and tail, large head and shading suggest this horse could be related to Appaloosas. He Started riding out west (see article) and that makes sense with this type of horse as well

    the gentleman appears to have lived a colorful life. This article years later states he was in the Spanish American war , a preacher, rode in the "Wild West Show" and many other wonderful tidbits, later on he will the the Reverend Cave Brown Cave and write a book called From Cowboy to Pulpit.


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  11. Kilted Cowboy 62 months ago | reply

    My comment was written for my own observation on the photo, there is no need to attack me. I do know my donkeys and mules and stand by my comments. I do not say a donkey was a mule. And yes, on rare occasions a mule will not be sterile but if you think they were used for actual commercial breeding please provide proof. Since 1527 there have been just over 60 documented cases of foals born to female mules around the world. There are no recorded cases of fertile mule stallions. Non sterile offspring are extremely rare because donkeys have 62 chromosomes, and horses have 64. As for mammoth, I was strictly referring to mules. As far as extinct goes, species go extinct, mules are the species E. caballus x E. asinus, that species is not extinct. There may be variations that can no longer be bred because of certain types of horses or asses no longer exist but that is not the same thing as extinct in the conventional use I was employed. I also did not miss, and do not think it appropriate in this forum that you imply a personal attack on me. That was rather rude. However since your profile lists self absorption as your hobby I cannot be surprised.

    And yes Shijirltf, I agree totally with you.

  12. Kilted Cowboy 62 months ago | reply

    So why is it you can explain yourself and you are the one being attacked, but when I support my input am attacking? I'm not the one who said "know your ass".

    Again, I don't feel the generous LOC forum is the appropriate forum for this behavior therefore I am done with you.

  13. Kristi (LOC P&P) 61 months ago | reply

    Richard Arthur Norton and nudecowboy: Thank you for the additional information on the very interesting Sir Cave-Browne-Cave! We will update the source record to reflect these details.

  14. Kilted Cowboy 61 months ago | reply

    you're very welcome!

  15. Mando Maniac 58 months ago | reply

    Hi, I'm an admin for a group called ANYTHING GOES ENGLAND,VINTAGE PHOTOS,POSTCARDS,EPHEMERAetc..., and we'd love to have this added to the group!

  16. ihatefog 57 months ago | reply

    A beautiful., old-timey type working horse. This is a great portrait of a time gone by, back when there were no ATV's to chase cows with...

  17. BobMeade 56 months ago | reply

    The book by The Reverend Sir Genille Cave-Brown-Cave depicted above by nudecowboy is also in the Library of Congress:


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