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  • br3ndan_sullivan 7y

    Publishers are critical members of the journal publishing communities!
  • Dave Gray PRO 7y

    I was wondering if/when you would weigh in on this!

    I think the argument needs to be heard and would love to hear a good explanation of the value that the publishers provide. I would like very much to get some balance into the story. Can you help me?
  • br3ndan_sullivan 7y

    We have an ok defense. I'll look it up and get back to you:-)
  • Isabel Walcott Hilborn 6y

    still waiting for that defense.
  • br3ndan_sullivan 6y

    We provide editorial services, peer reviews, the software platforms required to facilitate reviewing and publishing and, of course, publishing. Most scientific publications require rigorous review, and to provide for that, publishers need to be part of the communities which they serve. It's easy to understand how it might seem like we're skimming off of a public asset, but there is an important, and necessary, value added service that publishers provide before, during and after articles are published.
  • Dave Gray PRO 6y

    Thank you Brendan for this thoughtful and well-considered response. It might carry more weight if your Flickr icon didn't look so corporately menacing.

    Is there a kinder gentler icon that might help gently persuade as well as inform us? :)
  • laalgadger 6y

    br3ndan - The issue is that the public have paid for this research and yet the public cannot access it. What are you going to do about that?

    Or does that fall into the "not our problem" basket?
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