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21010 Robie House - Front Building

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  1. eclipseGrafx 64 months ago | reply

    I wonder if I should start collecting this series

  2. ~legoboy2010~ 64 months ago | reply

    Victor Fernandez I would recommend that you do start collecting the series.

  3. Johŋ 64 months ago | reply

    Well that looks like a boring set.

  4. <Antimatter> 64 months ago | reply

    My mom's shop put in a pre-order today for these. I will have to pick one up, it looks great!

  5. TheMasterOfDeath [deleted] 64 months ago | reply

    Johŋ Maybe boring, but great as art. I love this... but I don't think I will love the price...

  6. Johŋ 64 months ago | reply

    TheMasterOfDeath Oh yes, I agree it's wonderful architecture, I just think the set will be overpriced (I think it's ~$200), boring to build and full of boring pieces.

  7. Duq 64 months ago | reply

    Nice set, ridiculous price. Once mr Reed Tucker discovers Europe I might get interested in the series...

  8. Kris_Kelvin 64 months ago | reply

    It`s simply fantastic set.

  9. -B-D- 64 months ago | reply

    I read about this house in the book The Wright 3 , and it's amazing to see it as an actuall set!

  10. aldisley 64 months ago | reply

    This is pretty much a rip-off of GW Scholbrock The Brick Scho's Robie House:
    Robie House - Southwest view, even down to the modified roof pieces. In fact in many ways that one is better than this (e.g. middle floor windows) and if the builder of that Robie House hasn't been involved in the official LEGO one, it looks rather like plagiarism to me.

    The plate=brick thing only really works at a scale like Chris Eyerly ie10421 built his masterpiece: robie-front3
    That one also uses 1x4 plates rather nicely to get the more linear feel - 1x2s feel too much like UK standard bricks, whereas FLW used much slimmer bricks and also different coloured mortar to emphasise the horizontal joints but not the vertical. Later repointing has changed this a bit but the brickwork in the official LEGO one doesn't really capture the feel of the original.

  11. fbtb 63 months ago | reply

    aldisley how is it a rip off exactly? they're both based on a building. some similarities are going to occur coincdentally.

  12. TheMasterOfDeath [deleted] 63 months ago | reply

    Johŋ Yea, indeed, it's the sort of thing you want when you're very rich lol

  13. aldisley 63 months ago | reply

    From Bricks To Bothans I agree that some similarities are inevitable. But exactly the same techniques for the walls, roof, ridge tiles, roof chimney etc... I'm in education and my plagiarism sensors are highly trained. If a student handed that in as original work, we would term it at the milder end of plagiarism unless it referenced the original. It's not a slavish copy but is inappropriately similar in too many ways, and in the real world it doesn't matter if it was truly independently conceived - part of developing a product etc. is to check you're not reinventing the wheel, and get permission where someone else got there first.

  14. fbtb 63 months ago | reply

    this is not the same as plagiarizing a term paper. the english language is vast and the construction of a paper, a paragraph, a sentence has a near infinite amount of combinations. with lego, the parts library may seem large, but once you narrow down the scale at which to build, your available parts pool gets smaller and smaller. there's only so many number of non-modified 1xn plates, 1xn bricks, tiles, slopes to work with. if a certain building method used to achieve a certain look happens to be used by another afol, i really think it's coincidental. i think builders these days are way too sensitive in thinking that whatever technique they come up with is wholly unique. i'm willing to give mr. tucker the benefit of the doubt in this case. unless he comes forward and says otherwise, i honestly think it's coincidental.

  15. aldisley 63 months ago | reply

    Ah, you leap to the conclusion that I'm talking about literary plagiarism. I teach music technology, and my expertise in plagiarism is far more akin to the limited palette of LEGO than the printed word - and we have plagiarism software for written assignments anyway, so I don't need to worry about detecting them. I'm used to attempting to identify plagiarism in audio works, from unauthorised sampling to compositional techniques, but also and most pertinently, music software writing. Here there is a much smaller pool of possible ways of doing something in a given programming environment, and when the same task is set, there are only a small number of different ways of doing something. Identifying the difference in this context between two independent attempts at the same problem versus a copied but modified attempt is therefore something I have unfortunately had to become very good at.

    Nonetheless, if we take your point as coincidence, the other important factor in all walks of life, be they commercial or educational, is avoiding unintentional duplication of earlier work by someone else. See the numerous patent wars for example. Mr Tucker's duplication may well be unintentional, but as he has developed a commercial product, he ought to have at least checked out other attempts and contacted those earlier ones that were very similar. LEGO is lucky that the duplications are with AFOL's work rather than a more litigious commercial entity.

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