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    (Mother Teresa in stained glass, Transfiguration of Our Lord Parish, near YYZ)

    My aviator friends MAY have to pass over this post.

    It is in response to a horrendous distortion both illustrative and written about the life of Mother Teresa. I found it on flickr.

    But since I am the world’s worst Catholic, waiting for a saint to respond and finding none, I found I had to rise to the occasion.

    There are some who claim to know Mother Teresa, all about her in fact.

    And it’s all bad news apparently!

    I guess all those legions of folk who went to see her, worked alongside her for years or a lifetime just happened to miss all her dark deeds.

    Yep.

    Assertions too silly and too petty to repeat here, and claims neither balanced, nor insightful regarding the actions or motivations of this saint, I came face-to-face with a shocking realization.

    Like that spooky kid in Grade seven, who sat at the back of the class, etched swastikas and loved Adolf Hitler… so too I came to realize, there are just some adults out there, who are really out there, who hate Mother Teresa!

    Really… they just don’t understand Catholicism in particular, or Christianity in general.

    AND ONE should never criticize, what one has failed to understand!

    And some just have no religious stirrings at all ~

    ANYWAYS, I’ll let Mother Teresa… the criminal (according to Victor)… defend herself through some of her memorable quotes.

    "The biggest disease today is not leprosy or tuberculosis, but rather
    the feeling of being unwanted."

    "God doesn't require us to succeed; he only requires that you try."

    "The hunger for love is much more difficult to remove than the
    hunger for bread."

    "Jesus said love one another. He didn't say love the whole world."

    "In this life we cannot do great things. We can only do small things
    with great love."

    "Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are
    truly endless."

    "Many people mistake our work for our vocation. Our vocation is the
    love of Jesus."

    "There is always the danger that we may just do the work for the
    sake of the work. This is where the respect and the love and the
    devotion come in - that we do it to God, to Christ, and that's why
    we try to do it as beautifully as possible."

    "Sweetest Lord, make me appreciative of the dignity of my high
    vocation, and its many responsibilities. Never permit me to
    disgrace it by giving way to coldness, unkindness, or impatience."

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    1. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 73 months ago | reply

      Victor seems to be troubled somehow by the OT passages above.

      The OT was the "adolescent age" of mankind interacting with God.

      When a village of Samaritans refused to receive Jesus, the Sons of Thunder, James and John (Luke 9:51-56) asked,

      "“Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?”

      But Jesus responded by rebuking them, saying, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”

      And they went on to another village."

      Jesus elsewhere has stated "You have heard it said" referring to OT outlook, religious practice or morality and redressed these with, "But I say to you"…

      Clearly, Jesus was ushering in a new era with declarations like that.

      Still, Victor wants to live in the Old Testament.

    2. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 73 months ago | reply

      --Still, Victor wants to live in the Old Testament.---

      It has happened again. I hear so many Christians now declare that the Old Testament is defunct, in some manner or another, for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations, and really this is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their God.

      Their preachers spoon-feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can sweep under the carpet the evils that the bible promotes.

      One gets exasperated of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God. But really, how does one account for the OT? Is it not the word of God or what? And why should take the NT be any different, what the hell is being asserted here?

      Arrow, it is clear that you think I’m an idiot.

      I am still going to refer to the very source that is your authority --the bible; the NT--as my mainstay in this debate: All of the vicious Old Testament laws is binding: "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

      Jesus sanctions the law and the prophets--he hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

      Yes, lets focus on the NT! Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

      “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

      “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

      It goes on and on. Okay, argue it away. This is truly a logical burlesque show.

      -

    3. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 73 months ago | reply

      The Law and the Prophets lasted until the arrival of JOHN the BAPTIST.

      John becomes the transitional figure between the period of Israel, the time of promise, and the period of Jesus, which is the time of fufillment. The Kingdom of God begins as the Church must now replace the synagague, or the Temple.

      “Until all things have taken place” means just that. When Jesus died and rose again, all things had taken place and the law perished.

      “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17). WHY did you stop here? The answer follows!

      Here is the passage: John 1: 17 “For the law came through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.”

      The Church becomes the New (and final) Covenant community.

      You’re not an idiot. You pull passages out of context until you have no idea what’s happening. Even if you were to leave things in context you still aren’t sure what’s happening.

      You’d make a great Protestant.

    4. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 73 months ago | reply

      Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral acts. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly sanctions slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.

      Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery declaring that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word "servant", "bondservant", or "manservant" instead of "slave". While many slaves (that is the operative word) may have worked as household servants, that doesn't mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.

      In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn't know they were doing anything wrong.

      The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

      You would think that Jesus and the New Testament ( I mean, really, it is the NEW TESTAMENT) would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

      Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

      The fun never stops in supernatural land.

      ;]

    5. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 73 months ago | reply

      SLAVERY… that’s a bitch, ain’t it?

      Gee, I can’t think of any response to that horror.

      Oh, wait I can.

      CHRISTIANITY “tolerated” the social construct of slavery, in the same way we “tolerated” the political construct of the Roman, or more recently, the Nazi government.

      But the Christian “spirit” would not leave the issue of slavery alone for long.

      Already in the New Testament Paul grapples the issue head on in the Book of Philemon.

      This biblical book was the first to triumph the idea that slaves were equal to freemen, most especially because a new age had just dawned, the Christian age.

      Social acceptance of slavery could only unravel from that point on.

      Paul understands that Christians are united together in the mystical body of Christ, so slavery is incompatible with God’s final covenant with mankind. With this mindset Paul appeals to Philemon on the behalf of Philemon’s runaway slave, Onesimus who had become a Christian like Philemon. Onesimus, had been helping Paul carry out his apostolate while Paul was under house arrest by the Roman government. Paul, however, finally sends Onesimus back to Philemon but firmly reminds him to take him back "no longer as a slave but MORE THAN a slave, a brother".

      Slaves always had full access to all the sacraments of the Church, and some rose even to the stature of Pope!

      St. John Chrysostom condemned slavery. As did, Pope Eugene IV. But when does the secular authority ever listen to the teaching of the Church?

      Too bad. They’ll be judged by it anyway.

      Finally, Victor said, “In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn't know they were doing anything wrong.

      “The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)”

      Victor, please, please… tell me, you’re not so simple to think that this passage has anything to do with slavery?

      Did you miss verse 41 when Peter asked Jesus who He was addressing the PARABLE to, just the twelve disciples or everyone?

      This passage is about those (stewards) who will take leadership roles in the Church and the judgment they can expect personally, reward or curse, when the “master” returns, (in personal and immediate judgment upon their death) and finds them faithfully at their duties, or not.

      Victor, you keep proving the Bible is a dangerous thing in the hands of someone given to prooftexting.

      Prooftexting is the practice of using decontextualised quotations from a document (often, but not always, a book of the Bible) to establish a proposition rhetorically through an appeal to authority [of that document]. Critics of the technique note that often the document, when read as a whole, may not in fact support the proposition. (Wikipedia)

    6. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 73 months ago | reply

      Rationalization in psychology is the process of constructing a logical justification for a decision that was originally arrived at through a different mental process. (Wikipedia)

      Can the real life cult of the flying spaghetti monster be far behind?

    7. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 73 months ago | reply

      Prooftexting. Nonsense. De-contextulaized quotations? ALL OF THEM?

      The text I quoted stand alone to be judged. Look, let me ask you this, do you confirm or deny that God Himself (Itself) commands the direct killing of individuals (groups) for varied reasons--such as worshipping other gods, non-belief, fornication, adultery. You mentioned that God issued out what can be called "harsh punishments" (your words) as a parent may punish a child. What type of harsh punishments? Give examples. Please.

      Let me put those simple and direct questions to you, one that calls for a simple and direct answer.

      I dug these up; they stand alone for any honest person to see for thenselves, those who are reading this thread.

      Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:

      You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

      Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

      Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

      Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

      Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

      Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

      Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

      Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5

      -

    8. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 73 months ago | reply

      ANCIENT ISRAEL was a theocracy… not a democracy and false worship was not tolerated. Hence the "strange fire" incident.

      Today, all non-Catholic churches offer up worship to God that is not really acceptable or is a version of "strange fire". Only the Mass is acceptable worship. Ignorance of this liturgical fact mitigates responsibility of our contemporary non-Catholics.

      That said… I'm really likin' this OT review.

      I could clean up Canada IN A WEEK with judicial powers like these!

    9. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 73 months ago | reply

      fornicating sinner...kill me. Heehee. (Damn that apple tree, damn you all to hell!)
      ADAM AND EVIL.

    10. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 73 months ago | reply

      Victor… the photo was a little much~

      Actually, it was a fig tree in the Garden.

    11. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 73 months ago | reply

      And for some, the only real sin is being serious.

    12. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 72 months ago | reply

      regarding the recent tragic deaths of six Christian college students and their teacher.

      When these young Christians died, where was their God? When they left their Christian school en route to their adventure, and no doubt prayed to God to keep them all safe, where was God? When they prayed that morning for success in their trek and God's guidance to get them through it safely, where was God? It's the same question any honest person must have in every disaster.

      What the hell is this 'god' doing? According to his adherents, he's supposed to be all-powerful, all-knowing and all-good . So where was he, this omnipotent being, and what the hell was he doing when seven of his adherents put themselves in his hands? Didn't he want to look after 'his' children?
      -

    13. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 72 months ago | reply

      You’re asking this when Jesus, the Son of Man, suffered one of the most brutal deaths imaginable?

      God is not “aspirin” you take so that everything will be alright, in the here and now! God is not going to protect you from life.

      Christians do pray… and sometimes the answer is, “No”.

      Those kids are walking through the verdant hills of Heaven, looking back at you wondering why, why, you are upset about their fate.

      One life ends, and another begins.

    14. BobButcher 72 months ago | reply

      zzzzzzzzzz...

      I always get a kick out of the statement, "And where was their God when..." inferring that's proof there is no God. I suspect God was (is) in the same place he is when something bad happens to non-believers, as well. It's not like believers are exempt from the trials and tribulations of life, good grief!

    15. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 72 months ago | reply

      Let me clear in my points then:

      God does not exist. Pure and simple.

      To exist is to possess identity. What identity are you able to give to your “God”—this superior realm? You (theists, that is) keep telling us what it is *no*t, but never tell you what it *is*. All your identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, you say—and proceed to demand that you consider it knowledge—God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. your definitions are not acts of defining, but of obliterating.

      And what the hell is meant by “the supernatural”? Supposedly, a realm that transcends nature. What is nature? Nature is existence —*the sum of that which is* It is usually called “nature” when we think of it as a system of interconnected, interacting entities governed by law. So “nature” really means the universe of entities acting and interacting in accordance with their identities. What, then, is “super-nature”? Something beyond the universe, beyond entities, beyond identity. It would have to be: a form of existence beyond existence—a kind of entity beyond anything man knows about entities—a something which CONTRADICTS everything human beings know about the identity of that which *is*. In short, theists take words like “exist” ---and strip it of its actual meaning, turn it on its head, contradict it top to bottom and call it “God.” (!) LOL. LOL.

      ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    16. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 72 months ago | reply

      Victor, if believers believed based on your conclusions about believing, I doubt they would believe at all.

      Nature is that which surrounds us, and which can be perceived by our senses.

      God cannot be perceived this way.

      He is perceived only through our intellect. Except for some notable exceptions to this rule, and excluding the time of Jesus, of course.

      You can never reason your way in, or out of, faith.

      Faith remains a gift, from God.

      But the Catholic Faith can be explained reasonably, and it is quite reasonable and it does lead to “that gift”.

      You said,

      “It would have to be: a form of existence beyond existence—a kind of entity beyond anything man knows about entities—a something which CONTRADICTS everything human beings know about the identity of that which *is*.”

      – No, not contradicts but supplements our existing and evolving knowledge of creation AND the uncreated.

      God is saying in effect to you that you see the ordered universe about you with all its beauty and splendour…well, here I am, just beyond that.

      And above that.

      And if you really want to find me, you will. If you really want to.

      All who seek, find, as Jesus promised.

      But Victor, you’ve spent your whole life trying to get away from God, that He has gotten your message. Don’t worry, He has figured it out.

      And so He keeps himself from you, deliberately…because that is what you really want! All your actions, thus far, say so.

      No mystery there about the absence of God in your life, brother–

      I remember once an ex-Baptist that worked in the same environment that I did.

      He thought that since I was a Catholic he would debate the Bible with me, since he knew it pretty well, had some “beefs” with Catholicism etc. and needed to air those, all this, even though he was an ex-Baptist.

      On one occasion he was telling about his conquests of women, which I really didn’t need to hear, but listened to anyway.

      He was still laughing in the regaling of these tales when I asked him if he heard the story about the man that died?

      He immediately became alarmed, stopped laughing and responded that he hadn’t.

      "There was this man once who lived a full and exciting life. He loved his family, helped out his neighbours from time to time, and tried to be fair with the employees he supervised at work. He avoided anything that “smacked” of religion and had no time for Christianity.

      He was quite satisfied with his life, as it stood, and was planning out the next few years when suddenly one night, he died.

      Just after he died, in the very corridor of death, the angel Gabriel met the man, seized him and immediately took him before the throne of God.

      Not far away was the lake of fire.

      God asked the man what he had to say for himself, he needed to give an accounting.

      The man was confused. He thought about it and said to God that he felt he lived a good life. He loved his family, would help out his neighbours within his means and tried to be a good supervisor at his workplace.

      God acknowledged the man had indeed lived a good life in regards to his fellow man.

      Then God asked the man about Himself.

      The man became afraid.

      He said he had passed by many churches in his travels, had seen and heard the Pope and evangelists on TV, had noticed books about God in the library, and in bookstores, but he really didn’t listen to any of it. He knew lots of people were “into” religion but he, himself, didn’t think religion was important.

      Then he told God, “I didn’t know, I just didn’t know…I didn’t believe you existed!

      God paused for a moment, then responded to the man.

      “Well…now you know!”

      And immediately, the angel Gabriel seized the man…and hurled him into the lake of fire."

      My ex-Baptist friend was horrified. He tried to defend the man.

      “But the man didn’t know!

      He knew.

      I responded that’s the moral of this story.
      He should have known. That’s why he was guilty.

      He didn’t neglect his RRSPs or IRAs I bet, or his taxes…but he neglected the more important things, those things of the spirit.

      He should have taken care of both, but the man remained impoverished.

      “But the man was good to people!”, my alarmed friend continued.

      I responded, “Here let me show you the Spiritual Equation. You’ll remember it all the days of your life.”

      “Good – God = 0.”

      Yes, pagans do many good works and deeds for others, but those “works” are not part of the Redemption. They are not joined to the work of Christ. They provide for the immediate temporal benefits of the needy, and are important, but their value also ends there. Unlike the Apostle Paul who preached, said Mass for the faithful, and also helped out the needy.

      And Mother Teresa provided for the material and spiritual needs of the poor in her care, in the same, age-old tradition.

      My ex-Baptist friend returned to his faith, invited me to his wedding and his mother became a Catholic. Not bad, eh?

    17. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 72 months ago | reply

      FRANK ZAPPA another dystopian like you.

      Frank just another worthless, mealy-mouthed anti-establishment do-nothing whiner who sneered at everybody else. Frank's biggest problem was that he never looked in the mirror. And that he imagined that he was somehow better than the Evangelicals.

      Album after album of boring, unfocused nothing…and nothing in his work resonates with the common man. However, the lunatic fringe has a soul-mate in Frank.

      If someone ever writes a book about Frank, just entitle it, "One Meaningless Life".

      He's your champion? How old are you? Thirteen??

    18. VICTOR PROSS: British Columbia artist 72 months ago | reply

      According to religion, there is a God—an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good being—who is the creator of the universe and the maker of moral law.

      The essence of His moral law is that human beings must have faith in His existence and goodness and that we must obey His commands without question.

      That is the general theory as read in the Bible and Koran. Practicing religion consists specifically in having faith in God and being obedient to His will.

      Bearing in mind this requirement of unconditional obedience, observe that, like Islam, both Judaism and Christianity prohibit speech offensive to God—and both call for those who violate this tenet to be put to death. From the Old Testament:

      ________

      Whoever curses his God shall bear his sin. Whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.

      If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, “Let us go and serve other gods,” . . . you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him.

      _______

      Those are just two such passages; of course there are many more in the Bible. While some religionists try to brush aside such divine decrees—saying “God didn’t mean those parts” or “I don’t accept those sections” or “Let’s be rational here” or “Let’s not be extreme” or whatever the rationalized cop out—and in so doing, they deny a fundamental tenet of religion. Either God is to be obeyed, or He is not. If one chooses to obey God only when one thinks He got it right, or only when one wants to obey Him, or only when one thinks it is rational to do so, then one denies God’s divine authority—which, according to religion, is a very bad thing to do.

      So what is the point of all this? It seems that religion demands either obedience or hypocrisy—and to justify that hypocrisy takes a huge amount of head-standing rationalizations and verbal gymnastics—all of which is extremely amusing to behold.

      :}

    19. Paul Cardin (Never Was An Arrow) 67 months ago | reply

      What's amusing to behold is how some just never get it. There is a deliberate God ordained evolution of religion, salvation history, coinciding and being finally completed with the arrival of the Christ.

      But Victor still wants to live in Genesis.

      Once a stick in the mud...always stuck I guess.

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