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Can't see any images (China June 7th 12.30pm) 中国-看不见图片

NowJustNic says:

All photos and buddy icons are little red crosses. Anyone else?

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Update from Flickr staff (10:00 PDT, June 7th) : It seems that access to our image servers is being blocked for users in much of China. Our technical staff has looked into this at depth and determined this is not a technical issue from our end. We will keep an eye on the situation and update if we get any developments.

Update from Flickr staff [2] (01:00 PDT, June 8th) : We are checking periodically to see if the block is still in place, but haven't detected any change. We hope that this is a temporary issue and we currently believe that it will be. In the meantime, we are investigating our alternatives. Thank's for your patience.

Update from Flickr staff [3](11 June 23:30 PDT): We know images from Flickr are still blocked and definitely care very much about our friends who cannot access pictures. We have been contacting people to hopefully get a positive resolution with restoration of photos, but this of course has not happened yet. The Flickr team is very sorry for this continued issue and will update you when we have more to share.
Posted at 9:37PM, 6 June 2007 PDT ( permalink )
Kevin (staff) edited this topic 83 months ago.

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Chad Ingraham says:

still nothing for me here in shanghai. This is bull...
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lim CK says:

Still blank in Beijing... driving me nuts...
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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maruchin says:

Yesterday (6/27) was still working fine in the daytime using Firefox + plugin, in the evening couldn't access my photos, but the title page worked. In the morning all black-out, but came back on and off. Forum was partly not accessible, especially these threads about the current issue. Now it seems to work fine again in Shanghai (6/28 @ 4 p.m.) :-)
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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dorafang says:

i am in HK and happily reunited with my pics without the "china filter". let's hope the rumors are true,and that we get flickr back in china....

D
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Kris// says:

Thats what happens when the commies are in power, *sigh*.

I hope you guys get access back.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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dorafang says:

can someone in mainland china verify that access has been restored? otherwise, i will plan on doing more stuff here in HK while i can see images.
thx
D
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

Access has not been restored in Mainland China.

And I would appreciate if Flickr staff would update a little better on the situation ... and what exactly they are doing to solve the problem.

Some of us are customers who are paying ... and even though the issue may not be the fault of Flickr, they still have a responsibility towards us. Especially feedback!

So Flickr staff, what exactly are you doing to resolve this matter with the Chinese government?
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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venture160 says:

I am moving to Flickr and just renewed my account. I am an origional Beta user and would love to continue using this awesome webpage. What is flickr doing to work through this problem? Who are you talking to in China?
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Canopus Archives says:

Flickr has no control or influence over censorship issues in China as according to China none exist and there is no Great Firewall of China. If you study the Topics on the China issue you will see several work-around solutions posted.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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༺lifemage༻ says:

It's important to understand just how 'business' is taken care of here in China.....

In service to the flickr community (in China) and to all flickr staff. I will be delivering 100 cartons of 'Double Happiness' cigarettes, 50 bottles of baijui, many translated copies of Bill Clinton's book "My Life" and a large basket of fruit, to several high level CPC officials over a hot-pot dinner,( followed by a full service KTV experience). After a couple smokes, a few ganbei's, a bit of Michael Bolton and The Carpenters, and a barely dressed lady on each guys arm, I'm SURE access will be restored.

Can't believe the Flickr guys haven't done this already!?!?!
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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no direction says:

Of course the communists don't allow you to search for the ugly side of their power.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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dorafang says:

argh. disappointing. so what happens if i'm a paid member with 9000+ pics and cant see ANY of them when i get back to beijing? do i get my money back and my orig res pics on a CD.....................ha!

so, flickr, what ARE you doing?

D
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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no direction says:

That's why you Mainlander need to overflow your government. If Hong Kong weren't ruled by the Brits before, you wouldn't have been able to access to flickr in there.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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no direction says:

Now the communist party even expand their censorship to Hong Kong in the form of hackers. Hong Konger couldn't access to sensitive websites about 1st July demonstration yesterday.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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ruinix says:

This problem don't come from China, comes from flickr. And they know that.
Anyway only flickr loose with all this. I have a pro account here but i found a very nice service in www.ipernity.com/ and i have no problem to start using this instead of flickr.
Keep the good work flickr...
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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BG1OMD says:

Things become worse and worse, now even with FF+Add on I cannot see any photos in mainland China. the "great" FW finally find its way to block all access, well done~

ps. So flickr has nothing to say about this for weeks, is this the end?
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Canopus Archives says:

@ruinix

Don't talk such bull, you know it's nothing to do with Flickr, it's directly to do with your governments paranoid, totalitarian policies.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

Dear Flickr staff,

At this point you still fail to answer my previous query.
Your persistent silence is comparable to the one coming from the Chinese government regarding this issue. In fact, you're no better!

Should I not read an appropriate resolution update on this forum within the next 3 business days, or be given an offer of compensation for your failure in providing the paid service, I will not hesitate to take this matter further. This may incur strong negative publicity towards your services, as well as legal action.

With kind regards,
Lord Serge Claes / 蓝森志
Shantou / 汕头
China PRC / 中国
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Canopus Archives says:

@lifemage

It's important to understand just how 'business' is taken care of here in China.....

In service to the flickr community (in China) and to all flickr staff. I will be delivering 100 cartons of 'Double Happiness' cigarettes, 50 bottles of baijui, many translated copies of Bill Clinton's book "My Life" and a large basket of fruit, to several high level CPC officials over a hot-pot dinner,( followed by a full service KTV experience). After a couple smokes, a few ganbei's, a bit of Michael Bolton and The Carpenters, and a barely dressed lady on each guys arm, I'm SURE access will be restored.

Can't believe the Flickr guys haven't done this already!?!?!


So, were you successful? So far as not being able to believe that Flickr staff haven't done what you say you are doing already, well perhaps they are having delays getting visas, flights and lots of time of work :-)
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Canopus Archives says:

@senzhi

Flickr stated on 11 June: The Flickr team is very sorry for this continued issue and will update you when we have more to share. Has it occurred to you that perhaps there has been no change in the issue so there is no update on it and hence nothing more to share just yet? Considering this issue has been brought about by the actions of your government then threatening Flickr with bad publicity and legal action is a bit like threatening someone who has just been shot by a miscreant with taking legal action to get one's money back for the cost of the bullet.

Good luck with your legal action, I hope you don't waste too much money on a pointless case.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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༺lifemage༻ says:

Yes....all of it is covered in the Flickr/Yahoo! TOS. In this case, they have no legal requirement to reimburse anyone for not being able to access their service.

I linked to a study on internet filtering in China, in another thread. Flickr is just one of over 200'000 (not including porn), individually identified, filtered/blocked, websites. (sorry can't recall the exact #).
It's a full time job to try and filter the entire WWW. I also read that China employs over 30'000 people that manually police internet content. That's pretty incredible..er...I mean, scary!!!

This study is quite interesting....

www.opennetinitiative.net/studies/china/



oh....and I'm still able to access flickr using the FF/add-on.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

@ Canopus Archives

Can I suggest you re-read my posts?

And my government has nothing to do with this issue, I can assure you. Maybe the Chinese government, but not mine. ;o)
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

@ lifemage,

Thanks for the link ... but I'm afraid that one is also blocked in China. Hilarious ... but was to be expected.

I do agree it's scary. But the net is a strong medium, and freedom in the end always wins. However, I also see that too many U.S. e-businesses succumb to this freedom restriction for purely commercial reasons.

... and that is in my opinion worse than the restriction of freedom in itself.

Need examples: look at the mother Coy of Flickr ... guilty as sin in helping people in jail for just metioning their honest opinions.

And that's why I really cannot trust Flickr in this issue neither. In my opinion, they could well succumb to something dark again. Their persistent silence supports such a thinking.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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dbthayer says:

senzhi:

And that's why I really cannot trust Flickr in this issue neither. In my opinion, they could well succumb to something dark again.

pardon, but your logic escapes me.
almost certainly, the reason for continued GFW blocking is due to flickr's unwillingness to take down political photos and/or groups that mainland authorities find objectionable. (a quick search shows that such objectionable images and groups are plentiful on flickr.)

in other words, the very blocking that you are threatening flickr over is a testament to flickr's support for free speech. if they would 'succumb to this freedom restriction for purely commercial reasons' (your phrase), your service would likely be restored promptly and flickr could avoid your threatened legal action.
so which is it--quick restoration of your service or continued support for free speech?
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

@ dbthayer

To answer your question: a decision by Flickr, instead of pure silence and not having access to what rightfully belongs to the suscribers.

My point is not the display, but the storage issue. This in contrast of the (probable) reason the pictures are blocked (= prohibiting viewing sensitive materials).

Many Flickr uses do not only use this service for display purposes only, but also as storage. That is what Flickr customers pay for. And that is what we no longer receive within Mainland China.

The issue is complex, I agree. And it is not necessarily Flickr's fault. But they still do have a responsability.

And silence is not showing it. Instead it shows that subscribers in China (Chinese and foreign nationals) no longer rightfully can obtain their intellectual property.

So, Flickr, what's the story? How are you going to give our pictures back?
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Canopus Archives says:

@senzhi

I have read your post several times, Flickr stated they will update when there is more to share and if there was more to share then you can bet that they'd share it. Would you rather them add a couple of lines to their statement every day stating the same thing every day? It would certainly make the updates look extremely active, but, would create a lot of noise in the official update section which would result in people not reading it or something important being lost amids all the repetition.

I commiserate with you on not being able to get your pictures back from the Flickr site, however, I must point out that using any web site as a media for storage without having back-up on your own PC and other media is a rather reckless thing to do if you consider what you have stored only on Flickr to be of grate value to you which you do seem to regard.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

@ Canopus Archives

I fully agree with you. It is a good lesson for me not to rely solely on online backup storage anymore. I chose Flickr as one the most reliable .... and I must say this issue could happen to any kind of service provider. Nevertheless, Flickr promotes itself as a reliable storage media, as well as being multicultural.

I also agree with your point of Flickr not having to update every day. However, I only posted my intial question 3 weeks after their last update ...

In my opinion, Flickr is well aware of this 'craziness' but are simply avoiding it at this point, for purely commercial reasons: many people in China use Flickr and it would be a substantial loss if they would have to close these accounts, simply because there's no value in using Flickr anymore (except then for purely political reasons, as several media have confirmed recently).

If Flickr would close my account, and provide what belongs to me on a different storage media ... for me the whole problem would be solved.

My issue is not with people in China not being able to see my pictures ... even though I don't do politics, I'm a foreign national and my pictures are in fact good multicultural publicity to China (which doesn't say I do suppport any kind of restriction on intellectual freedom, wherever in the world).
I do have a problem with me not being able to access what's mine, having fulfilled all my obligations.

On a different note, rest assured I do hold China Telecom equally responsible. However, I cannot comment on this site, for obvious reasons.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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mulberry_huang says:

i am crazy now !!!
still can t see my photos !
me in chongqing .....
oh ! my GOD!
Do you know how much i love flickr
~~~ please solve the problem soon
i can t wait !
flickr is part of my life !
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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vinod_gopani says:

As yahoo photos are closing i transfered all my pics to flickr , But can see any pic , I am releif to see i am not the only one who is facing this problem.

Flickr staff pl help , i am also from china (guangzhou).
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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teh resa says:

I like to look at some of the Chinese photos and I am wondering where they are allowed to upload them and see them now? Is there a chinese photosharing site they use? Can people in other countries go there to see the photos?

Does anybody have a link to a site where I can go to see new Chinese uploads?
...yes I know it will be censored
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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[BLT]FQX says:

@Ther﹣esa :
Try photo.163.com
And www.bababian.com/ A Chinese edition of Flickr.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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valerism says:

Dear Yahoo! Top Council,

I am very sad and dissatisfied with the decision that Yahoo! Photo is closing down, apparently Yahoo! Top Council does not care of Yahoo! user at all.

Yahoo! Photos was a great service which allows Yahoo! loyal users to have their albums being showed to the public. I had about 30 ablums in Yahoo! Photos, and now it is closing down and Yahoo! is announcing that Yahoo! Flickr HAS A LIMITATION of allowing us to show ONLY 200 PHOTOS to public at once!

This is totally UNFAIR for Yahoo! Photos loyal users because we all have many albums (each album may consist of more than 200 photos already), and friends of ours could access to all the photos by links to the photos they want to view. What if they cannot review it now (as Yahoo! Photos is closing down)?

This is a serious problem which Yahoo! Top Council had never thought of. As an Yahoo! loyal user I am really dissapointed on your decision. Since I do have account for Yahoo! 360, your decision made everything impossible for me, my family and friends.

Should Yahoo! willing to look into this matter seriously and take action, or please shut down Yahoo! Customer Service at once.

The future of Yahoo! is always in your hand.
Thank you.


Sincerely,
a dissapointed Yahoo! loyal user.
Posted 83 months ago. ( permalink )

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aschoom says:

Its weird but you can view images that were uploaded before June 2007...
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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ikeebs says:

Well Im in Australia and I cant view any of my images either. It just says at the bottom of the screen that there are items remaining to download. They never show up. Tried IE7 and Firefox. Nothing...
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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qingp says:

Update from Flickr staff [2] (01:00 PDT, June 8th) : We are checking periodically to see if the block is still in place, but haven't detected any change. We hope that this is a temporary issue and we currently believe that it will be. In the meantime, we are investigating our alternatives. Thank's for your patience.

Such a long time has pasted. I am really wondering what you mean by "alternatives". what are your reasons to believe this is a "temporary issue"?
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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πρώρα (Prora) says:

aschoom Pro User says:

Its weird but you can view images that were uploaded before June 2007...

Are they coming from your cache?
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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米死米(MSM) says:

looks really suck in Chinese right now.

i will back there 1 month without flickr?????

damn,god help me
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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[BLT]FQX says:

@daqingtaiping
Sadly, I feel it will be permanent.
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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sevensixfive says:

*bump*
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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Gargattina says:

I live in Rome and for a few hours now (it's midnight my time) I haven't been able to see any new images (which was not in my cache yet)...
Is this a new problem?
Posted 82 months ago. ( permalink )

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onewil says:

Amazing again to me that the last action on this was 1 month ago.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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Ben_T says:

@onewil- You can talk to them too, if you want. Talk to people in your goverment and ask them what's up.

You could also bug the staff by e-mailing them.

But, it's the goverment. I bet there probably won't be a simple "oops, sorry!" answer. There must be some reason behind it that no one knows yet.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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seaan says:

The only way Flickr can try solve this is to enable SSL.
Flickr is not blocked as a whole: just the display of images is blocked.
When Flickr is accessed using an encrypted http session, images become visible again.
I'm currently in Beijing and facing the same problem: since I can access a remote server in Europe where I enabled ssh forwarding, my http session is encrypted and I can see images.
Don't hold your breath anyway: even in the remote case Flickr enables SSL, I guess the Chinese Government will probably adopt more strict policies to inhibit access to Flickr like blocking the whole site.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )
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onewil says:

@Ben_T, I would love to. I'm very aware of the Chinese government's quirks. But I'm American, so despite that they're not "my government".

I guess my previous post was more along the lines of "wow, still no change." I am not particularly interested in pestering the staff, as in the past 3 months Flickr has become a lot less important to me (based on usefulness, not desire). I know they're probably frustrated as well. My only reason for posting is that, as an affected and paying user, it seems strange to me to hear so little.

I understand too that they probably don't have much to report. It's just disappointing, that's all. Oh well. The few weeks a year I'm in the US Flickr is still nice.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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miaofu says:

Anyway,the flickr is can't be used normally,especially to the pro user,
they have paid for the services.
I hope flickr dont just say sorry to me,but take out some activity useful to chinese flickrers.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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cpeter11 says:

Yahoo Photos is shutting down and I am been 'forced' to migrated to flickr, only to find that I can't see any photos on flickr from China. That essentially just force me to use other websites such as MSN space
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Searcher says:

yep. I thought Yahoo Photos gave people choices for where they wanted to go, along with the migration tools to the different sites. Considering that most of those other photo gallery sites are too small or not widely-sharing enough to be noticed by China yet (it's China that's blocking Flickr, by the way) they might be a better choice right now if you're stuck behind the Chinese blocking.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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Yanji Gina's Place says:

Yup...Flickr pics still blocked using _normal_ means of accessing the site. I was able to get in using a work around, however. Still pretty frustrating that the Great Firewall would block the pics...
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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seaan says:

Some tips here to try and subvert the censorship
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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tp289flicker says:

Subverting is just temporary - for each action will have a reaction from GFW (Great Firewall). They also block many other sites and nobody can do anything (BBC, news about Taiwan, etc.). Be aware where you are .....
Even Olympic Games next year will not change it.
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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seaan says:

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!
Posted 81 months ago. ( permalink )

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zhusha says:

Boohuuu, I just bought Pro and only found out none of my families and friends in China can see my photoes. They are the only reason I use Flikr...
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dr. Keats says:

This has been going on for over three months - how could you not know before now??
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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followstevesphotos says:

I was recommended to flicker today and loaded all the software to find I can't see any photo's. I've lived in China for a year and till today I haven't been more confused. Glad I found somewhere to vent. I'll be buying more memory.
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Johnny ©ontax says:

A large portion of the flickr community do not look at these forums, if all is going well they feel no need, there is nothing wrong with that.
It has to be said that your replies in most threads come across as rather rude and, for want of a better word, unhelpful, I'm not sure why you bother to join in if all you can do is criticise.
I won't respond to any other reply to this, but it is something that had to be said...
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Patrick Costello says:

John - you obviously don't have much dealings with Australians - lol!
Like folks from the north of England where I hail from, our antipodean friends are renowned for their frankness of expression.
Flickr is a global community, so I think you need to get used to differences in communications style. I have seen many many helpful responses from Dr Keats. As it happens, in this case I was thinking pretty much what he wrote. How can you use flickr only for sharing with family & friends in China and be unaware of the censorship issue that has been around for the last three months.
I guess the difference is I've been living in the south of England for 20+ years, so sometimes I keep such thoughts to myself :-)
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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flickr2007 says:

hey FCK THIS IM IN SHANGHAI CHINA AND I CNT STAND THIS ITS CRAPPY HELL SO WTF DO WE DO???!!!!!!

duz it work in taiwan tho???
cuz my meeting 4 my multimillion investment is there in 5 days nd my graphs r on flickr nd i need them to convince the company for my investment!!!!
THIS IS MY FUTURE
THIS BETTER WORK OR I'LL COMPLAIN IT AINT FCKIN FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dr. Keats says:

John© - read the above post. Do you begin to understand?
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πρώρα (Prora) says:

The perpetrator of the above obscene, illiterate and almost unintelligible contribution (flickr2007) doesn't even seem to have any photos, profile or contacts on Flickr! So where's the investment?
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wooble says:

I'm not sure, but I know that if I ever have millions of dollars to invest I'm not going to give it to someone who relies on some third party to display the photos they need to convince me to give them the money. If you can't be bothered to bring a CD-ROM of your photos and probably put them in a nice Powerpoint presentation along with your business plan I hardly think I'm going to think you're organized enough to make me a good return on my investment.
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Silly Luis says:

You'll probably not get the millions, because what wooble says, but the odds are that Flickr works OK in Taiwan. There seems to be no complaints from there.
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The Searcher says:

I hope he doesn't use the same spelling for his graphs and charts.

Saw this wonderful article on Chinese Internet blocking today:
news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070927/wr_nm/china_internet_dc

Basically it was a "it's really not that bad" sort of apologist thing.

What was bizarre, or most bizarre about the story, was that it was, context and rebuttal free, from Yahoo News.
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

The Searcher,

It is publicly known that Yahoo actively supports Chinese censorship for purely commercial reasons. Even up to the point of being actively involved in putting people in jail for just expressing their free opinion.

As Flickr is part of Yahoo, I have no doubt that they are not doing anything to resolve this issue ... again for purely commercial reasons.

However, what is insulting is that they not show any concern to all the 'Pro's' here that have spent their money ... and are being left in the cold.

Chinese censorship is one thing, Flickr and Yahoo's attitude another!
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The Searcher says:

Yahoo's dubious business decisions to be allowed to do business IN China, are a little bit different than China blocking Flickr from COMING into the country. The solution is obvious; Flickr would just have to bend to China's demands and start actively deleting and blocking content that China deems embarrassing or rabble-rousing. According to your opinion of Yahoo, they would quickly and happily do such a terrible thing.

And yet they have not. hmm.

I know it is frustrating when the corporation you love to hate finally grows a backbone (or leans on Flickr's backbone) but it is that resistance to bend to Chinese censorship demands that is the cause of your woes.

So it is strange that you would argue that you would selfishly prefer them to do exactly what you loath and decry.
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dbthayer says:

As Flickr is part of Yahoo, I have no doubt that they are not doing anything to resolve this issue ... again for purely commercial reasons.

senzhi:

whaaat?
sorry, but can't see how the block could be anything but contrary to flickr's commercial interests in China.
if flickr were really in bed with the authorities...this issue would have been resolved long ago. just a matter of removing photos, groups, and comments that upset the agents of gov't repression, followed by a little bureaucratic ass-kissing...et voila, problem solved.
as The Searcher has pointed out, that hasn't happened. until it does, flickr deserves points for displaying backbone. more than parent yahoo, anyway.

edit: spelling
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Serge Claes says:

Flickr also receives credit for not returning what doesn't belong to them. Some people use Flickr also as a means of back-up. Flickr could have other legal means to solve this without affecting any parties involved. Yet, they don't care, as they have cashed in already.

What's more amazing: it's still possible to pay for and acquire a pro-account as a user in China. Not that it would be very smart from the user, but it's not very honest from Flickr too.
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Wooble says:

Flickr could have other legal means to solve this without affecting any parties involved.

Like what? You want them to file a lawsuit in a Chinese court demanding access for their customers?
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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dbthayer says:

senzhi:

you're right, it is negligent for flickr to accept pro account payments from China, unless there is a solution forthcoming.

and we'd love to learn your ideas for '...other legal means to solve this..."! ;-)
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

Solving the back-up is simple .... they just transfer my pics back to me either soft or hard. It's that easy. I've requested that to them ... but their nose is bleeding: not even a reply to discuss this matter.

However, I've learned a lesson: I should never rely on online back-up anymore.

I don't care so much about people not being able to see my pictures. I do care about not being able to access what's mine!

The root cause is indeed Chinese censorship. But that doesn't mean Flickr hasn't any responsibilities towards their users at all ...
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dr. Keats says:

"Solving the back-up is simple .... they just transfer my pics back to me either soft or hard".

No need - you can easily do it yourself::

greggman.com/pages/flickrdown.htm

sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153348
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Michael Smith says:

Maybe it's time for the Chinese people to get themselves a government more in keeping with their own aspirations. But alas, this is outside Stewart Butterfield's powers, especially as he's on paternity leave.
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Searcher says:

There was a story today that China just started blocking RSS feeds, too. They're a pesky workaround to a lot of their net blocking, apparently.
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Serge Claes says:

Dr. Keats,

Your help is warmly appreciated.

However, I'm afraid these tools also do not seem to pass the Chinese firewall in requesting access to the pictures. In short, for me, any access initiated by me simply doesn't pass the firewall.

The only solution I see to this is an upload towards me, initiated by Flickr themselves.

As for the China blockings, a lot depends on trial and errors as these servers are locally maintained by China Telecom. It all depends on the cleverness of the IT guy on board, and how quick he or she is in implementing new filters correctly.
One thing they're always good at: denying. Even when they blocked me access to online banking with my European bank.

Sometimes very frustrating for a foreigner here.
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dr. Keats says:

senzhi: a very clever guy named Hamed Saber has come up with a Firefox extension which many (most?) people find works at beating the firewall block. It's available here: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4286

He's loading an updated version sometime in the next couple of hours - if you find it works, you may then be able to use FlickrDown or Flickr Backup to retrieve your images.

Fingers crossed!!
Posted 80 months ago. ( permalink )

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米死米(MSM) says:

seems Flickr in China is unblocked right now
Posted 79 months ago. ( permalink )

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johnmperry says:

If true, that would be because the National Communist Party Congress has just finished. However, it doesn't seem true, at least not in this part of Guangdong it's not.
Posted 79 months ago. ( permalink )

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Rolye says:

As per my contacts in China
they are now receiving all pictures excepted ALL human photos which are marked with red cross!
information given last week !
Posted 79 months ago. ( permalink )

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[BLT]FQX says:

The farm3 is safe now.
Posted 79 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lawrence Junjie Lee says:

My friends in Beijing are still not able to see my China pictures.
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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iansand says:

I was in China last week. Some photos I saw - some I didn't. Very strange.
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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M-j-P says:

My friend who lives in Shanghai says she can see all of my pictures except the ones I took in china. odd.
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lawrence Junjie Lee says:

Has anything changed yet? If not, then I guess it would be same to assume that this is a permanent thing.
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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anton hazewinkel says:

Today I was able to see pictures on Flickr on my mobile, which has no software to bypass the censorship. It seems that the ban is lifted. Question is for how long. Anyway, good news for now.
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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johnmperry says:

It must depend where you are. Here in Guangdong IE still doesn't work. But I use the firefox work-round to work round. That's the only thing I use firefox for.
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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Pipeedo says:

Sorry this is slightly off track ....but can't seem to get answers anywhere else...Can any of you folks in Shanghai successfully listen to bbc radio on line???Please help...
Posted 78 months ago. ( permalink )

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Shao Shao Ke Zhan says:

Flickr staff, don't hide behind the bush and ignore the pro user. We paid and the service is out, I wrote more then 10 reports but still no reply, the most current public annoncement was made 4 mons ago. Cant believe Flickr is such a irresponsible company!!!!

All Pro user in China got RIPPED OFF, we should get together and sue Flickr
Posted 77 months ago. ( permalink )

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Dr. Keats says:

For the millionth time - it's THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT doing it....
Posted 77 months ago. ( permalink )

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Neo Saguaro says:

You're gonna sue Flickr?

Good luck with that.
Posted 77 months ago. ( permalink )

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Michael Smith says:

Obviously Chinese users should sue Flickr. Flickr's been incredibly negligent in failing to gather together a Task Force to invade the People's Republic of China and restore unfettered internet access.
Posted 77 months ago. ( permalink )

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