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[Closed redirected, Official Topic] Stats for pro members

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heather says:

We've launched stats for pro members (read the announcent).

Important things to note:

1) Once you activate your stats we need to "bake" your data. We're dealing with a bunch of raw numbers that need to be processed. Depending upon the volume and activity it could take up to a day.

2) Your stats will eventually be a rolling 28 day window. At launch, we have two and half weeks of data available (so don't think you were flat lining a couple of weeks ago).

The full poop about stats is available in the FAQs.

* * March 16, 2009 Update: We have made a few changes to Stats and have started a new topic. For continued feedback please let us know at the over here.
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austenhaines says:

While its provcessing and says come back tomorrow, can i turn my computer off without having to restart the process tomorow?

:-)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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jshook says:

Where will the link appear that gets you to the stats page?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_ says:

Okay, this is *VERY* cool.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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heather says:

jshook, It's in the "You" menu under "Your Favourites"
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Myles! says:

jshook: Look for the "Your Stats" link under the "You" menu. Alternatively, you can visit www.flickr.com/photos/me/stats/

*edit* Hi Heather!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Linus Gelber says:

Cool. Like, very.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dunstan says:

jshook, each of your photo pages also has a link to the stats for that particular photo.

You can find it in the right hand column just above the "Viewed XX times" bit of text.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM says:

What fun! I'm loving it already! So much better than "interestingness".
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Linus Gelber says:

It's an early impression, of course, but this looks like a really nice roll-out. Well done, y'alls.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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mortimer? says:

Ho, it took less than a minute for me, cool :)

It's good to finally see new feature coming out more frequently now.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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foreverdigital says:

SO SO SO happy. THANK YOU!

please make the "under construction" image not ugly! :)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_ says:

Just dropping back in to say that this is *really* awesome. It's especially interesting to see how Yahoo image searches play into things -- and nice to be able to track some blog links! You guys rock, very hard.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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heather says:

please make the "under construction" image not ugly! :)

*Gasp* We're calling back to our internet forefathers.... Or, think of it as the ghost of the "ugly dog on the green carpet" come for a visit.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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-Nicole- says:

Wow, very cool. And really interesting some of those numbers :-) This does rock!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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mortimer? says:

this "under construction" image made me laught, it's a great memory :D

Would it be difficult to break down the Flickr referrers to have stats on the groups where the visitor comes from?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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peteshep says:

Wow. A picnik in the sun, and now stats. It must be Christmas!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson says:

Okay, how many different 'under construction' gifs do you have ?? I've seen 4 already... yes, I'm impatient! LOL. :)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Linus Gelber says:

Mortimer, it's already there - click on Flickr.com in the referring list, and it breaks down into amazing detail.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Silly Luis says:

Fine! And it took barely 2 minutes to appear.Now I know for sure that almost none ever see my photos :-)))
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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amanky says:

mine's still thinking... didn't get in quick enough I guess *shrug*
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Hammond says:

amanky: did you push the "activate me" button yet? I'm not seeing you in the queue...
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Mary Hockenbery (reddirtrose) says:

thanks - this is a great feature and much appreciated
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Ric e Ette says:

Wow, thanks a bunch for the feature!
Can't wait till tomorrow to see the good stuff... :-)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Linus Gelber says:

Do you want to hear about odd results here? Like if I have a photo that tells me that on one of its days it had 0 views and 9 comments? Because how could it get comments if no one saw it?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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dan tsai says:

wow, this is absolutely awesome. Thanks, folks!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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factoids says:

Baking the stats only took about 10 minutes for me! Thank you for this awesome feature! ;-)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Hammond says:

Linus: Yes! Please tell us about any bugs or weird things you see.

Which photo is it that you see problems with? I'll take a look in the databases and see if anything weird is happening
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Linus Gelber says:

Paul, it's this one: www.flickr.com/photos/linus/2081360788/

I was just poking around and thought it was odd that all the comments came on a day with no views. The comments did come all at once - it was posted to the Guess Where NYC group, and there were a couple of people guessing.

Edit: Check the daily graph listing for Dec. 2 to see the odd result.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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dopiaza says:

Like if I have a photo that tells me that on one of its days it had 0 views and 9 comments? Because how could it get comments if no one saw it?

You can comment via the API, which will result in no views. Apps like photophlow can cause strange looking patterns like that.

[Edit: but that doesn't look like the case here]
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
dopiaza edited this topic 91 months ago.

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Stevekin says:

Linus Gelber...had their eyes closed ?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:

Will you be able to see referrers from everywhere on Flickr, eg. private groups that you're not a member of?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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dartar says:

Sweet, thanks for this nice addition.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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SublimeImage says:

Very cool, thanks Flickr!
:-)

EDIT TO ADD: I have been digging around looking at referrers and when I clicked on one of the links my virus scan alerted to a Trojan. Thought people should know that some outside links you click on could be malicious. Be careful!

(staff, i have the URL to the Trojan if you need it)

Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
SublimeImage edited this topic 91 months ago.

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Mags_cat says:

Went away for a week and came back to this! It does good things for my inner nerd. Thank you, thank you, thank you :)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dunstan says:

♥ shhexycorin ♥, yes, you should see referrers from everywhere.

You obviously won't be able to access a private group if you're not a member of it, but you'll see the incoming link in your stats.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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AMDM - photography says:

Fantastic feature Flickr !
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:

Cheers, Dunstan, that's cool and as expected, thanks.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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foreverdigital says:

please make the "under construction" image not ugly! :)

*Gasp* We're calling back to our internet forefathers.... Or, think of it as the ghost of the "ugly dog on the green carpet" come for a visit.


haha okkk okkk. I guess a little nostalgia never hurt anyone. As long as the flickr logo doesn't turn into an animated, blinking, glittering gif. I'll be happy. (don't get any ideas for april fools day now!)

still - stats are AWESOME.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson says:

I never realised that the majority of my views come from search engines and not Flickr! :)

Now, any way to know which sets/collections were viewed yesterday? I can see that they were, but not which ones.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:

Any chance you could also sort the referring pages by the referring page?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae says:

I'm certainly not one to turn down a "free feature" (well, it comes with the pro package, so it's not like I have to pay extra) but I must say, I just don't get the fuss. It's not like we get a prize or cash bonus for "best stats." And I haven't yet figured out how to make money by having a popular photostream (I'm not a pro-photographer), so I don't really care much who looks at my photos or not.

Oh well, I'm sure much like Explore, I'll forget about the feature until someone starts a thread in the Help Forum or FC complaining about how unfair "stats" are and how it proves that Yahoo is evil.

But kudos to flickr staff for giving (almost all) the flickr users what they've asked for. :-D
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dunstan says:

Brenda Anderson: "any way to know which sets/collections were viewed yesterday?"

Not at the moment, no. We are collecting the data though, so look for that functionality in future versions.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wooble says:

The FAQ is lying; "All Time" clearly goes back further than 28 days before I enabled stats.

Was this meant to apply just to free account holders who upgrade? As it's written, it seems to apply to everyone.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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heather says:

The FAQ is lying; "All Time" clearly goes back further than 28 days before I enabled stats.

We'd like to think of it as an error than a "lie". We need to update that to the correct info that it does go back to all time.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Soubrause says:

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Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
Soubrause edited this topic 91 months ago.

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GustavoG says:

When computing the various stats, are all self-views excluded as usual? (e.g. for counting referrers etc.)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Hammond says:

Thanks for pointing this out Wooble - yes, the FAQ needs updating.

There's actually 2 different "all times", depending on what data we're talking about.

We started recording data for views on photos and photostreams sometime in 2004.

For detailed information on where people came from ("referrers"), we started recording the data a few weeks ago, but we won't be keeping it forever for non-pro accounts or people who haven't activated their stats.

We'll be adding tooltips to the pages to give the exact dates for your account, once I've finished trying to work out what went wrong with Linus Gelber's photo!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Hammond says:

GustavoG: Yep - the same rules that apply to the existing view counter on your photo page apply to these new stats, so we ignore self views.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Skink74 says:

Oh man! How am I going to get any work done now? Being the stats loving nerd that I am this is a goldmine! Thanks!

It's just a pity the data doesn't go back a bit further - a pic of mine got ~1500 views in a couple of hours after uploading back in the summer but has had virtually nothing since and I've never managed to work out what caused the spike.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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jshook says:

Found the links and this looks really cool. Thanks for this!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wooble says:

Soubrause
True, but the only time the phrase "all time" is used in the actual stats is in the columns with your actual all time data.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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jshook says:

The "all photos..." link is unbelievable! WAY too much information but I'm not complaining :-)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Stevekin says:

Must....move...away....from....the....stats....page.
Need food....send help :/

Great fun, thanks Flickr :-)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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_mpd_ says:

Still waiting for mine to sync up (just activated), but as a Google Analytics Statistics junkie already, I'm really happy to see this.

Thanks!

update: Updated quick! That totally rocks, especially seeing the intra-flickr referrers and individual referer URLs at various sites. Awesome.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
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Kyudos says:

Cool...crunched the numbers in a few minutes (cause I don't have so many numbers). But very cool nonetheless.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lars Pohlmann says:

"good news everyone..."

they really are.

and for the "construction worker": i *love* him. he's sooo web 1.0 ;-)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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birdyboo says:

My gosh! That is an amazing feature!! Kudos and cheers!
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Linus Gelber says:

Paul - Heh. Glad I can keep you busy. Here's something: the photo was posted on December 2, but my first data node for stats is listed as December 1. Could that be something to do with it?

Of course, how the database would be slipping up on dates is a whole nother thing. Maybe some sort of rogue 0 record that's carrying empty data into the fields?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Fiddybobiddy says:

I've activated my stats today. Query: will my stats be visible to the general population or just to me?
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Paul Hammond says:

FiddybobiddyFiddy: Just you (and if need be flickr staff trying to work out why your graph is wrong!)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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jade_c says:

Something's buggy on the most viewed photos yesterday page. The "this week" column is zero, when there are numbers listed in the "views yesterday" column.

Strange thing is the problem doesn't appear if you click the sort by links.

In short, this page has weird numbers, but this and this seem fine.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
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Brenda Anderson says:

Yes, I see that as well (views this week is 0 for all photos on the Yesterday list)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Slightlynorth says:

I just want to say THANK YOU for adding stats! W00t!
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Paul Hammond says:

Linus Gelber: It should be fixed now. The data for Dec 1st was part of the same problem. Thanks for pointing it out.

jade_c / Brenda Anderson I'm seeing that too on my stats, and looking into it now.
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Linus Gelber says:

Whee! Thanks back.
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Andreas. says:

Wowo, I like the stats! :) And it also calculated quite fast for me too, less than 3 mins. Updates seems in (near?) realtime for single photo stats. :)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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oledoe says:

Mucho cool!

How about stats for sets? Just wondering.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Hammond says:

oledoe: we're collecting the data, so look for it soon...
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iansand says:

Forgive my ignorance, but what does "Direct Traffic" mean?
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dathan says:

oledoe: We are collecting stats for Sets, (what Paul mentioned), and collections, as well as photo stream views.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson says:

What timezone are you using for the stats?? I have photos viewed/commented on yesterday (Dec 13th, 15 hours ago), but my "Yesterday stats" are empty. Looks like Yesterday = Dec 12,... but that's the day before yesterday. :)

Here's an example: www.flickr.com/photos/curiouskiwi/3088814/stats/

My recent activity says 'favorited 15 hours ago' but the Stats page says no activity yesterday.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
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dathan says:

Brenda A. All time for stats is in UTC
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Brenda Anderson says:

Ah. So my stats will always be at least 12 hours out. Ok.

You might want to mention that somewhere in the FAQ, or change it from 'yesterday' to 'previous day' or something. So does that mean that at midnight UTC, my 'yesterday' will be updated?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
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Zack Sheppard says:

The FAQ with an error that Wooble mentioned has been updated. :)
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Paul Hammond says:

iansand: Good question. "Direct Traffic" is hits on your photo that don't have a referrer. This means someone has either typed the url in directly, or clicked on a link in another program on their computer (eg, email client, news reader etc). As a result, we don't know where they came from.

It's so easy to forget we're using jargon sometimes...
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Walwyn says:

Excellent.
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matt says:

Paul Hammond: we're collecting the data, so look for it soon...

Like, right now, because I can see aggregated view counts for sets and collections on my brand-new stats page.

Nevermind - I see reading all the way back that the question was about individual sets, not aggregate data. Here I was going "wow, that was fast."
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )
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iansand says:

Paul Hammond So that would include an RSS feed of a group, for example?
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Paul Hammond says:

Brenda: Yep, sorry about that. It's annoying for us on the west coast of America too, but it's just too expensive to record the time of every hit as well as the date.

At least the Brits are happy...
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Brenda Anderson says:

matt wrote

Like, right now, because I can see aggregated view counts for sets and collections on my brand-new stats page.
The aggregates have been there from the beginning. I'm looking for breakdown per set/collection. :)
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Brenda Anderson says:

Paul Hammond wrote

It's annoying for us on the west coast of America too
Why would it be annoying if you are behind UTC? You'll see 'yesterday' and it will actually be today's stuff. I won't see stuff until tomorrow for photos viewed yesterday, if you get what I mean.
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Paul Hammond says:

iansand: Yes, if the RSS feed is being viewed in something like NetNewsWire or FeedDemon.

If someone is using a web based reader (say, my.yahoo.com, google reader, bloglines etc) then you'll see the name of the news reader in the referrers.

We still don't know which feed the hit came from though. If we had that info, we'd show it to you...
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iansand says:

Paul Hammond What about someone viewing on a Guest Pass? I'm not particularly worried - just curious. A couple of my recent photos have a high proportion of Direct Traffic (like 3 out of 6 - woohoo) and I was wondering what it meant.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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austenhaines says:

Really cool stats. A lot of info to keep me happy all night long.

Thanks

(a little worrying that 3 people this week found one of my photos by searching for toilets! LOL)
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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matt says:

Quick question: any chance of some of this information being exposed via the API?
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Hammond says:

Brenda: oh, yes, i see what you're saying. It's definitely more annoying for you than me. Sorry about that.

In other news, the bug with the "this week" column on the "Your most viewed photos" page should now be fixed. Thanks jade_c and Brenda for pointing it out.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson says:

The FAQ says it updates once per day. Is that based on the very first time you updated (ie, mine was Last updated: 7:39AM, 14 December 2007 NZDT). So does that mean it will be updated tomorrow at the same time? And at that point, I'll be able to see activity from Dec 13th?
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Paul Hammond says:

iansand: Again, it depends. The first click (when they click on the guest pass in their email) will be direct traffic because we won't know where the click came from. From then on, they'll be clicking between pages on flickr, so the referrer will be "flickr.com". We're not tracking whether someone is using a guest pass or not.

I think (but don't know for sure) that the most likely source of direct traffic on recent photos is people using RSS feeds to keep up with their contacts photos.

Matt: We were wondering how long it would take to ask that question! We're definitely thinking about it.

Brenda Hate to say it, but it depends. We start at about 1am GMT, but it can take a while to get through everyone's stats.
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson says:

Paul Hammond wrote

but it depends.
Okay, just wondering if it was tied to the very first update, or was more of a rolling thing.

I never thought I'd find this so interesting. Thanks! :)
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taka_itaha says:

Thank you. You made me happy.
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matt says:

Matt: We were wondering how long it would take to ask that question! We're definitely thinking about it.

Well, Paul, if I could add a bit to your deliberations (and hopefully I'll say at least one thing you haven't already discussed), the two things I'd be particularly keen on seeing and don't strike me as impossible to provide would be:
• the aggregate view counts, parameterised by what's shown (day, week, last week, all time).
• the aggregate referrers list (i.e., Flickr/Search Engines/Other/Direct, which has a neat acronym: FSOD.)

The other one I'd like just as much, but can imagine problems arising with providing it, would be the individual referrers list. Seems it could get rather long and unwieldy.

A compromise to the full referrers list that would be 99% as good as the entire thing might be referrals from within Flickr, either a full list, or an aggregate "pools/discussions/tags/contacts/sets/etc" list.

I'd also like to add that the stats are super-cool, and that you should archive the 'activate me' page somewhere so that I can look at it later for a laugh. It was brilliant.
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Michael Smith says:

Oh goodness. I'm nerdy enough as it is, without this, But it is very cool - thanks!
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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:

which has a neat acronym: FSOD

Flickr's Screen of Death!?
:(
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Chrisser says:

After waiting for what looked like heavy equipment doing some digging, I get the Under Construction graphic. But overall, another great item for Pro accounts. :-)

EDIT - I didn't do a browser cache clearing and when I went to the tab of the stats link that was in the info of one of my photos, the Under Construction graphic was gone and was displaying stats of my photos, including comments, posting to other members' Favorites, geotagged photos, and tags on photos, along with totals of photos in groups and not in groups and views of my photos.
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elementalPaul says:

I like this a lot. As if flickr wasn't addictive enough already!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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AliThinks says:

Very cool. Thanks so much!
Posted 91 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson says:

matt wrote

would be the individual referrers list.
Do you mean something other than what you get now if you click the referrer name?
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rakerman says:

Cool stuff - another new Internet addiction :(

Ideas for attributes and charts displays:

- photos vs screenshots vs art/illustraion
- creative commons vs traditional copyright
- ability to view where just your Creative Commons photos have been linked / blogged from (hooray, people are using my content!)
- ability to view where just your traditional copyrighted photos have been linked / blogged from (boo, people are stealing my content!)
- analysis of average hits on CC photos vs. traditional copyrighted one (i.e. do CC photos get more traffic?)
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Steve Rhodes says:

You can get a sense of what sets are being viewed by clicking on flickr.com under domain.

It would be great to have an easy way to see all the photos which were viewed in the last day or week (and perhaps eventually month).

One interesting thing for overall flickr design is a way to highlight collections better if you feature sets instead of collections on your main page.

My stats are pretty similar to Scott's (though not as much traffic). Lots of set views, but almost no collection views

www.flickr.com/photos/laughingsquid/2109391956/

It seems that people may not be drawn to the collections link next to sets

flickr.com/photos/ari/sets/72157600248422579/

Perhaps some sort of visual representation would help.
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crazyinthenight says:

Ahhh, great. Now I know for sure my photos don't get any attention on the net. ;-) Generation only took a few minutes.

I don't like the revised "additional information" section on each photo page. Appears to be a bit scattered to me. Maybe arrange them by other visual means than empty lines?
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