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[Official Thread] Update to creative commons attribution on the new photo page

Flickr Staff

satmum says:

Since June 2004, Flickr has embraced Creative Commons licenses. At the time, Flickr founder Stewart Butterfield wrote, “As individuals and as a company we wholeheartedly support and endorse the Creative Commons’ mission and hope to help contribute to the preservation and enhancement of creative freedom and personal expression.”

Now, with more than 300 million CC-licensed uploads, the site is the largest single repository of freely-licensed images in the world.

When we enabled Flickr’s new photo experience for the English-language version of the site two weeks ago, we enabled our own design interpretation of the CC license icons, while fulfilling the Uniform Resource Identifier provision of the license.

Since then, we’ve heard a lot of feedback that we should switch to the more universally recognized CC icons that we used on the previous photo page. Today we are switching back to the familiar Creative Commons icons on the new photo experience. Additionally, we’re changing a design feature to showcase the Creative Commons license information at the top of the photo page under the photo’s description and the view count. This should guarantee that the license is more visible.







We’re very proud to support Creative Commons and we’ll make improvements to Flickr to be sure we continue to attract the largest variety of freely-licensed images online.

Satish Mummareddy

[Edit: Link fixed]
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Paul B Jones says:

Fantastic. Thanks for addressing this issue.
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austenhaines says:

So this is an apology? You had it correct in the previous version, changed it for the new version. Realised you got it wrong when we the customers told you, and have now reverted to the old system?

However there is no actualy 'sorry' from you. Plus you even have the audacity to remind us how brilliant the new photo page is! "We brought significant performance and design improvements". I actually find this post very offensive, and very insensitive.

Flickr has acknowledged that the groups are messed up, and are conducting a survey of what to do, but you still insist on praising yourself and patting yourself on your back.

This Isn't a direct attack at this member of staff, I'm just gobsmacked that you think it's ok to mess things up, correct it, and not apologise. Grrrrrr.
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joshua_putnam says:

Good steps towards fixing this issue. even though you don't admit it was really a problem.

Now, about attribution -- the new BBCode generator does not include the photographer's name as a text link. The old BBCode did.

Please fix BBCode to include a text link with the photographer's name, the same way BBCode used to on the old interface.
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anuwintschalek says:

Good.

(Except for the overwhelmingly bad UX in general that has been dominating since May 13, one stumbling block following the other. Too sad what has become of this once innovative, flexible and fully, enjoyably functional site - and the great loyal community it had attracted, gathered and catered to.)
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The Searcher says:

austenhaines: What would be the point? Someone's still going to come along and tell them whatever they did sucked, and the site sucked, and everything sucks. Why do they owe you an apology exactly? I haven't heard you or anyone apologize to them for treating them like shit all the time. Talk about offensive and insensitive.

Treat people like people, then maybe they'll return the favor. Until then they don't owe you anything.
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familiar foot says:

The Searcher:

Why is your nose that funny color?
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austenhaines says:

The Searcher:

Umm I haven't treated them like shit at all? Not sure where you got that from. ?
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abstractartangel77 says:

Satish Mummareddy: Thank you for putting this back in a more prominent position. I hope the next thing on Flickr's to-do list will be to put our admin invites in a prominent position again, i.e. on the photopage, as promised.
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David Hoffman '41 says:

This affects 99% of my photos. Thank you for rethinking your "own design interpretation" as inadequate for universal standards.
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~Craig~ says:

thank you
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kmacgray says:

Some people are going to be miserable about everything in life, no matter what. There's no point in arguing with them.

As for the topic at hand, thanks to staff for addressing this piece of feedback.
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Wil C. Fry says:

I was glad to see this. It's the first time I can remember that Flickr made the license *more* prominent on the photopage; in the last several iterations, I complained that the license was becoming less obvious and moving further down the page, so I decided not to even complain about it this time.

Thanks, Flickr.

There are still 30-something missing features on the NPE though. :-/
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Denish C says:

Well done Flickr! Thanks for listening to complaints and acknowledging their validity. Keep up the good work!
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skagitrenee says:

Any improvement is very appreciated.

I too am anxious for admin invites to return to the photo page. I hope this is your next priority.
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Kevin says:

As usual, The Searcher is right.
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The Searcher says:

Pumblechook_2013: Why is your account brand new and empty? Nothing lower on the internet than cowardly sock-puppets.
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The Searcher says:

austenhaines: Sorry, I was overly harsh. I was just frustrated that here we have a situation where something on Flickr was changed for the worse, and people gave feedback on that, and Flickr listened to the feedback and improved something. And one of the first responses was that they weren't contrite enough when they presented the change to us.

That just seemed to me to be a short-sighted thing to do. A negative reinforcement of a positive action, in psych 101 terms. Because if that's all they're going to get, if no matter what we say and what they do on our say-so, if all we're going to do is demand more, to say it isn't good enough, to say they didn't do it nicely enough, or ask for forgiveness enough? Then eventually why would they bother to ever listen to us at all, ever again?

There are a lot of things that need fixing and improving on this site. I want staff to keep listening to us, and making changes for us. So I think it serves us absolutely nothing to slap them down when they actually do something we asked, just because it didn't come with an apology.
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austenhaines says:

The Searcher:

Hi. Your right, I was too negative, on something which, yes, is a positive, so I take some of that back. I guess I was wound up and should have thought more before commenting. :-)

So I do apologise to the staff in this thread if I was harsh. And I know they are working hard to fix stuff.

Will buy you an old fashioned flickr doughnut sometime The Searcher. :-)
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The Searcher says:

austenhaines: mmm, doughtnuts, yes please.
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Flickr Staff

Matthew Almon Roth says:

austenhaines:

Thanks for the thoughtful comment. We don't take it personally, but we do want to do right by you all here.

Matthew
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austenhaines says:

Matthew Almon Roth:

yeah well its your round on the doughnuts next week. :-) And i want a jam one.
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Doctor Casino says:

Bravo Flickr - a good decision.
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anuwintschalek says:

Matthew Almon Roth:

Thank You!

It's really, really good to see the copyright information right there where it belongs, near the photographer's name.

The frustration level has been high, hence the harshness. It's kind of hard to feel phased out with one's preferences and user habits. The changes have broken so much - both these of last year and the NPE. The most painful part, I'd say, is the presentation of the comments right now. It might well be the final dealbreaker for many when the possibility to flee in other languages disappears. (Positive change I've noticed: only one click to display all comments, no more batches of 20.)
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Hans Kerensky says:

Satish Mummareddy:

Good Show ! Thanks for giving us that information back to a directly visible place.
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