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james turrell - roden crater

we finally found it. took 2 years and its in our home state. but its not public yet. it is absolutely breathtaking - a whole mountain/crater turned participatory art

  • Rojpix 7y

    interesting rave... one day... I will make it
  • Rojpix 7y

    Artist's Statement





    Light is the basis of all life. Photography is described as light writing. Hence it becomes the written language of light. The light etched image of itself, the new hieroglyphics, the story teller of now for the future, the history of life. It is good to be an interpreter in that history.


    Roger Skinner
  • lhymbo 7y

    my name is jimbo. i AM the guardian of roden crater. i live here,this place is under 24 hour security .i just want to let everyone know that i am here to protect the artists wishes. to keep this place from being exposed before it is ready for all to expierience. it is important that all of you respect this dream. please don`t try to steal it , you grid city boys treated this place like a play ground . i had go up and rake out the scars you boys left on the face of roden crater. i don`t understand how thats cool. can you imagine what this place would be like if all the people you are trying to encourage to tresspass out here respected this place as much as you grid city boys did. thats why i`m here! to protect this place from that LACK of respect Soooo i want to let people know that i am here 24/7 i have 360 degree visibility from the top .please do not attempt to sneek in, you will be tresspassing on private property HELLO its against the LAW i WILL STOP you , if i don,t my dog JAKE will, you will have come a long way for nothing! and be hasseled by ME! i reccomend going through proper channels call the office SKYSTONE FOUNDATION @ 928 226 0837 or Email skystone@infomagic.net the office is working on a webpage that should be up soon and should answer most questions i want to thank you fomer tresspassers for making my job nessary PEACEOUT
  • andy 7y

    it had never dawned on me until these latest comments that we should never have done what we did. worst really... was sliding down the outside of the cone. i'm so sorry. i had no idea that by doing so... and yet, i see it now... we left marks... changing one color that was there before with the color underneath... and it all goes in layers... and to know that someone had to rake that back into proper cinder cone color-ness... pretty much makes me feel HORRIBLE. it just had never crossed my mind. and for that ... really... for someone who would never vandalize anything... and believes in leaving a small footprint on this earth and wants to encourage responsibility to wards others... and tells all her friends about the ethos of 'leave it better than you found it' and here... we clearly... left it messy and obvious that adventurers had been about and hadn't been invisible or clean... or really very responsible at all to something that DESERVES it, as much as all things do... but more... due to what it IS exactly that turrell is trying to facilitate.
    i'm sorry. and for those of you thinking about going... i think the message is clear. go only through the proper channels. and if they aren't in place yet. wait.
  • Ben Lepley 7y

    @ Ihymbo-> Thanks for the info. Some people would kill for your job. Anyways I think we can all be thankful that 'Grid City' was not a high-desert dirt biker looking for some hills to do tricks and donuts on. or a crew of drunk paintball'ers looking for fun.
  • shame2009 6y

    Im with you jimbo. It is a shame that people like that feel the need to break the f'ing rules. Shame on them and anyone else who tries to break the law. Although with a public profile with roden crater pics. They incriminate themselves publicly.
  • andy 6y

    howdy there.... guess what? we weren't trespassing. we were guests of the closest neighbors. and they had permission from james turrell. i have said here before that we were 'sneaking in' or what-have-you and now remember clearly that it wasn't like that at all.... that was simply the feeling of being there when noone else was. we were absolutely not trespassing. thank you and enjoy your moral high ground :) i have apologized here for the fact that we chose to walk down the crater... but please.... i mean.... seriously.... animals roam around this area too.... at some point.... it makes no sense to hold a project so dearly that you lose the notion of nature as a whole... nature = wild. and we like it like that. i regret that i didn't think of it that day.... DO NOT HIKE DOWN THE SIDE. but ..... are our steps still visible? or even visible that day? no. it was our feet. in the rocks. and we absolutely held the work he has created as a whole in veneration. i forgive us for hiking down the side. i would hope James Turrell would too. and i hope that his relationship with Mark and Kate is still on wonderful terms. they, as his neighbors.... have, i am sure, had a very new quality to their way of life happen and having met them... i can say.... James Turrell has good neighbors in THEM... who THEY are.... i just really need to clear this up... we were not trespassing, breaking rules or treating anything that WE RECOGNIZE as wonderful, genius, brilliant, amazingness.... with any kind of disrespect.

    shame on those who DO. ok.
  • brendanturrell015 6y

    How did you people get these photographs of my father's crater? I generally know the people going there that are actually allowed. Either way i hope it was absolutely captivating as i am sure it was
  • Tiago Almeida 6y

    Saw it yesterday in Sculpture Diaries :D

    Hope it opens meanwhile!
  • badasspotato 5y

    James Turrell sounds like an elitist douche bag.
  • Ben Lepley 5y

    badasspotato why, because its not open yet? i'm sure he will open it to the public when its finished. Thats just how architecture is, its a slow process, and who knows how good the funding is on this project.
  • Kate Sorensen 5y

    I, the aforementioned Kate Sorensen, just now found this while looking to see if there are any leftovers from the past still online. I look at Roden Crater every day but haven't been there for 4 (or 5 now?) years, since they told us to stop visiting and posted the security guard. It's an enormous and magnificent project and the wishes of the artist deserve to be honored-- even if it's a little hard to wait for 20 years!
    Nobody pesters us to get in any more. Every once in awhile a visitor, usually from across the Atlantic or Pacific, finds their way out here and we just tell them it's not open. Jimbo, we respect you and know you'll do your job. If the scars you had to rake out were from the 6 of us around May 10, 2005, I apologize. Sliding in cinders and picking them out of my shoes isn't my idea of fun so personally I came down pretty carefully-- but yeah it's a steep slope.

    Roden Crater has always been a sacred site to us. For many previous years our family and friends were welcomed at the crater, given the combination to the lock, taken on a tour with our Hawaiian and Navajo friends, invited to a memorable party with a sushi bar and live C&W band, etc. I miss those good ol' days! We had the nearest phone and sometimes helped the Project's friends in need out here in the desert-- remember the DeConcini Lincoln breakdown? We want to be good neighbors and I hope you know the kind of people we are (thanks, Grid City for the character reference). Although I know we stretched the limits in visiting, I always did my best to make sure we left no trace on our annual pilgrimages. I wouldn't have shared one of the most awesome man-made sites on Earth with just anybody-- only with friends who could appreciate the dedication and magnitude and beauty. Or at least attempt to appreciate it, I'm sure I grasp only part of this myself after watching all these years.

    I appreciate the Grid City write-up of our magical visit. They were our guests that day, and any blame belongs to us, not them. While I'm sorry for any perceived disrespect of this incredible work of art or the people involved, I'm grateful for the synchronicity that allowed a better-than-dream to come true. We long for the day that other people will enjoy the magic after James Turrell and the team's 30+ years of work. And we're deeply thankful to have had the visits we did, authorized or not. They made our life out here transcendent, in a neighborhood of cows, trailers, and meth labs. (and thanks to the Crater people for keeping the viewscape clear of trailers and trash. We can appreciate the cows.)

    I have some dramatic photos of the crater taken over the years in case anyone (Skystone?) would like them.

    A final word for any would-be trespassers: in addition to the respect issue it's true that you will be caught if you approach the crater. Our nephew was taking a walk from our house miles away and got stopped, nicely but no nonsense. Jimbo has sharp eyes and there's not a single tree out here.
  • copyright enforced 4y

    I just found this Flickr account and would like my input to be read by anyone wanting to show up uninvited. The reason should be clear just from the above comments. I was lucky enough to visit the site long before any physical construction was done in the cone. I had a valid purpose for visiting. I had the blessing of the artist. I do not remember the year.

    For the sake of everyone involved, including the neighbors, the security person, the artist and everyone who has spent time and effort to further this project, please wait until it is open and make sure you respect, and accept the admission rules. This will be an amazing gift for many generations. It will not be like opening day at Sky Walk. It may take some time before the average person, like myself can view it. From the outset Mr. Turrell has stated each group to visit will be small.

    Believe me when I say, as anxious as I am to return, I would never consider going there until it is time, and I am in compliance with whoever will make those decisions.

    Jimbo, I hope you are there when the project opens for the public. I would like to meet you, and I am really happy to find out that you are there now. Mr. Turrell suggested and hinted, how I could watch the shadow of the earth being cast on the sky. You must have seen so many amazing events play out there.
  • mollusk222 4y

    WOW... poor Turrel, a genius amongst heathens. THis is better than reality T.V.
  • RobBasile 3y

    brendanturrell015
    Dearest Brandon Turrell;

    I respectfully (or you may say "disrespectfully) take issue with your query (7 posts above this one): "How did you people get these photographs of my father's crater? I generally know the people going there that are actually allowed. Either way i hope it was absolutely captivating as i am sure it was."

    Who CARES how these people got to see "YOUR" father's crater?? First; NOBODY "owns" Roden crater nor do they own any PART nor "parcel" of the Arizona desert! The native Americans and wildlife who originally occupied those lands are the sole beings who may legitimately claim the right--and even they will be first to tell you, they cede that right to higher powers. You can no more lay claim to the lands of Gods than you can their moon or stars. And just because your father raised the funds to usurp the crater, doesn't give him the right to desecrate it. You and your father are no different from the greedy Capitalist PIG$ and their lobbyist henchmen who've turned America into a land and resource grab. And another problem with "your" crater is the manner in which you hoard it, only allowing tiny elitist art snob groups to visit the site--which, again, you don't even legitimately own. Perhaps you should transport the entire crater to New York, where you can name it "Studio 54 Gallery" and then post a hipster doorman who can decide who and who may not visit--based upon their requisite black jacket and turtleneck art gallery attire. And, ironically, I say all this when Mr. Turrell is one of my favorite artists--right behind Rothko, Viola, and Kienholz! But NObody is worthy of God status or God privilege--not me, nor you, nor any other mortal. That, my friend, is the exclusive realm of the TRUE creator(s) whose art far surpasses that of any earthbound artist. Acquiesce...Peace...
  • TEWZ ONE 3y

    Hello, I am an artist living and working in Chicago. A recent graduate of SAIC, and a featured artist on Bravo T.V. ... I called the number for the SKYSTONE FOUNDATION @ 928 226 0837 to try to "go through the proper channels"

    Dialing ... me: "Hello! is this skystone!?" ....
    click.

    hung up in my face.
  • a1911handler 3y

    TEWZ ONE Awesomesauce. I'm headed out there with my gps and 4wd
  • leave it better... 3y

    TEWZ ONE

    Hi TEWZ,
    Just want to mention that you had the phone number wrong :(
    According to Google - Skystone Foundation it's 928-226-0937
    I didn't try it tho. Good luck.
  • RobBasile 1y

    Dearest Brandon Turrell;

    I respectfully (or you may say "disrespectfully) take issue with your query (7 posts above this one): "How did you people get these photographs of my father's crater? I generally know the people going there that are actually allowed. Either way i hope it was absolutely captivating as i am sure it was."

    Who CARES how these people got to see "YOUR" father's crater?? First; NOBODY "owns" Roden crater nor do they own any PART nor "parcel" of the Arizona desert! The native Americans and wildlife who originally occupied those lands are the sole beings who may legitimately claim the right--and even they will be first to tell you, they cede that right to higher powers. You can no more lay claim to the lands of Gods than you can their moon or stars. And just because your father raised the funds to usurp the crater, doesn't give him the right to desecrate it. You and your father are no different from the greedy Capitalist PIG$ and their lobbyist henchmen who've turned America into a land and resource grab. And another problem with "your" crater is the manner in which you hoard it, only allowing tiny elitist art snob groups to visit the site--which, again, you don't even legitimately own. Perhaps you should transport the entire crater to New York, where you can name it "Studio 54 Gallery" and then post a hipster doorman who can decide who and who may not visit--based upon their requisite black jacket and turtleneck art gallery attire. And, ironically, I say all this when Mr. Turrell is one of my favorite artists--right behind Rothko, Viola, and Kienholz! But NObody is worthy of God status or God privilege--not me, nor you, nor any other mortal. That, my friend, is the exclusive realm of the TRUE creator(s) whose art far surpasses that of any earthbound artist. Acquiesce...Peace...
  • Rojpix 1y

    well I have come and gone to the state indeed the entire country (NYC to Seattle Via Ligonier, Akron, Seatonville, Chicago, St Louis, Nashville, Tupelo, New Orleans, Paris, Amarillo, Denver, Moab, Kayenta, Bryce Canyon, Grand Canyon, Bakersfield, Cambria, San Francisco, Ft Bragg, Gold Beach and Seattle) Canada as well... did not even look for the place, so Jimbo, another quiet day
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