You Are A Mean One, Mr. Jobs

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    Apple needs to feel more pressure from nonprofits, charities and public media on this topic. They don't feel the heat right now, and even if they seem impervious it's worth mounting a serious effort.

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    1. sgw1974 94 months ago | reply

      cant stand that man you got my vote!

    2. joeldm 94 months ago | reply

      I'm curious. It seems like a web app would be the perfect solution for non-profits. They are easier to create than actual apps, don't fall under the Apple review system and for the purpose of making contributions are indistinguishable from real apps. You can even put an icon on your screen just like "real" apps.

      The user doesn't have to "go" anywhere, they are already on a custom-designed web-app page, but most people would probably think they are in an app. There's absolutely no reason for donations to be made via an app. And in fact, for your purposes, the app that you claim you want really just behaves like a custom browser interface . . . which is what a web app _is_.

      As was quoted in the NYT article:

      “One of Apple’s major objections has been that if donations were to go through its payment mechanism, it would have to be in the business of managing and distributing funds and verifying charities as well,” said Jake Shapiro, executive director of Public Radio Exchange, or PRX, an online nonprofit marketplace for licensing and distributing public radio programming.

      This is a protest over nothing, a lot of rebels but no real cause.

      Make an end-run around Apple if you don't like their process, create a web app.

      Then you can go back to raising money for those in need . . . unless that is what this whole protest is really about, using Apple to drum up publicity for your organization.


    3. Priesman 94 months ago | reply

      I support Apple for this- after all, I don't want anyone at Apple (Steve Jobs included) to be making the decision about WHICH non-profit should be supported and which shouldn't. But I guess everyone's entitled to a petition and to try to drum up PR. After all, I fell for it by coming to this site and reading the NY Times article...

    4. hamster222222 94 months ago | reply

      To me, it seems quite remarkable that the last couple of posters are supporting Apple on this. What's going on?

      Perhaps they aren't aware that Apple is already in the business of reviewing apps & deciding which ones get the Apple seal of approval? All of those fart apps that charge $0.99 have been approved for the App Store and for Apple's simple charging mechanism.

      For the charities I would think the process would be much easier for Apple: the U.S. government already has a process for verifying them. If a charity turns out to be bogus then they lose their government status and Apple can delist them.

      My point is, if they can review and approve hundreds of thousands of other apps, why can't they do it for charity apps? It would be simple and straight-forward compared to the existing controversial and messy process.

      Regarding the idea of creating a web app, well, one of the lessons learned from Apple's App Store is that Apple users are quite happy to spend money if the process is made very simple (Amazon found the same thing). If they have to go through the process of registering and providing their credit card all over again then they won't do it.

      Am I missing something?

    5. cambodia4kidsorg 94 months ago | reply

      Hamster: Exactly, there are verifications systems in place for verifying charities - and Apple isn't making any decisions. Nonprofit who create apps and use them as a part of donation strategy are the ones who will make the decision - but Apple won't let them.

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