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my photos refuse to open in Aviary... is this also your experience?
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AVIARY www.aviary.com/
With Picnik's Demise, Aviary Brings Its Slick, HTML5 Photo Editor To Flickr’s 75 Million Users..by Leena Rao posted on Wednesday, April 4th, 2012 flic.kr/p/6cbJ4x
Some photos on this link showing how Aviary Photo Edit tool might look and work.. by Leena Rao.
techcrunch.com/2012/04/04/with-picniks-demise-aviary-brin...(TechCrunch)
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i click on edit and nothing happens... should I start missing Picnick?
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Maybe that's what's happening for those of us for whom Aviary has not been rolled out yet?
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jurek d. - Not got it here yet, but have you tried clearing your browser history and stuff ?
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Hello jurek d.,
Sorry for the confusion! We will look into the problem.
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@Scarlet Pimpernel: yes, cleaned everything there was to clean... nothing... but Flickr staff is looking (I hope) into the problem
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Hm. Neither the Actions nor Share menus work for me at all, not sure if this is related to the change in the Actions menu to reflect the the addition of Aviary, or something unrelated. I've cleared the cache, and tried it in Firefox, Safari and Chrome, and none of them work.
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Me neither - usability has taken a dive.
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Was just about to say the same as kmacgray
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Hello Ken,
We are aware of the Action and Share menu issue and it is not related to Aviary.
We are fixing it right now.
Thanks!
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I click on my Action button & nothing happens ? I have tried several photos , min. apart all with no luck ? This is new to me ! Am I the only one ? Thank you !
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Flickr had promised that Picnic would be available until the 19th of April? Is this no longer the case?
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 Thanks, I just spotted the topic for that issue:
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157629382802812/
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I click on edit with Aviary and nothing happens >>>> I am missing Picnick? already
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it's not working here either, just tried to edit a small batch of photos...sigh.
i'm really wishing there could be the choice to use picnik until the day it closes, like you have been warning us about. at least the option of choice between aviary and picnik, and without hassle is the least you could offer, don't you think?
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I have identified the problem and am working on a fix. We apologize for the wait. Thanks for the reports
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I assume we can still use Picnik until 19 April; we just have to open our pictures in the Picnik site.
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I just squashed the bug which you guys were reporting. Please clear your cache and try again. Sorry again, now go have some fun with Aviary
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I try to edit a photo through Aviary but it tells me "There's a glitch preventing us from authorizing Aviary on your account. Please try again in a little while."
I guess there's nothing I can do then?
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Cache cleared. There's some progress. I'm getting a message:
There was a problem connecting to Aviary. We should try this again a little later.
Before there had been no response.
Hope things will be improving...
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 and  Looks like we may be having some opening night jitters. May I ask what browser you are using?
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 I think you were to busy for this announcement. I never used Picnic. But I can understand people who work with this.
Please, members, wait for 19 April and there will be a change to Aviary.
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 Please, members, wait for 19 April and there will be a change to Aviary.
Do you have some inside info on Aviary, or are you quoting someone else? It's not clear.
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 I red that Picnic will stop working until 19 April and that Aviary will do the same after.
I have not change under the actions on my photos, it's still Picnic. And I'm only interested for the change for Flickr apps.
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I just tried to edit a photo. Picnic is gone and Aviary is now listed. But I get the message: "you will need to give Aviary access to your Flickr account, including private content, and give them permission to save your edited photos back to Flickr." I went into my settings for permissions and can not find how to add aviary. Any guidlines?
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Not everybody will get the change at once. Here is a quote from our blog post:
"We will roll the new editor out to people over the next two weeks starting this Thursday. If you don’t see it in your ‘Actions’ menu yet, check back in a couple days."
blog.flickr.net/en/2012/04/04/announcing-a-new-and-faster...
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/machado17/] All that you need to do is click the "Continue to Aviary" button on the bottom of that message. You should see Aviary open shortly after that.
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I went to try the new editing program and I cleared browser as well as the cache as I have read in the above messages . However , even after doing so I am continuing to get the message
"There is a glitch preventing us from authorizing Aviary on your account. Please try again in a little while."
Does anyone have any advice on what I should do now.. I am also using Crome
I am still able to use Picnik however I have to go to their website then save to my desktop as in my actions it no longer is offering Picnik as a editing choice
I clicked on the continue button but it continues not to allow me access
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Emily's post says that Flickr "are going to gradually roll out the shiny new edit tool to our members starting today" so some people will be access Aviary from now.
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 I understand all of this. And sorry, I expressed myself in broken English. But, I will fellow this thread, it's interesting.
Thanks for responses.
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Now getting so far before getting this msg >>>> There is a glitch preventing us from authorizing Aviary on your account. Please try again in a little while.
So will keep trying.
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I now have Aviary on my actions list but when I click on It It says there Is a glitch please try later .Been doing that for the last 2 hours ,( nice start )
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 and  We have reproduced the "There is a glitch" glitch on our end, which is the first step to getting it fixed. We will keep you posted.
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At least you're getting a nice set of bug reports.
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Okay, that "glitch" should be fixed. Please, if you were experiencing the problem, try opining the editor again after clearing your cache.
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I still don't have that option yet to edit with Aviary. I hope we get to use picnic for a few more days!
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I just noticed you have Aviary when I wanted to go to Picnik to experiment with some textures. I thought we would have Picnik to 19 April?
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 What they said was that Picnik was closing on the 19th and that they'd have something to replace it before it closed.
You can still use Picnik from its website until the 19th.
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Bottom line Aviary Is rubbish,not a patch on Picnik !
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I can get in to Aviary OK.
Can I just say I miss the Rotate function from Flickr (EDIT: just reread this--I meant Picnik, of course!) as it had a Straighten feature which was useful? I know we can rotate at Flickr, btw. It's the Straighten bit I will miss from Picnik (unless I am missing something at Aviary...).
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o.k. so fine rotating with the 'cross screen' is not in it that was the only thing I ever used in picknick so no option for my bird in this aviary ?
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I am still not finding anyone that addresses the issue of losing Picnic when it was supposed to remain available until April 19th. I am already finding Aviary extremely dissatisfying. The editing tools are gimmicky and the options are much too basic. Very unfortunate. Is there a way to reactivate Picnic until the April 19th deadline which had been promised?
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Just go to the Picnik site and open the pictures there.
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 I am still not finding anyone that addresses the issue of losing Picnic when it was supposed to remain available until April 19th.
See andyscamera's reply four replies above yours.
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I'm really disappointed with this. No straighten - no resize! Not a patch on Picnik but thats not the point is it? Its not up to Flickr standards - that's the problem. Come on folks - surely you can do better than this!
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I miss the fine rotating (straightening)also, I always used this on my pics. I also miss the different letter types...
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Problems, problems, problems. Nothing at my end works. I miss Picnik. I have a ton of photos to work on, a bit of time right now and what? Nothing works.
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its very very basic, nothing like as good as picnic, a massive step backwards
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basic for my needs. What about an undo button? I used that all the time in picnic. No undo or did I not see it.
I do kind of hope that this will continue to be expanded and worked on. I mean, after feedback and everything. Someone else mentioned no ability to resize. Thats important to me also.
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After trying this out I must agree with others and it is not at all to flickr standards.. My question then becomes why can we not get Picmonkey editor that is advertised on picniks website.. I have tried it out and it seems to be almost the exact thing as Picnik
www.picmonkey.com/
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No Undo button, I also miss this.
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Aviary doesn't even come close to the capabilities of Picnik.
What a total letdown.
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Aviary doesn't even come close to the capabilities of Picnik.
What is even sadder, is that it doesn't come close to any photo editing program I've ever used, whether online or offline, whether modern or 10 years ago.
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I agree with the above comment - more than disappointing - the orientation doesn't have a rotation - just flipping photos - and when I looked through the other "features", which are so minimal it only took 60 seconds, I was very disappointed -
I've been using flickr for years, and those of us who are paying just got defrauded of an important feature -
I could go on, but reading the other comments, I see that other members already have - flickr should take the time to read these comments -
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we need and UNDO button ... picnic until 19th April ... in good faith
I clicked on aviery ... to take a look ... now I am stuck with it it seems
and I do not like it ... it will not allow me to do what I did on picnic...
and now I am stuck ... I need to make awards for my groups ... what now ?
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Aviary is nothing more than a cheap phone app. It's very basic and unprofessional. Very disappointed with it.
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Yep  , 
Unfortunately Flickr is at the mercy of Google on this decision. Google bought Picnik in 2010 & intentionally rolled a lot of picnik's capabilities over into the Google+ "creative kit" which is only available to Google+ users. If you can believe it, this is Google's actual assbackward strategy to increase users.
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Yeah. I've got to agree with all the above comments. I tried using Aviary for a couple more photos and I'm going to miss a LOT more than just the Straighten feature from Picnik... Not impressed at all.
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Wil C. Fry Well said , Wil !
I looked at & tried Aviary over 2 years ago , and discarded it asap !
With all the great choices available , I'm stunned Flickr went with this one !!!!!!
PicMonkey is SO good , and getting better & better , almost a clone of Picnik,
can not believe it wasn't chosen :(
O well , just a few xtra steps to use PicMonkey , and just ignore the other !
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I don't like it.
Very basic, and more for people that don't know anything about editing photos. At all.
For one thing, Picnik completely disappeared from my menu.
It is NOT 19 April. Going to their website is not exactly the same thing.
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I agree PicMonkey is far superior to Aviary.
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For people looking for alternatives, there's PicMonkey and iPiccy, both of which are online editors, and both seem to be angling to pick up ex-Piknikers, or you could trade up to a proper offline editor with The GIMP, which would certainly take a bit of getting used to, but is massively capable, available on all three major desktop OSes, and free.
I wouldn't bother complaining to Flickr about how crap Aviary is though - they know that already; you're still getting stuck with it.
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I can't straighten my photos - this is shit or seems to be!!! I spend too much time on Flickr so this may be the answer - I'll give it a miss for a few weeks and then decide whether to leave altogether.
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I don't like either - as some have posted. Picnik was VERY user friendly - Avairy - not so much.
And more importantly, especially because of Pinterest, TEXT and FONTS are extremely important for photos to be blogged.... I'm not finding the fonts I regularly use to give my images (my brand) their recognition. I also don't see the ability to seeimage Before & After edits, to know whether to replace or save as new....
Is there another photo editing option like PicMonkey or iPiccy (which was actually closest to Picnik).
I thought Picnik was closing on April 19? Why did you change it earlier?? Why not offer both until then?
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Hey guys. I just notciced that according to aviary they do have a resize facility - it just has not been enabled on flickr. Is this true?
I note also that straighten is "planned" - when?
maybe time to give flickr a rest!
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What a huge let down... Aviary doesn't do 1/10 of what Picnik did...
Terrible.. now i am uploading to pickic's website.. editing there dowloading it back to my PC and uploading again to flickr...
until the 19th...
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NYCLQ wrote Is there another photo editing option like PicMonkey or iPiccy Well, there's PicMonkey and iPiccy, for starters. You can still use them, even without a handy link direct from your Flickr photo page.
Flickr still has its API interface, so there's nothing to stop these external editors integrating themselves with Flickr, and at least the iPiccy folks have said that they're planning to do just that.
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"Picnik completely disappeared from my menu.
It is NOT 19 April."
We said we would have a replacement to you by April 19th not on April 19th. Getting the new option going before April 19th is important just in case there are any unforeseen problems so there is still an onsite editing solution.
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Disappointed with Aviary compared to Picnik. Can we please have the straighten tool and some basic colour correction features.
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How can I change a photo to warmer or cooler tones?
How can I make a photo Sepia or B&W?
How can I straighten a horizon?
How do you use that feature with all the different colors?.....Nothing happens when I try!
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staff!
yes it is important of course to ensure problems are sorted out ...
but .. in all fairrness ... I think it fair to say .. we all naturally rightly or
wrongly ... expected picnic to be available up to the 19th ... and why
not ... ? to just replace well before the 19th ... without the option
to swap straight away or wait ... I do not think is fair especially when
you run groups and may be wanting to do some awards quickly
before picnic goes ... for me as a founder/admin of many groups...
is not good news ... I have looked at aviery ... and sorry .. It is not
a case of "getting used to it" it just does not offer what we are used to
on picnic ... sorry ... but I have to say this !
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Very disappointed with Aviary. I'm not thrilled with being forced to it ahead of time but I went ahead to try and quick edit a couple of photos. It's sub-par capabilities and a major step backwards. I guess I'll stick with an ancient copy of Paint Shop Pro which still works better than Aviary.
Oh, and it edited a couple of photos okay. Now it continually freezes when trying to save an edited photo.
I'm so disappointed in Flickr.
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it would be nice if i could actually TRY it. every time i try to launch it, it fails. not happy.
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I miss the options to straighten, resize and undo. I miss being able to see the size of the image in pixels.
These are the functions I used with almost every image.
Although I have a more powerful editor on my computer I can use before uploading to Flickr I feel even a simple editor should have these features.
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Sadly like most changes ... voicing our opinions does little to change
anything and I never thought I would say that here ... but I am afraid, I have to !
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No straighten is a big and surprising omission - a very poor substitute for the wonderful Piknick - we shall miss you!
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Hi Zack, 
Flickr gave no warning whatsoever that April 5th would be the last day to edit photos in picnik from the photostream. With all due respect, If getting the new option going before April 19th was so important and April 5th was to be the last day for picnik, Flickr should have said exactly that.
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Aviary lacks some important tools such a cloning, straighten. Without these advanced tools it's usefulness will be limited.
Aviary is not (at least not yet) the "shiny new edit tool" that flickr claims it is, rather it is dull and lifeless. I agree with poppiness, Aviary "is a major step backwards."
And why hasn't the question posed below and by others been answered?
Question:
Why has flickr shut out picnik a whole two weeks before picnik closes?
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Seriously? Picnik and Aviary do not even appear to appeal to the same consumer.
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Can i have Picnik back until the 19th when I was told it would be not available...I am not happy with the simplistic aviary... and will have to find something else ...
Can my options revert to picnik for now until 19th ?????
such a pain now that I have photos uploaded and will have to download in order to use picnik at google and then upload them again.... typical issues as usual...with flickr...
I want picnik back until the l9th despite the quick notice yesterday that some people may notice Aviary over the next few days...
Preferably not me and I find it rude, unprofessional and object..to being let down..
Flickr .... Grrrrrr
How on earth can flickr think that people happy with all the choices within picnik could possibly be happy with this tiny selection in Aviary...
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Seriously awful program. It doesn't even offer 10% of what picnik offered.
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Isn't Flickr frightfully embarrassed to add something like Aviary as it now stands...I would be running for cover if I had ever done something like this...which I wouldn't.
The ' problems ' are that it is pathetic..........
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I just tried to edit a photo and very disappointed!!
There is no frames,straighten tool and character(size) options on texting!!
Horrible program.
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Aviary does load significantly faster.
I would love to see better text options.
There's only one very narrow font ... no option for even bold or italics. No other fonts.
Can we also get an option on transparency/drop shadow. Many of us like to put an attribution on the photo itself, as so many people like to co-opt photos on the web. I can do it in Photoshop, but sometimes I want to do it on the fly with something I took on my phone.
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Flickr just gets worse, despite all talk to the contrary....
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To me, it doesn't matter that this switch happened today.
What does matter to me is what picnic has been replaced with. I just signed in and was like, "Oh, ok--here is the new editor."
But after checking it out, I have to say, Booooo!!
Really??! That's it??
Did everyone at flickr HQ seriously think this crumb would replace the buttery slice of whole wheat toast that was picnic?
Like someone said above,
Aviary just seems to be a really basic phone editor app.
I was a Very Heavy picnic user
and this replacement is a Huge letdown
--and that's putting it lightly.
And I just renewed my pro account earlier this morning--
so I can only pray that there are waaaaay more features
added to Anorexic Aviary.
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I about fell over when I read Flickr's condescending "intro to Aviary" blog post by Georges Haddad. Editing on Flickr should be simple and fun. With the Aviary editor, beginners will find that there’s almost no learning curve ...
Obviously since picnik is a Google product, Flickr cannot do anything about its demise. However -- using lowdown patronizing language to pitch a substandard replacement reveals just how much Flickr underestimates the capabilities and expectations of its core subscribers.
Major fail Mr. Haddad.
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I have a large blog that's photo based. I keep my photos on Flickr and when I need a photo to use, I can search thru my Flickr archives and find the right one(s). Sometimes those photos need a quick edit -- straighten, clean up sensor dust bunnies, perhaps a crop. I would use Picnik in lieu of finding the file on my hard-drive, firing up Photoshop, fixing it, then having to re-upload to Flickr. Picnick streamlined the process saving SEVERAL steps and it's the main reason why I've stayed with Flickr. If I'm going to have to do all my editing with Photoshop anyway, there's really no reason to stay with Flickr anymore (I have an account at SmugMug which I like better for nearly all other purposes except for my blog).
Aviary is one of the worst photo editing programs in terms of features that I've ever seen. It looks like something that would have been considered "cool" and "high tech" circa 1995. Maybe great if all you do is upload low resolution snapshots from your camera phone, but to even offer or pretend this is a viable option for anyone who views photography with any level of seriousness is insulting. I'm more than a little ticked that I signed up for another year of Flickr a few weeks ago.
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Just wondering... Why no staff response to this valuable feedback? It would seem your consumer base will only become more anxious and negative in their appraisals without some staff interaction.
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Agree with the above... I am still P ********
How could anyone possibly describe this, as they did, as Exciting... it is next to useless unless you want to press buttons on your phone in the dark and not care about choices for decent photo and artwork
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Guys, Aviary is awful and dumb.
You know I love Flickr.
And I love messing with my photos.
This is unbelievable and embarrassing.
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I am unable to Save a photo after editing.
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Why didn't you just keep Picnik? Aviary doesn't even come close....its for the birds. :-(
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Aviary is Total Rubbish. Where's the straightening tool? I need to straighten my images as well as rotate them.
Since joining Flickr 3 years ago each attempt at improving the user experience has resulted in a series of retrograde steps. This so called "exciting new change" tops the lot. What a disgrace Flickr.
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Why didn't you just keep Picnik?
Google bought and closed it; that's really not Flickr's fault.
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Wow. Pure JUNK. I was looking forward to working on my photos at the end of a long and stressful day. You got rid of a easy to use photo editor (granted out of your control) but instead of replacing it with something near the same quality you are trying to shove phone app TOY down our throat and tell us it's better as we choke.
Yes I can go and take my images and work on them somewhere else before uploading them but come renewing time will my membership price stay the same (or even go up?) with less features now?
Are you listening to us or are you just going to go the Google road and do what you want anyway?
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Anyone have an idea how to keep using Picnik until April 19?
It's been removed from my actions menu. Although Picnik.com is still active it only allows uploading a single image at one time - very time intensive.
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I'm very not happy about all that!
I don't like Aviary. I'm very mad about yahoo.
And what next? Closing Flickr maybe...
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