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abiding industry says:

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Hairlover says:

When you were booted from Flickr, the longest-serving member was automatically promoted to admin. You can try emailing the new admin, and asking him / her to promote you to admin. Otherwise, you may want to consider starting a new group.

As for question 4, Flickr staff have said:

Linking to adult websites in your profile or photostream.
Flickr reserves the right to terminate your account without warning at any time.

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RubyMae says:

That's not from the community guidelines, though. Where does staff say that? (The linking to adult websites portions, that is)
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Hairlover says:

I found the quote in AFM

www.flickr.com/groups/unsafe/discuss/72157607647884037/#c...

It's 30 months old and the link to the source is broken.
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abiding industry says:

wow thanks for the quick response.

yeah i've emailed the elected admin but they haven't replied yet.
i'm hoping they do because my blog is of the same name and this may cause some confusion as the group no longer represents me.

i couldn't find anything in the community guidelines or terms and conditions where it says that you're not allowed to post links to websites containing nudity.

regardless if flickr staff have stated it, surely it has to be within the terms and conditions or community guidelines to count as a legitimate reason to delete an account?

excuse my ignorance but what does AFM mean? haha.

thanks
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Hairlover says:

AFM = Adult Flickr Members. It's an excellent resource for helping people make and keep their accounts secure.
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abiding industry says:

thanks. i'll take a look

do you agree that it is not stated in the community guidelines
or terms and conditions?

and therefore the reason for having my account deleted is unfair?

just wondering....
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Hairlover says:

The CG and TOS are purposefully vague, to discourage people from gaming the system. Flickr forbids links to adult sites to reduce the likelihood anyone clicking on the link will be exposed to objectionable material. While on Flickr, the member's Safe Search settings will provide a measure of protection. However, away from Flickr, those settings have no effect.

On most adult sites, a visitor will be given a description of the site and asked if they wish to continue. A link to a blog, for example, may not have these safeguards.
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abiding industry says:

i agree with your point. but it kind of misses my point.
where abouts does it state that flickr forbids links to adult sites. because i've scowered the entire site and i can't find a thing.
surely if it isn't stated then it can't be used a reason to delete an account?

i know that the guidlines for moderating photos are very vague (something that i completely disagree with by the way) and i understand this is to give flickr a lot of leeway.
ebut i can't even find a vague reference let alone a rule with regards to posting links to sites containing nudity.

just for the record the link i posted was to my blog that was a music, photography and film website not a porn website. because of the nature of photography and film it happened to contain nudity.
just wanted to make that clear incase you thought i was a weirdo or somthing haha.

do you see what i'm getting at?
thanks
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Stevekin says:

Your first three questions are now somewhat irrelevant. The group no longer exists I'm afraid.
Perhaps it was deleted by the incoming admin or by Flickr.
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abiding industry says:

great. i really do hate flickr. i just wish there was another platform that was as popular that didn't run their company like colonel gaddafi.
it's more than likely it was deleted by flickr because the new admin was a frequent submitter to the group.
flickr don't really seem to care who they delete anyway. it would be a lot more helpful if the community guidelines were clear.
oh well, f**k flickr, they won't see another penny from me, im outta here.
thanks for everyones help
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The Searcher says:

"it's more than likely it was deleted by flickr because the new admin was a frequent submitter to the group."

What does that mean? In what context would Flickr care if an admin was posting to their own group, much less delete the group over it?

it's ok if you want to be pissy over the loss of your photostream, but inventing hyperbolic random wrongs to justify your enmity isn't really going to accomplish anything. Except lose whatever sympathy people may have had for an apparently weak reason for an account deletion. Now I just assume you made up the reason for your account deletion as well, and were deleted for something more obvious.

Hopefully wherever you end up won't be run by someone responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands, like this site, according to you, apparently is.
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IrenicRhonda says:

I think he meant that as the new Admin liked the group, he was unlikely to be the one deleting it, therefore it must have been Flickr
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The Searcher says:

Ah, well now that makes more sense. But then it begs the question of what content/behavior was in the group that would have led to its deletion? And was the OP guilty of posting the same content?
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The Searcher says:

Also going by the tumbler blog of the same name, it appears the OP did make up why he thinks his account was deleted (on the blog he says he as no idea).

But if he made similar death threats to staff and their families here that he did there, that might do it.
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abiding industry says:

thankyou IrenicRhonda, that's exactly what i meant. i thought that was pretty obvious.
to say that i made up the reason for why my account was deleted is ridiculous. what have i got to gain from doing that?
i didn't mean that flickr is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands. it was a metaphor used to point out that flickr seemingly rules with an iron fist. if disagree that's fine but many people have complained about their accounts being deleted unfairly or without a justified reason.
and to be honest i wasn't looking for sympathy i just wanted to see if people agreed with my point.
calm down searcher, no need to get your knickers in a twist. anyone would think that you secretly work for the flickr police.
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IrenicRhonda says:

Yup. Death threats would do it.
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abiding industry says:

HAHAHA!! those comments where made after my account got deleted but before i recieved an email from flickr.
anyway im gonna love you and leave you. and i dont give a f ck what you say because after this post i ain't gona read it! goodbye c nt
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kmacgray says:

And Jimmy Gerrard has left the building...
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The Searcher says:

"many people have complained about their accounts being deleted unfairly or without a justified reason."

Many people have complained that they got caught speeding or breaking and entering, too. Few of those who complain seem to be justified, though. Which makes cry-wolf calls all the more damaging for those folks who have legitimate issues with legitimate failings from Flickr staff. I have no problem calling Flickr out when they screw up.

I just have a problem when all the noise from those who likely know exactly what they did wrong, drowns out those who were actually caught in a bind.

Similarly, using a metaphor comparing a gripe with a photo site to a megalomaniacal murderous dictator does nothing to keep your issue in perspective, and only serves to demonstrate a possibly too high level of self importance. But since I know people directly who have lost loved ones in both Egypt and Libya, perhaps I'm a bit oversensitive on the hyperbole.

I don't know why you'd make up a reason to put blame for your account deletion on Flickr instead of yourself. Why does anyone? All I have to go on is your statement on your blog directly contradicts your statement here. But maybe you got more recent info prior to posting here, so that's awesome if so. And would brings things back to the reason for your account to go is a bit weak, as Flickr has both come out allowing links to external blogs, and never clearly stating in the guidelines a ban on links to blogs with adult content.

However the death threats, all in happy fun or not, still don't help you.

All that said, you have a great eye, the blog is awesome.
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Terrence P says:

Our privacy policy prevents us from discussing the reason for Flickr account deactivations but we did respond to the OP and they did not feel compelled to share the full response that they had received from Flickr staff.

URL links/watermarks to adult websites/blogs or websites/blogs that have unmoderated "moderate"/"restricted" content on the landing page are not allowed on Flickr and we do send out warnings in most cases to members so that they can make the necessary corrections to their Flickr accounts. Hairlover summed things up nicely on the reasoning for disallowing such links.
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RubyMae says:

I don't suppose there's any chance Flickr might want to actually include that in the Community Guidelines, since it does seem to be a firm rule (don't like to adult websites/blogs or websites/blogs that have unmoderated "moderate"/"restricted" content).
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Terrence P says:

@RubyMae, the Flickr ideas forum is the best place for that suggestion but I will pass it along to the rest of the Flickr team.
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