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[Official Topic] Third-party image blocking

Flickr Staff

Schill PRO says:

Staff update, October 22, 8:19 AM PST: This feature is now live.

Hello, glorious members of Flickr,

This is an advance notice about a change we're planning to make to the site in a few days. The change will affect "embedded" or "inline" images not hosted on Flickr, most often included in comments on the site.

The pending change

Remote, or "third-party" images are presently allowed in comments.

For a number of reasons, going forward we will show a placeholder instead of loading the image right away -- similar to how a flash or plugin blocker works. In order to load the actual images, you will have to click through.

Why the change?

In brief, performance and security can be affected by third-party images. Some notable downsides:

• Third-party images can increase page load time (DNS lookups and bandwidth). If remote sites are slow or down, this can degrade page load/performance even more.

• If a third-party image comes from a known malicious domain, some browsers will display a malware/security warning instead of a Flickr page, such as this example from Chrome:



• Non-HTTPS (SSL/Secure Socket Layer) content will cause "mixed content" warnings on secure pages and is an obstacle in the way of Flickr moving to using SSL.

Does this affect me?

If you currently use images in comments etc. that are not from Flickr, they will be blocked with a placeholder image and will be displayed only when the placeholder is clicked.
If you regularly visit photo pages with a lot of remote images, you should see an increase in performance.

Images that have been uploaded to Flickr will not be blocked. Many members and groups currently use Flickr images, and will not be affected by this change.

Check out the FAQ for more information on embedding Flickr images.

What will it look like?

A blocked image will appear as and when clicked, the remote image will load in.

I use [some image, chart or graph] on my profile. Can that be whitelisted, please?

We are considering a few special exceptions on profile pages. We plan to review this list from time to time based on your feedback.

Gee, Flickr seems faster, zippier and more secure without all those extra third-party images loading!

Yes, that's the plan. :)
Posted at 8:49AM, 18 October 2012 PDT ( permalink )
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Wil C. Fry PRO says:

+1
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wil C. Fry PRO says:

"I use [some image, chart or graph] on my profile. Can that be whitelisted, please?

We are considering a few special exceptions on profile pages. We plan to review this list from time to time based on your feedback."

That's probably a good idea, for all the BigHugeLabs images and flagcounters that people put on their profile pages.

Overall, I think this is a great idea that will speed up quite a few page loads -- not just photopages, but the Recent Activity section "Replies to My Comments", which is often overloaded with images from third-party sites.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM says:

Thanks for the info.

Change is so much easier to accept when you know it's coming, instead of the site just "breaking".


OOOOOOh, Flashing GIFs???
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae PRO says:

Awesome! Flickr is the best. (For now, until you do something I don't like.)

;-)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Patrick Costello PRO says:

Maybe profile pages could be excluded from the restriction. It's the only real place users are encouraged to personalise to any degree and maintaining an appropriate whitelist could be onerous.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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austenhaines says:

Oooooo a good change. :-)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

Schill PRO says:

These days, most social network and UGC-type sites don't allow custom HTML, let alone inline or third-party images to be used in comments or posts.

Given Flickr's mid-2000s origin, it was originally developed with allowances for some HTML and formatting of comments (bold, underline, italicized and so forth), as well as inline images.

One might say we're trying to maintain a balance between a completely locked-down, sterile design and Myspace (circa 2005) here.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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kmacgray PRO says:

+1

I had better get this in now, then. : )


Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_ PRO says:

+1
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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p0239u5;aklfdjgpwo8e5udfjkniuewqthskdjfg[8q4tjh says:

Yay!!!
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ratsj PRO says:

Thanks for this!

(edited 3 days later to add: I must admit that I was thinking mostly about the bandwidth savings, just like when user feedback at the time of adding "pictures that move" convinced flickr to NOT auto-load the videos. The character of some group discussions will definitely change now. Shan't try to guess whether for better or worse; opinions will differ.)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )
ratsj edited this topic 54 months ago.

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jane_sanders PRO says:

Don't want to sound like I'm copying everyone else but this gets a big +1 from me too.

:-)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae PRO says:

The glittery gif awards groups are going to go ballistic when they see this.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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kmacgray PRO says:

+1
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Hairlover PRO says:

Anyone could get around the new block by simply uploading the item to their 'stream before posting them, right?.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae PRO says:

Correct.

Except for the flickr rule that you should only upload content to your stream that you created. Not content that you've nicked from somewhere else on the web.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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bluebird218 says:

Does this include group pages and/or discussion threads? I see a lot of groups with "View this group's most interesting photos on flickriver" etc.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae PRO says:

That's a good question. It's not completely clear from the OP. It states comments and hints that it will also affect the profile page.

My best guess is it's a universal change that will affect all outside hosted images on flickr.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ceila♪♫♪ PRO says:

Yes, that's the plan. :)

Great !!!
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ausfi PRO says:

Some people have maps showing where visitors come to see their profile. I have strips on the groups that I am the only admin of, made by Bighugelabs. Will those be affected in the profile? Maybe not that many people go to the profile pages?
Maybe this will encourage the awards groups writing more proper comments and not just slapping a large lot of similar pictures under a photo.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )
ausfi edited this topic 54 months ago.

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FlyButtafly PRO says:

Koo! Although one of my groups frequently posts gifs in threads - so this will affect those, correct? We're not just talking about on photos?'

And yes, please consider whitelisting BHL - especially considering his long-standing (good) relationship with Flickr. Or the profile in general, as Patrick mentioned. :)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )
FlyButtafly edited this topic 54 months ago.

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Dorsetdunk says:

excellent that is a really positive step forward by Flickr
but i see tears and tantrums on the horizon

glad to see you you are making some exceptions concerning the profile page, smart move
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ther-esa says:

Glorious staff of flickr: looks good :)


I'm assuming this will not affect my ability to put an image of my own in my comments on my photo? I sometimes do that to show how the original looks different, or to display something about the narrative of the photo. I also sometimes put a small image of a contact's into the comments to show the source of inspiration for the photo. I'd like to be able to continue to do that with flickr photos as it enhances the narrative nature of our photos and relationships with other flickr members and their photos.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ther-esa says:

I don't see any tantrums on the horizon but I do see a revival of ASCII spam art.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM says:

an image of my own

As long as it's hosted on Flickr, and not somewhere else, you'll be fine.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae PRO says:

This will only affect images that are not hosted on flickr. So you can continue to post photos in your comments (or other's) as long as the image is hosted on flickr.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM says:

I vote for maps and BHL toys being allowed on profile pages.

(I'd like to retain my Nerd Goddess sign too, but I realize that might be stretching things).
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ther-esa says:

We're voting?

Ok, I like BHL but unless flickr buys it I vote to not give it special status.

Ruby: yes, I just wanted to emphasize why keeping inline flickr photos was a good thing for the community.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM says:

ther-esa

In the OP, Schill said:

I use [some image, chart or graph] on my profile. Can that be whitelisted, please?

We are considering a few special exceptions on profile pages. We plan to review this list from time to time based on your feedback.

Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ther-esa says:

And I'm saying don't play favorites.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Skinny Bald Guy™ says:

Will I be able to keep gifs on the comments of my own photos, like this:



on this:

Splat
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae PRO says:

Only if the image is hosted on flickr. Keep in mind that flickr rules don't allow you to upload content to your photostream that you didn't create.

So, if you made the gif and it's in your photostream then you can post it in comments.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Creepella Gruesome PRO says:

Sounds great!!

I also vote for Big Huge Labs in profiles. Also the BHL "view on black" link that goes under photos on the photo pages. It's not an image, but simply a link that brings you to a large on black. I hope that stays.

I also vote for flickriver in profiles. A lot of people use that for "view my most interesting photos on flickriver", and also on group front pages.... "view this groups most interesting photos on flickriver". That's a nice feature that I also hope stays.

Other than that, I think the whole idea is great!! :)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM says:

ther-esa

They are going to play favorites.

They will not be white-listing every site out there. They will make choices about which sites are not blacklisted. They will make those choices based on user feedback.

The "favorites" will be the favorites that people give them feedback about.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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jakerome PRO says:

Oh. Group front pages. Yeah, that's a whole 'nother story.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson PRO says:

Will I be able to keep gifs on the comments of my own photos

From what it says, you can post anything you want. The restriction is that 3rd-party images won't be displayed inline; your viewers will have to click the little icon to see the image.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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loupiote (Old Skool) pro PRO says:

i don't see that as a bad change (except that, like other said, i do use in-line images from other domains on my profile page, and i would prefer them to keep being loaded by default).

but i don't buy the argument that domain look-up slows down page loading. that's because in-line images are loaded asynchronously, after the html (text) part of the page is loaded and rendered. the rendering is adjusted once the size of the in-line image is known. but i've never seen a page loading being blocked by an in-line image that is hosted on an un-responsive server or a domain that cannot be resolved.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Nicole Bechaz says:

This is going to be very interesting when the admins of big award groups see this!!! (The ones that don`t use images uploaded to flickr for comment codes). Also if we will be able to use images that are uploaded to flickr for comment codes, on the front page at all!!!
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Nicole Bechaz edited this topic 54 months ago.

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Nionyn_ PRO says:

This is going to be very interesting when the admins of big award groups see this!!! (The ones that don`t use images uploaded to flickr for comment codes).
Yep. Call me perverse if you like, but I'm almost looking forward to that... ;-)
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Ⓑⓔⓐ PRO says:

People can still upload big glittery logos to Flickr and then invite with these.....

:S
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Pacdog PRO says:

I welcome the change.. I see no reason a group cannot sort out their pages and the photos/links there so they come from a source Flickr allows. Surely Flickr staff are not going to be killing 3rd party sites (like picnik for example) that have API keys. That would really be a mess.. As far as award groups go I can see them freaking out which should be fun to watch..
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Jakes_World says:

you are truly fucking kidding me. I have been here since GNE. Paid up member since 2004. . And now WHAT?????
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Jakes_World says:

ther-esa I love you
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Pacdog PRO says:

Also Big Huge Labs has always worked on the premise your using your own photos to make changes to then you upload the changes to your Flickr stream, but the original photo used was yours.. That is how it should be.
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Jakes_World says:

vimeo.com/28990706
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Jakes_World says:

Schill and you are staff........... how?
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Jakes_World says:

Pacdog go away. this is wrong. and you never gave me a date anyway, Paccy
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson PRO says:

It's all about where the image is hosted ... not where you created the image.

If the <img> src is not on flickr, then you'll see the placeholder icon to click through. If it is on Flickr, then you'll see the image.

All the sparkly gif users need to do is upload their sparkly gif to flickr and link to that.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Pacdog PRO says:

As far as only upload your own photo to your stream,,, Look some members and even groups are dedicated to helping others in "fixing" or "changing" a photo for them which can result in one member uploading the finished product to their stream to show the group or just the person asking for help. Flickr has, to my knowledge, never deleted a member for this.. What they mean by only upload your own photos is just that.. Your stream should be your photos for the most part.. You help out a friend with a photo and upload your changes to their photo on your stream with that knowledge being known then you should be fine.. If your stream is full of photos not taken by you then your breaking the intent of the law as far as Flickr is concerned..

I could be wrong here.
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Brenda Anderson PRO says:

What does that have to do with the topic at hand?
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Pacdog PRO says:

It has allot to do with hosting photos on third party sites because your afraid your breaking the letter of the law for what is considered uploading photos to your stream to help out another member.. I'm sorry I was not clear where I was going on this..
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Dorsetdunk says:

what might be a problem is where group creators have since left
and used non hosted awards/invites etc and no one will be able to change the existing scripts
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson PRO says:

Ah, I see.

But, Flickr isn't preventing you from linking to a photo on another site; only preventing it from displaying inline. So if you're worried about uploading it to your own account, then just continue doing it the way you are.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Ewan PRO says:

So, how many help forum pages do we think this'll run to? I think I'm going to have to go with eleven.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Roger in AZ PRO says:

"These days, most social network and UGC-type sites don't allow custom HTML, let alone inline or third-party images to be used in comments or posts."

So once again staff changes the flickr experience to be like other " social network and UGC-type sites.

If staff wants to make flickr just another social network, fine, but you won't get my renewal money.



*goes to look for a gif of moran shooting himself in foot*
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Nionyn_ PRO says:

what might be a problem is where group creators have since left
and used non hosted awards/invites etc and no one will be able to change the existing scripts

I might be being perverse (again) here, but I don't personally see that as a problem.
Hee hee!
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Nionyn_ PRO says:

So, how many help forum pages do we think this'll run to? I think I'm going to have to go with eleven.
Are we only counting this particular thread, or are we including all the other threads of teeth-gnashing and wailing that will spring up when the change actually happens?
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Яick Harris PRO says:

"*goes to look for a gif of moran shooting himself in foot* "

I thought I'd save this in case you spell check, and in case it's not meant to be ironic.
Posted 54 months ago. ( permalink )

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Patrick Costello PRO says:

The Moran family aren't very good with firearms apparently
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PKMousie PRO says:

Well there goes all my fun.
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Roger in AZ PRO says:

Uh, it was done intentionally.

Guess you are totally unfamiliar with the "moran" meme, huh?



Hope I made a point.
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Robert_Edwards PRO says:

Excuse me, but uploading animated gifs isn't allowed. So, they won't be in one's stream to link to.

And please, folks, don't repeat the predictable "I don't see that as a problem..."
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It's just Mark PRO says:

So..In order for me to see Rodney's hilarious 3rd party GIF's, I'm going to have to click through?
So far,this seems like it's going to make my Flickr experience a lot less fun.
I didn't protest Flickr allowing video, which turned out to be crap, but I'm going to have to think about this new idea awhile......But I don't think I'm going to like it.
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RubyMae PRO says:

Bummer, dude.

As Brenda noted, you can still link to the third party site, it just won't load automatically. It will be up to the viewer to decide if they want to click through to view it.
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Tawnee Lynne Cowan PRO says:

I dislike the gif's but I dislike this even more
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jakerome PRO says:

So my one suggestion is to have an option to load all images at once (on each page). Most won't use it, but for folks like juvenile humor of animated catgifs, it makes it a little easier.
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Dorsetdunk says:

now if we had the feature to shrink all morans and their mangy cats to icon size and that goes for awards/invites too i would be happier still
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Redstaгt says:


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Dorsetdunk says:

god how annoying
thank you flickr for saving us from irritating people
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Redstaгt says:

Well, that's just your opinion which honestly nobody cares about...

You'll get no where in life with that attitude.
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Dorsetdunk says:


"Well, that's just your opinion which honestly nobody cares about..."

honestly ? LOL honestly ?

ummm.........obviously flickr cares as your animated gifs you find so entertaining will be blocked giving me the choice as to whether i want to look at crap or not

life is all about choice
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Skinny Bald Guy™ says:

Does Flickr allow uploading of .gif files ? Because I tried & it doesn't work.
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Pacdog PRO says:

Sorry JakeRome. You idea even though code able is not what is going to happen.. Staff will let this ROI go out to the masses then Flickr and the Help forum will break.. It will be fun for me to watch, but I'm sure many will "freak out"

I have $5 that bets they will freak out..

(they= Animated award groups)
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Pacdog PRO says:

No Flickr does not allow animated gifs to be uploaded to a user stream then actually work.. That would really tax the servers!! I said tax in a political month from hell! made me lol..
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Pacdog PRO says:

Does Flickr allow uploading of .gif files ? Because I tried & it doesn't work.

Yes.. Just animated gifs do not animate..
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PKMousie PRO says:

Seriously, I am so, so bummed about this.
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Brenda Anderson PRO says:

Yes, they do. This one is on Flickr and it animates.

phone-animated
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Redstaгt says:

Indeed life is about choice. Given the quality of your photographs I can only imagine the high volume of animated gifs that most certainly plague your flickr experience on a daily basis.

99% of all flickr photographs are garbage anyways, so nobody is here to look at photos.This is a huge step backwards for those who actively use the flickr community.


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Nionyn_ PRO says:

It might be worth mentioning (if I am correct about this) that so far most of those posting here who are unhappy with this change are ticked off about the effect it will have on posting external images in discussion threads, not about losing sparkly gifs in awards and comments on photo pages.

I could be wrong, of course...
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Blackbeard Ben says:

This is a huge step backwards for those who actively use the flickr community.

Spot on.


It might be worth mentioning (if I am correct about this) that so far most of those posting here who are unhappy with this change are ticked off about the effect it will have on posting external images in discussion threads, not about losing sparkly gifs in awards and comments on photo pages.

I could be wrong, of course...


Also spot on.

While sparkly award gifs are somewhat annoying, this new "feature" will go quite a long way towards stifling discussion regarding absolutely anything but photos located on this site.

At the same time, it will highly encourage people uploading images that are not their own to Flickr. Yes, that's against the rules, but guess what - people break them constantly already without any negative ramifications. This will only serve to worsen the matter.

What about an individual user setting to control loading of externally hotlinked images? Then those that want to see them can, and those that don't can keep them deactivated on everything they see. Perhaps that user setting could control both photo comments and discussion threads separately. That way you could avoid the sparkly award gifs on photos, unwanted non-Flickr photos/gifs in a group discussion thread, or both. It would all be your own choice.
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Nionyn_ PRO says:

What about an individual user setting to control loading of externally hotlinked images? Then those that want to see them can, and those that don't can keep them deactivated on everything they see. Perhaps that user setting could control both photo comments and discussion threads separately. That way you could avoid the sparkly award gifs on photos, unwanted non-Flickr photos/gifs in a group discussion thread, or both. It would all be your own choice.

I like that idea a lot. From a user's perspective it would probably keep everyone happy. Actually giving everyone a *choice*, and a worthwhile one at that.
I don't know how it would go with those who actually make the decisions here, though...
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Pacdog PRO says:

hehe...
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Pacdog PRO says:

It has been brought up in a few active groups I'm in that I support this new change.. I'm only saying I'm not a fan of award groups nor the awards they bestow on members photos. For me it is a annoying to go to a friends photo and want to read the comments just to have my puter lock up from so many animated gifs. The friends photo I like is a member of some award group which is fine as that is their choice, but it makes my experience much worse for having to see them animated gifs when all I wanted to do is see the photo and the comments that are meaningful.
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Wil C. Fry PRO says:

"No Flickr does not allow animated gifs to be uploaded to a user stream then actually work"

Yes, it actually does work. However, only Flickr pro accounts will have access to the original file. (Remember, anything other than the original will be a lifeless .jpg. Only the original will animate.)
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leesure PRO says:

What about an individual user setting to control loading of externally hotlinked images? Then those that want to see them can, and those that don't can keep them deactivated on everything they see. Perhaps that user setting could control both photo comments and discussion threads separately. That way you could avoid the sparkly award gifs on photos, unwanted non-Flickr photos/gifs in a group discussion thread, or both. It would all be your own choice.

Well said. Or just block them on photo comments, not group discussions, which are a very small percentage of the total 'offenses' and so have only a small effect on server load or page load times.

What I think Flickr fails to understand is that the thing that distinguishes them from the myriad of other places to which people can upload their photo is the Groups. Anything they do to diminish the experience in the groups will turn people away to other photo hosting sites or social media outlets. Rather than restricting the Group/Community experience, they should be enhancing it. Rather than making global choices for their members, they should be providing more choices at the individual or group admin level.
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RubyMae PRO says:

The more I hear about this the more I like it. Can't wait until this goes public.
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sirshannon says:

I say external images should be allowed in group discussions (sometimes that is the only thing worth seeing in the groups I visit) but anyone who posts a gif in a comment on one of my photos should have their flickr account deleted.
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Flickr Staff

Schill PRO says:

Regarding jakerome's comment about an option allowing all blocked images to load, I had considered this (alongside account preferences and other additional complexity), but we want to keep it simple: We want to discourage use of third-party images going forward, and this re-emphasizes that fact.

This said, it is quite feasible that someone could make a user script (or similar) which could do this work, scanning a page for blocked images and automatically loading them at the click of a button. This could be useful for viewing old pages on Flickr in some cases, for example.

It's important to remember that after this change, third-party image use will largely drop off the radar and it will no longer be a concern; the only inconvenience will be on older Flickr pages that still have them in comments. (We didn't want to just drop them in new comments and hide them from old ones with this new change, because it could mean a loss of context/story.)

In terms of the actual code, blocked (third-party) images will be <img> as normal, except they will include a css class name of blocked-image, and will also have a data-blocked-src attribute with the true (remote) source URL assigned.

For those wondering about animated .GIFs, etc.: Pro accounts can access original sizes, which means that Pro accounts can upload animated .GIFs and reference the original as inline images on Flickr.

A side debate could be had about the value of animated .GIFs at large, but let's save that discussion for another time. ;)

In regards to the various award/invite groups, this is a fixable problem. Many groups are already using images uploaded to Flickr, and so their image-based awards/invites won't be blocked. For groups who are using remote images, the admins will just need to update the template code on their group pages to use Flickr-hosted images.

For exceptional cases where you feel something of value would be blocked, particularly on profile pages, keep those coming. We're aware that BigHugeLabs is one people have asked for, for example.
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jakerome PRO says:

Gifbin for group discussion pages.
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Blackbeard Ben says:

It's important to remember that after this change, third-party image use will largely drop off the radar and it will no longer be a concern;

What will no longer be a concern and to whom?

Maybe no one cares about how a particular subset of users use Flickr, but like I said before - among those who post non-Flickr images to discussions, this new policy is going to either drive those people (like myself) off-site, or it's going to result in an increase in non-user-generated images on Flickr to which (IMHO) Flickr already has a poor track record in combating.

Again, I see no reason why this "feature" couldn't be made an option and to also separate photo comments from group discussions. To suggest that people should write a script instead (and that that would be okay) makes it seem as if a) Flickr does not mind the posting of off-site images and is only responding to user complaints, and b) Flickr is too lazy to consider or program this as an optional setting.
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edible_plum PRO says:

I don't get it, but then I'm not computer savvy.

I only have my photos on Flickr, and then embed (or used to be able to!) embed them in a plant/gardening forum where I've been a member for years. They're all my own photos.

All the other posters on the plant/gardening forum still are able to embed photos (maybe they're not on Flickr), but I want to be able to as well.

I don't know how to program/use HTML/write script.

I think this change is very unfair to my Pro subscription.
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jakerome PRO says:

So I guess it's good bye to Utata photo essays. To DMU's Post a Great Photo Here and so on.

And I agree with Lee above, let 'em stay in group discussions. The combination of the group landing page redesign and removal of external images removes so much of the character of groups that make them personal and fun. If someone told me my job was to suck the personality out of the remaining active discussion groups on Flickr & make sure no new ones arose, these are the actions I would take. That and ensuring that group discussions still didn't work well on mobile more than 5 years after the iPhone was released.

It's obvious which way the wind is blowing.
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ColleenM says:

@edible_plum

Nothing will change in how you use Flickr. You will still be able to embed your photos on your forum.

This change is not about embedding your photos on another site.

Nothing unfair has happened to you.
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Redstaгt says:

You do realize this will effectively kill half the fun of group discussions...

I don't understand what the "concern" is...nobody is going to miss sparkle motion gif comments/invites, that's not the argument. Really loving the fact that three years ago the flickr staff was ignoring their duties and now under new direction they're removing features that are a way of life in group discussions. Shame shame for thinking this was solving any sort of problem.

What a joke.
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Lú_ PRO says:

It's not looking like a goodbye based on the description - more like a need-to-click-through-occasionally.

But perhaps there could be an avenue through which groups that are using outside sites to illustrate discussions pertinent to things Flickr is about could make whitelist requests based not on popularity of the request but relevance and unlikelihood of spam/other problems resulting.

(The only examples I run across are Utata's discussions of non-Flickr photographers' work and some camera and processing group discussions, where samples off-Flickr are used.)
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jakerome PRO says:

Technically true, but as noted by Staff, it just won't happen. Why post an elaborate photo essay when the photos don't even load automatically. More likely those sorts of efforts will just be offsite with a link in the group. And that's likely where the discussion will follow.
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loupiote (Old Skool) pro PRO says:

Yes.. Just animated gifs do not animate..

yes, they do, but only if you link the ORIGINAL image.

resized versions of GIF's don't animate, but the original will (if you uploaded an animated GIF).
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Blackbeard Ben says:

resized versions of GIF's don't animate, but the original will (if you uploaded an animated GIF).

So this "feature" won't necessarily even fix perhaps the most annoying aspect of off-site images.

Yet it will do its best to diminish all of the wanted/good/entertaining aspects of them.

Hmmm...

I see no indication that Flickr is reversing the downward spiral it has been in for years.
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edible_plum PRO says:

@ColleenM

If "this change is not about embedding photos in another site", then how come this BBCcode stuff (which I've been able to rely on since the last time Flickr changed how images are "handled"), won't work today to post it on my gardening site?

[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/8095705983/][img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8095705983_1510570652.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/southslope/8095705983/]001[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/southslope/]edible_plum[/url], on Flickr

It now just posts an HTML link to the pic on Flickr.
Previously it embedded it in the gardening site so people could see the pic, not have to click.

Just a coincidence?
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ColleenM says:

edible_plum

The change hasn't happened yet, so it can't be causing your problem.
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