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John Frattura says:

I just happened to do a Google search of my name and from flickr there were some of my images that had a link(?) overlayed over the thumbnail, that read "Licensable". Some images had it, some didn't.

Clicking on the image brought this up: "Get this image on: Flickr | License details". Clicking on that link leads to the image.

So why does Google include this "licensable" tag on some flickr images, and not others? Maybe they just haven't gotten around to indexing them all? And not to be rude, but I have to get to bed, and will check this tomorrow to see if anybody has any information.
Posted at 11:14PM, 14 October 2020 PDT ( permalink | reply )

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Mike Slade. says:

John Frattura:

I see this on some of my photo's in a google search, I've no idea what this means but I've an idea in my head and I don't think I like it much.

It would be good if a staff member would chime in here.
Posted 1 week ago. ( permalink | reply )

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mcnod says:

John Frattura:

will check this tomorrow to see if anybody has any information.

www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157715802981028/

petapixel.com/2020/08/31/google-images-launches-licensabl...
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dollywings [ Pat ] says:

John Frattura:

I see it on some of mine too and all my photos are ©All rights reserved!
Posted 10 days ago. ( permalink | reply )

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John Frattura says:

Mike Slade.:

mcnod:

dollywings [ Pat ]:

Thanks guys. According to the petapixel article that mcnod linked to it says: "If you click a badged photo to view, you’ll see credit/copyright/creator info and a link to the license details of that photo.", but when i tried it last night, clicking on the google link for "license details" simply leads to the image itself on flickr. Ill have to investigate further later tonight.
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Coyoty says:

Google has implemented a new function that checks photos' EXIF and other taggings for licensing information and displays that status on the photos that have it.
Posted 9 days ago. ( permalink | reply )

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Stig Nygaard says:

John Frattura:

According to the petapixel article that mcnod linked to it says: "If you click a badged photo to view, you’ll see credit/copyright/creator info and a link to the license details of that photo.", but when i tried it last night, clicking on the google link for "license details" simply leads to the image itself on flickr.


On Google Image Search, try first clicking on photo to open photo in right panel. Then click on the "License Details" in text below the image shown in right panel. For mine this always seems to points to the Creative Commons license I have used for my photo.

Regarding Google picking license information up from Image Exif data, that only works if Flickr doesn't strip license info from the images. And while Flickr keeps crediting info, the license info is removed from the display-images. So unless Google are clever enough to look for the original upload (when available), it seems that Flickr is adding the IPTC licensing info in meta-data on the page. And so it seems to be. I found the following checking photopage sourcecode for one of my latest photos:



<script type="application/ld+json">

[{
"@context": "http://schema.org",
"@type": "BreadcrumbList",
"itemListElement": [
{
"@type": "ListItem",
"position": 1,
"item": {
"@id": "https://www.flickr.com/photos/stignygaard",
"name": "Stig Nygaard",
"image": "https://live.staticflickr.com/7355/buddyicons/10259776@N00.jpg?1372021232#10259776@N00"
}
}, {
"@type": "ListItem",
"position": 2,
"item": {
"@id": "https://www.flickr.com/photos/stignygaard/50462776672",
"name": "Autumn in the harbor",
"image": "https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50462776672_5b124d3d29_b.jpg"
}
}
]
},
{
"@context": "https://schema.org/",
"@type": "ImageObject",
"contentUrl": "https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50462776672_5b124d3d29_b.jpg",
"license": "https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/",
"acquireLicensePage": "https://www.flickr.com/photos/stignygaard/50462776672"
}
]

</script>



If anyone suspects Google is mistakenly identifying a license, then:

1) Verify that Google really found the photo on Flickr, and not somewhere else.
2) If Google found image on Flickr, check sourcecode of the photopage, or point us to the photopage so we can check the sourcecode.

PS I would greatly prefer Flickr also kept the licensing info embedded in the display-version of images ("Exif"), so info can be discovered outside Flickr when photos are embedded from (or copied) from Flickr.
Posted 9 days ago. ( permalink | reply )
Stig Nygaard edited this topic 8 days ago.

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cnmark says:

Stig Nygaard:

it seems that Flickr is adding the IPTC [...] info in meta-data

I'd say that assumption is correct. Whatever I have as IPTC data in my pictures when they are uploaded, appeared on flickr in the "EXIF" data. I just needed to click on the EXIF link in flickr to see that.

And then Google probably pulls it from there.
Posted 9 days ago. ( permalink | reply )

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iansand says:

Every picture is licensable. The only issue is the extent to which a copyright holder has chosen to grant a pre-emptive licence. A reference back to the flickr page discloses what the licence is.

Nothing to see here. Move along folks.
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Stig Nygaard says:

John Frattura:

And just checked photopage sourcecode one of your photos. Metadata says:


{
"@context": "https://schema.org/",
"@type": "ImageObject",
"contentUrl": "https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50178779683_ec4122d5de_b.jpg",
"license": "https://www.flickr.com/photos/52623957@N02/50178779683",
"acquireLicensePage": "https://www.flickr.com/photos/52623957@N02/50178779683"
}

So for "All rights reserved" photos, Flickr sets license-link to point to the photopage.
That might make sense (so you can easily find who to ask), however I imagine some will prefer not to have the license-link at all when no special license has been chosen (?)
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iansand says:

Stig Nygaard:

If no licence has been "chosen" the licence is all rights reserved. This is a non-debate fuelled by ignorance.
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Stig Nygaard says:

iansand:

I'm not sure what your point is? Not sure if we disagree about something or not?

Do you like license link pointing to photopage or don't like it? Or neutral/undecided (like I currently am)?

Mostly I was just trying to explain what was going on and why we are starting seeing the license-links in Google Image Search results.

Technically All Rights Reserved (is not actually a license, but) does not rule out you can contact the copyright holder and get permission to use it (for free or paid). But some would probably never consider allowing 3rd party use in any way and don't like to signal that they might be willing to do so? So I understand opinions both for and against.
Posted 9 days ago. ( permalink | reply )
Stig Nygaard edited this topic 9 days ago.

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katie_ko says:

Just wanted to jump in here to confirm answers to some questions asked here.

John Frattura:

So why does Google include this "licensable" tag on some flickr images, and not others? Maybe they just haven't gotten around to indexing them all?

As the photos continue to get indexed by google, the licensing tags will gradually appear for all photos.

We link back to Flickr so that people can see the licensing details for the photo and to contact the photographer for any additional details or question they may have.
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skinnyispretty says:

katie_ko:

"We link back to Flickr so that people can see the licensing details for the photo and contact the photographer for any additional details or questions they may have."

That helps, thanks for that.
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Dom Greves says:

Flickr has not implemented this feature correctly in my opinion.

Why have you not given users any choice about where their licensing and contact information points to? Clearly photos CANNOT be licensed directly from Flickr, which defeats the whole purpose.

It's also applied inconsistently. Why do some of my Flickr images appear in Google Images search results with the 'Licensable' tag but not others?
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Coyoty says:

Dom Greves:

Google's tag indicates only that it's licensable, not from who. The assumption is always that it's you, not the hosting website, and it's the responsibility of the person wanting to license the photo to find out who the owner is and contact them.

If Flickr makes the status available to Google, they are not indicating that the photo is licensable from Flickr, only that it can be licensed.

You choose whether it can be licensed and what rights are available from you. Those rights are shown on the page for the photo. So Flickr HAS given you the choice about where the licensing and contact information is found.
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Dom Greves says:

Coyoty:

Any image is potentially licensable. This does not improve the Google Images search experience or make it any easier for potential buyers to license images. If Flickr/SmugMug can't get their act together and integrate their own licensing system they should allow paying users to link the correct metadata to our own solutions!
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