Lizzie and Will BLACKMORE, Southsea, January 1909

  • EastMarple1 4y

    One of several individual photos I bought at an Antiques and Collectors fair at Newbury Racecourse, August 8th 2011. This one is different to most as it has a gloss finish.

    It comes from the same source as which shows a photograph of Roy's mother, Mrs COATES in uniform during WWI.

    Luckily someone has added lots of details on the back of this one

    Jan 1909
    Mrs Coates sister
    Roys aunt and uncle
    Lizzie and Uncle Will Blackmore
    Roys Aunt Lizzie and Uncle Will

    and the following on the back of the other one
    Mrs Ethel Coates
  • EastMarple1 4y


    1911 Census
    Living 104 Clay Hall Road Haslar Gosport Hants in a 6 room house

    William BLACKMORE H M 46 Steward at United Services Golf Club Haslar b. Pembury, Monmouthshire
    Elizabeth BLACKMORE W M 35 Married 16 years one child b Gosport, Hants
    Muriel BLACKMORE D 6 b Welshpool, Montgomeryshire
    William SCOTNEY BiL 15 Assistant Steward at U.S.G.C. b. Gosport

    Ten years earlier the married Elizabeth BLACKMORE but without husband was living with her parents Thomas and Elizabeth SCOTNEY at 35 Peham Road, Alverstoke. Thomas was a painter a H.M. Gunwharf. Also listed in the same household is a younger sister known only by the initials E. H. SCOTNEY who was 9 years old.
    So I referred back to the 1891 census to see if Elizabeth had any other sisters who may have left home by 1901 and I was in luck.
    Ethel M. SCOTNEY aged 8 years, parents Thomas and Elizabeth and older sister, Elizabeth age 15 years, all living together with other members of the family in Alverstoke, Hants.

    Looking at marriage records I then found
    Ethel May SCOTNEY married Richard Henry COATES in Portsmouth district qtr Sep 1907
    I really struggled to find a marriage for William and Elizabeth until I realised that the GRO indices gave a different surname for William.
    Elizabeth Mary A. SCOTNEY married William BLACKMAN according to the GRO marriage indices in qtr Jun 1895, Alverstoke district.

    I couldn't immediately find Ethel and Richard in the 1911 census but then found that they had been mistranscribed as surname COAKS
    Living 152 Haslar View Clayhall Gosport Hants. (4 rooms)
    Richard Henry COATES H M M 29 Army Pensioner. Nightwatchman Royal Engineers School of Instruction born Shoeburyness Essex
    Ethel May COATES W M F 27 Married 3 years 1 child born Gosport, Hants
    Laurence Richard Thomas COATES S M 3 born Gosport Hants
  • Paul Jackson 4y

    His cap badge looks like The South Wales Borderers. The medal might be the King's South Africa Medal
  • EastMarple1 4y

    Paul Jackson Guess what.... you are right! I have 9 pages of his Chelsea Pension Records online in front of me now!
  • EastMarple1 4y

    Colour sergeant in the South Wales Borderers. Permanent staff. Discharged 19th August 1904, Welshpool.
    At time of discharge age 40 years. Height 5' 71/2"; Chest 40" ;Complexion Fair; Eyes Blue; Hair Light Brown ;Trade Groom.
    Intended place of residence 8 West Street Southsea.
    The photo does not reveal his tattoo marks. W and spot on his left forearm; king on ring finger of left hand.
    Discharged as completed his 21 years period of engagement
    Conduct very good. Intended occupation - clerk.

    4 Good conduct badges

    Burmah Clasp 1888'/89
  • EastMarple1 4y

    Joined up 21 August 1883 at Brecon. Born Pembray nr Llanelly Camarthenshire

    As well as serving at home and in Burmah he served in India twice.
    Marital details - Married Eliza Mary Ann Scotney at Alverstoke Southampton 15th April 1895.
    Also states that wife with regiment.
  • Paul Jackson 4y

    Colour Sergeant..he must have been quite the guy
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