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Willowy says:

Gets my vote. For SO many reasons.

For those that want to share, who do you want?
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electricspacegirl says:

Does anyone have the link to Rachel Maddow's Obama interview? BTW, loved Colbert's endorsement. He was so ON, wasn't he?
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electricspacegirl says:

Hey, does anyone ever watch the Obama rallies and pay attention to the sometimes strange actions of people in the stands behind Obama? The Obama background peeps were really funny in Florida the other day. They crack me up.
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_Mirage says:

Here you go esg,
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsGO9pXS0E
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h00ohwjQ68
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palehorse says:

Jeez, I'm getting nervous about the election. I've been really busy at work, so I haven't had as much time to watch the news, etc., but each time I check things, it looks like things are tightening up. And all the reports of election fraud by the Republicans (the fliers saying Democrats are supposed to vote a day later in two states, the robocalls in Spanish in one state saying the voters will be arrested if they show up to vote, the hacked voting machines reported in at least two states changing votes from Obama to McCain) just make me ill.

But turnout for early voting is unprecedented. I'm happy to see people taking advantage of their right to vote when so many have stayed at home in the past.
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_Mirage says:

Rick Sanchez for the win!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCaOCWYpPk4

Can't McCain's people FIND better people to speak for them? My 10 year old cousin saw this and started laughing - saying that this guy is lying and acting like a classmate of hers that keeps making stuff up to get attention. Out of the mouths of babes... really.
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

Apologies if this has been posted:

www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results
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palehorse says:

Mirage, I just wish Sanchez had added: "without evidence, your charge must be dismissed as baseless." Yes, it's redundant, but for some viewers I think they need the final nail driven in. Sadly, so many people don't have the sense of your ten-year-old cousin.
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samatwitch says:

Apparently the Bush administration is trying to rush new legislation through before his term ends (much like Clinton did at the end of his term). The difference is that the Bush ones generally are only good for business and corporations that on laxer regulations.
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palehorse says:

Hysterically, Sarah Palin walked out to the mic for a rally today to the music of Thriller. Now let's remember some of the lyrics of Jackson's song:

"It's close To Midnight and Something Evil's Lurking in The Dark.
Under The Moonlight, You See A Sight That Almost Stops Your Heart.
You Try To Scream, But Terror Takes The Sound Before You Make It.
You Start To Freeze, As Horror Looks You Right Between The Eyes,
You're Paralyzed
. . .
'Cause this Is Thriller, Diller Night
and No-ones Gonna Save You from the Beast about to Strike.
You Know its Thriller, chiller Night
You're fighting for Your Life inside a Killer, Thriller."

Sarah Palin, the Evil lurking in the dark, the Beast about to strike!
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jcurries says:

Re: if the world could vote--to be fair, they polled fewer than 5 people in some of those countries. :)

I keep getting nervous, too. Then I go back to 538 & look at poll numbers again and feel better. Then I get nervous again. But, as MoveOn says, Don't get scared! Just make calls! Nevada is our closest swing state, so it's the one I feel most comfortable calling. Does that even make sense?

It bothers me that they're saying that the youth vote isn't turning out in early voting, especially in Florida. C'mon kids!
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

Well, its not "polled" so much as "have responded" though there is a question of which side is more likely to be online and run across it :) There are places with tens or hundreds of thousands responding, however. Why do Albania and Macedonia want McCain to win? ;)
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samatwitch says:

Lovely article about Prop8 in CA.
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electricspacegirl says:

Rick Sanchez for the win!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCaOCWYpPk4

Can't McCain's people FIND better people to speak for them? My 10 year old cousin saw this and started laughing - saying that this guy is lying and acting like a classmate of hers that keeps making stuff up to get attention. Out of the mouths of babes... really.


I saw this on TV. I couldn't believe it. "Tell me one person." "We all know who we're talking about." "Say it." "I think we all know who it is." WTF??? People get paid to lie and act like children? Stupid, stupid.
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electricspacegirl says:

Hysterically, Sarah Palin walked out to the mic for a rally today to the music of Thriller.

Really? REALLY? Video please.

Now let's remember some of the lyrics of Jackson's song:

"It's close To Midnight and Something Evil's Lurking in The Dark.
Under The Moonlight, You See A Sight That Almost Stops Your Heart.
You Try To Scream, But Terror Takes The Sound Before You Make It.
You Start To Freeze, As Horror Looks You Right Between The Eyes,
You're Paralyzed
. . .
'Cause this Is Thriller, Diller Night
and No-ones Gonna Save You from the Beast about to Strike.
You Know its Thriller, chiller Night
You're fighting for Your Life inside a Killer, Thriller."

Sarah Palin, the Evil lurking in the dark, the Beast about to strike!


Darn, you gave away the punchline of the Halloween joke I was going to tell. I certainly think, if you're going to dress up as anything this Halloween, it should be Sarah Palin. I mean, talk about scaring the neighbors (unless your neighbors are rednecks).
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electricspacegirl says:




yeswecarve.com
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palehorse says:

Video for esg:

site2.mjeol.com/mj-related/oh-no-she-diint-palin-using-th...
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electricspacegirl says:

Thanks Palehorse. So. Awesome.

So I saw Schwarzenegger making fun of Obama's size when he was stumping for McCrazy today. WTF? Really, Arnold? Are you gonna call him a girlyman too? Someone tell me if he did, because I want that video too.

Ah, what a beautiful train wreck.
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palehorse says:

Samatwitch, according to Rachel Maddow a minute ago, Bush overturned Clinton's end-of-term laws because Clinton had waited too late. The reason Bush is rushing his laws on the environment now is so they will be put into effect before he leaves office. That is, he learned from Clinton's mistake. In other words, Bush is deregulating the environmental industry -- to do to the environment what deregulation did for Wall Street -- without having any discussion with anyone. His last, cynical parting shot to future generations.

esg, I heard Aaaaanold make fun of Obama's physique, including his "skinny" arms, but I don't have a link.
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samatwitch says:

Yes, that's what they said in the article - that Bush was able to overturn over 200 of Clinton's last-minute bills. He did it the afternoon of the inauguration! Also, not only does the Bush administration have a structured timeline so that it can't happen to them, they are writing the laws so that they can only be overturned with a lot of red tape and public hearings!
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electricspacegirl says:

Evil. Evil to the core. Definitely Senior Partners, the Bush Admin.

*barfs* *gets really really scared for the future* *cries*

*chants* FiveThirtyEight.com FiveThirtyEight.com FiveThirtyEight.com
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_Mirage says:

esg, I give you Palin and Thriller!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3GUwVmA20

Oooh, someone needs to YT comment what they think on this!
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palehorse says:

Interesting. Palin had a rally in Florida and there were no McCain signs anywhere -- only Palin signs. Looks as though she's really bolting for the door.

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/01/mccains-name-now...
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electricspacegirl says:

Palin takes prank call from fake French president.

NY Times article explains the call.

I downloaded the youtube clip in case it gets taken down.
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tres_shey says:

Great stuff here, as usual, and scary stuff as well. My sister sent me an email after she early voted on Monday saying "I'm both optimistic and terrified", which pretty much sums up my feelings, too (I'm waiting until Tuesday to vote, as my polling place is only about a half mile from my house).

Watched Keith Olberman on Halloween because Michael Moore was on, but the entire show was really encouraging, focusing on the total train wreck that is the McCain Campaign, and all the Republican endorsements for Obama.

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tres_shey says:

Hope this isn't too long, thought everyone could use a laugh. :)

POLITICAL SCIENCE FOR DUMMIES

DEMOCRATIC

You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
Barbara Streisand sings for you.

REPUBLICAN

You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
So?

SOCIALIST

You have two cows.
The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.

COMMUNIST

You have two cows.
The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
You wait in line for hours to get it.
It is expensive and sour.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE

You have two cows.
You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE

You have two cows.
Under the new farm program the government pays
you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.

AMERICAN CORPORATION

You have two cows.
You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows.
You are surprised when one cow drops dead.
You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have
downsized and are reducing expenses.
Your stock goes up.

FRENCH CORPORATION

You have two cows.
You go on strike because you want three cows.
You go to lunch and drink wine.
Life is good.

JAPANESE CORPORATION

You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow
and produce twenty times the milk.
They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
Most are at the top of their class at cow school.

GERMAN CORPORATION

You have two cows.
You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer,
give excellent quality milk,
and run a hundred miles an hour.
Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.

ITALIAN CORPORATION

You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
You break for lunch.
Life is good.

RUSSIAN CORPORATION

You have two cows.
You have some vodka.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You have some more vodka.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
The Mafia shows up and takes over
however many cows you really have.

TALIBAN CORPORATION

You have all the cows in Afghanistan , which are two.
You don't milk them because you cannot touch
any creature's private part s.
You get a $40 million grant from the US government
to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.

IRAQI CORPORATION

You have two cows.
They go into hiding.
They send radio tapes of their mooing.

BELGIAN CORPORATION

You have one cow.
The cow is schizophrenic.
Sometimes the cow thinks he's French,
other times he's Flemish.
The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
The cow dies happy.

FLORIDA CORPORATION

You have a black cow and a brown cow.
Everyone votes for the best looking one.
Some of the people who actually like the brown one best
accidentally vote for the black one.
Some people vote for both.
Some people vote for neither.
Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state
tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.
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Madhatter_ says:

Hello tres shey! Wish to welcome you to the room.

As you can see, have our hands full at the moment, however you did make several points to discuss.

Just bare with us for awhile.
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_Mirage says:

I downloaded it too, esg! LOL And to think I was shocked that THIS did not shock me. Tells you much.

I found it funny that in the vid of Thriller people voted down one the person who commented with lyrics. How did that offend them? ;) If I had a YT account I would counter that with a thumbs up.

I thought it was long when I saw it, shey, but then I was sad it was over 'cause I didn't want to stop laughing. I almost copied it and forwarded it to my boss (I know he would've loved it). Thankfully, my email jammed enough for me to realize how odd it would look if I did. ;)
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_Mirage says:

I just saw this. Apparently, the US is currently at war with Iran. Well, at least that's what Palin is saying.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZTgtyWvEsQ
I really need to stop listening to her, I keep getting a headache whenever I do.
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phlebotinin says:

Hi, everyone. Great cornucopia o' links you've all provided. I was inordinately amused (and embarrassed) by the Palin punking. Good times. But I don't know hom I'm going to handle getting through the next 72 or so hours. Arghhh! I've become an all-out obsessive-compulsive web checker. I'm glued to the political sites all day, every day. My work is suffering and my mental equilibrium, too. Maybe it doesn't help that I live smack in the middle of Washington, DC, which we all know has got to have one ragin' hellmouth beneath it, no? Just walk down K Street on any afternoon and you'll see plenty of demons scuttling around.

I may have to resort to a variety of self-medications to deal with my totally out of control anxiety between now and Tuesday evening.....Anyone else feeling this way? I can't remember the last time I've wanted to WIN something so badly.
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palehorse says:

phleb, I hear your pain.

April and I met up at the Biden rally here in my town this afternoon. It was fun to be with all the other Dems in support of change. All sorts of people were there enjoying the sunshine and the atmosphere. While Biden didn't say anything I hadn't heard him say, it was funny, at one point, when some McCain protesters -- who were standing a few yards behind the crowd and running a siren-like sound to try, unsuccessfully, to drown out the speeches--caught his attention. Biden said that, at first, he thought he had heard a siren, as from an ambulance, but then he realized that it was just McCain whiners. That got a big laugh. At the end, he talked about how we must end all the divisiveness, and that we must reach out to the other side -- yes, even to the protesters. In that spirit, as people were leaving the grounds laid out for the rally, they held up their hands in peace signs. This seemed to enrage a handful of the McCain protesters, who ran toward the rallyers. The police chased them back. There had been no taunting by the rallyers -- just gestures of peace. The McCain people are just so full of fear and hate. It's too bad.
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jcurries says:

I'm in the optimistic yet terrified/completely obsessed yet can't-wait-for-the-frickkin'-thing-to-be-over camp, too. Just one more day.

And reading the bovine political science makes we wish I lived in France or Italy. :)
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

Saul Williams (poet, musician) sent out this video and the text version of it follows (they are different in places, so check out both if you're interested.

obeygiant.com/voteforchange/saul-williams/

Dear History,
For too long have I pondered your meaning, memorized dates of battles, years of servitude, decades of injustice, named eras after movements, mourned the extinction of species, cursed founding fathers, worn vintage suits and cloaked myself with references of your hold on me.

I have walked through museums wondering how it is that greatness had lived and died all before my time. Parts of me feared becoming great because it seemed to include a price of death and a postmortem glory that my memory could never resurrect. I've stared at paintings dying to catch glimpses of the painter, closed my eyes to listen to songs that drunken ghosts dance to, and all the while I've fought to FREE the present to BECOME.

In 1995, I stood with poets in the middle of the Brooklyn Bridge, barking metaphors at the new moon of the summer solstice wedging words into it's craters, sewing seeds through nightly wind.

In 1996, I forced the ocean back with words, fathered planets, climbed pyramids, and began to decipher the sirens song to conjure the dream-filled Children of the Night.

In 1997, I stood with prisoners in our nations capitol bending bars with the power of thought as wordsmiths served sentences and Hip Hop diddy-dandified itself: stealing golden calves from the Old Testament to smuggle into the lavish crib of Pontius Pilate for it's birthday party

In 1998, I swallowed fear and sun-danced on film reels, projecting a me that had not been into a me that ever shall be.

And HERE I stand, ten years the difference and witness to changing hands.

Dear History,
I beat you. I stand a generator of generations bearing witness to a world that we are holding accountable for past actions. Me and my friends, we're changing our diets, re-inventing marriage, check-mating capitalism, re-defining ethics, replacing cruelty with compassion, and have sworn not to re-elect the sins of the father.

We are casting our votes for so much more than a lesser of evils, but for change, and greater insight, for wisdom out of the mouths of babes, for races that bleed into ONE.

Dear History,
You are behind us and we are no longer looking back. We are standing on the threshold of new times, new days, new worlds, and charging forward without battle cry or trumpet, while cynicism, apathy, and cowardice take their place beside you, behind us.

Dear History,
We no longer believe in you. We have invested our our thoughts and dreams into the present moment and opportunity to shift our reality into one that does not resemble your dog-eared books.

We stand on the shoulders of those who have dared to dream and on the necks of those who have wasted their time and ours proclaiming a past past its prime.

Dear History,
Blitz! It's my turn now. You can have your mounds of flesh, leather boots, cannons and sabers, nooses and guillotines, warships and fighter planes, trails of tears and blood, genocides, dungeons and dragons, ghost stories and fairy tales..........
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There are other interesting videos on the site as well.
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barest_smidgen says:

"Your kids will thank you."

Worthwhile Friedman piece about your vote tomorrow. Useful, and less inflammatory, to send to parents.

And where for art thou, John McCain?

Another good piece about what happened to McCain. Favorite (painful) quote: “Why did he allow his campaign to become a host body for a Bush virus looking for someplace to infect?”

As disgusted as I've been with his campaign, I really didn't want to see him go out like this. It's like seeing a childhood sports hero drunk and belligerent at an autograph convention, hitting on teenage girls. He was better than that. Watched a recent speech this weekend that almost reminded me of the old McCain -- I didn't agree with all of the policies but respected the man. Then I remembered everything else from the last couple of months, and shook my head sadly. What have they done to you, John? What did you let them do?

ETA: Second link fixed.
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electricspacegirl says:

Barest, I think the 'Old McCain that everyone loved" is a myth. I think it was the way he branded himself in the media, but the way he's voted has always been very conservative, and there's nothing "mavericky" about any of his work in the Senate. This is what I've learned from reading a few articles about him, as well as hearing an interview on Air America with someone in the House. You don't have to believe it, but I never really trusted that "maverick" identity anyway. Not to mention issues I have with his character.
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barest_smidgen says:

It may be pretty and partisan to think so these days, but that John McCain certainly wasn't a myth to me. I've been actively following his career for at least 15 years and am sad to see how he squandered the opportunity he had to be one of the good ones.

I grew up in a family who held values from both sides of the aisle and I went to a university that is Catholic (I am not) but all about social justice (I am) -- and so in the years that I was figuring out who I was and what I stood for, I was pretty open minded. Back then, it didn't occur to me to loathe the other side. I was taught to try to understand where they were coming from, so you could respect the person and try to find common ground.

Though I disagreed with McCain on a lot of the issues, I respected the way he seemed to think about public office and his responsibility to the people, post-Keating. I admired his rejection of politics as performance art, and looked for him to become a force for post-Clinton bipartisanship. In my world, that meant we'd still have clear choices between parties and policies, (and I'd frequently be leaning left) but that those elected to govern would go about their business earnestly, putting their heads down to get about the business of compromise. There was a time when McCain was poised to become that guy on the GOP's side-- and a time when he relished the thought. I respected him for it. I just believe that time has passed.
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electricspacegirl says:

What about how he's voted on women's and veteran's issues? When I say conservative, I'm not saying just because he's a conservative, he's bad. I'm saying look at his voting record. I'm also looking at his bigotry and sexism. I just don't think he ever was the guy everyone thinks he was.
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

ESG - go back and read what she said. Your response looks like you are carrying on an argument with someone whose comments have been deleted from the thread. Or maybe you got some really good medication for your tooth :))?
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barest_smidgen says:

I can understand how you feel, esg, but I think you're missing my point. I know his voting record -- and I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what kind of "employee of the American people" the man once endeavored to be, as opposed to some of his colleagues.

I'm looking for a world (or at least a brief period of reason), where "my guy" works with "the other guy" -- earnestly and transparently. I can't pretend to truly understand why people I love vote for "the other guy" but they do, and I'd humbly submit that my beliefs/values are no more important than theirs. Or Madhatter's. Or yours. John McCain used to get that, and wanted to do things differently. He wanted to work with my guy. I'm disappointed in the change.

So as far as playing catch-up on McCain's back-story, you'll forgive me for not sublimating what I have felt and believe to have known from my own experience, extensive reading and research over the last 15 years, in favor of what "my side" prefers to teach me -- during a heated election cycle -- about what I thought I once saw or knew. No one need convince me that what I felt was wrong, wrong, wrong, and that McCain has always been some sort of terrible arch right-wing bastard in order to secure my vote for the Democratic ticket. Obama's already got it -- and it's a pure one this time. It's a heady feeling to be actually voting FOR something, instead of cynically against. I'm going to hold onto that while I can.
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Willowy says:

I agree with you barest. I met him a couple of times when he'd come to Prescott when I worked for the City. He was cool back then (2001, 2). Everyone really liked how he actually listened to people of both parties, and how he really seemed to use common sense. He was at ease with his position, and always seemed pleasant and easy-going. Not the mean little hothead he is now.

People used to say that he was the most Democratic Republican they'd ever met. I certainly agreed with it back then. How times change.
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jcurries says:

A good friend of mine, a liberal who follows politics very closely, has a picture of himself with John McCain taken a few years ago. My friend was happy to meet McCain, pleased with his work on campaign finance reform and his willingness to speak his mind even when he disagreed with his party. My friend didn't suffer any illusions that McCain was a liberal, but he respected the man. That's been lost, and there are a lot of people that feel this way, including some of the prominent Republicans who've endorsed Obama. McCain really has changed--the possibility of power corrupts, I guess. (John Stewart did equate him with Gollum, didn't he?)

On a different topic, what is everyone doing for election night? We decided to stay at home & keep it intimate (just a couple of friends & my mom). We thought about going to an election-night bash, but in the end I just couldn't bear to leave my computer. :)

Hey, Willowy's back! The one who started this monster thread! (Thank you :)
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kittyholmes says:

the thing i love about obama is exactly what some of you were saying above about the previous john mccain, that he can work both sides of the aisle. rachel maddow was really pressing him to blame the republicans in thursdays interview, and he wouldn't do it, because not all republicans are the same (and hey, a lot are voting for him this time) and it's awesome that he gets that. mccain's campaign has been all about why not to vote for the other guy for months, when they don't seem to have any good ideas about why you should vote for them, or wtf they are going to do after tomorrow. 6 months ago i said that if mccain beat hillary in november that i'd be sad, but probably wouldn't need medication or a move to another country, but now....

i'm making lots of baked goods for our party tomorrow, though my cupcakes, etc will probably not be as pretty as most of these cakes! the coconut cake a few posts down looks delicious. we are expecting about 20 people, the husband is running the bar, and we will have the tv going and the projector going to wii boxing, mccain vs obama. i am also going to make a michelle and a cindy mii, the giant open scary eyes are perfect for cindy's thousand yard stare!
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palehorse says:

I, yes, even I used to have respect for John McCain. But I lost it all during this election process. And I think the article barest linked to above (with the Bush virus line) is a fair piece. (I also liked the Friedman piece when I read it yesterday. I almost linked to it here, but I got distracted and didn't act on it.)

A week ago I asked my class of 60-odd students how many had voted -- and about a third raised their hands. I asked today, and about two-thirds raised their hands! Yay! And I encouraged the rest to do the same. (I should have promised extra credit on the final grade if they would vote -- that would get them there! :D ) When the class meets again on Wednesday, we'll have a president-elect. I hope it turns out to be "my guy."
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samatwitch says:

With regard to all of you (and I include myself even though I can't vote) who are cycling through hope, fear, optimism, trepidation, etc., here is an article to reassure that it is apparently quite common for Democrats this tie around. Even psychiatrists are hearing about in from their patients!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for all of you for tomorrow and sending out as many positive vibes as I can!
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saltygoodness702 says:

I agree about McCain too, very much along the same lines as barest. And I pretty much agree with every word of Kittyholmes first paragraph--I abhor the two-party system and don't feel properly represented by either side (which is why I'm Independent), but Obama is the best I've seen in my lifetime at making things more about the welfare of all in our country and less about the division of our beliefs and styles.

kittyholmes, your party sounds fantastic! Take lots of pics to share :)

I'm opting to stay at home with a few friends coming over to commisserate. We are making our special "phenomenachos" and are also hoping for a clear win and not a dragged out fight to the finish.

I'll probably be checking in here frequently as I love reading the things you all post. I may not share much and part of that is because I am not as purely democratic as most seem to be here, but I read every single post in this thread and it has been a real lifesaver, eye opener, and serious source of good material and education throughout this process. Thanks to all of you for the fabulous comments and resources and yes, to Willowy for getting us started so long ago!!! :)
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saltygoodness702 says:

Oh my gosh, I am so devastated that Barack's grandmother died today. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_grandmother
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palehorse says:

Yes, I just heard about this driving home. How sad that Obama learned of this on election eve, and that she could not live to see him become president-elect -- which I pray is what happens tomorrow. My thoughts go out to him and his family. But the real tribute to her is the man that he has become, the father and husband that he appears to be, and she already knew that. So if there is any way one can die happy, I'm sure that she is.
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FireflyFlanatic says:

I just heard about Obama's grandma too! How very sad for him. I'm glad he was able to visit her but I was so hoping she'd live to see him be elected. I'm also worried and scared that things will go wrong tomorrow but that's because of the last two elections and how badly those turned out.

Things do look promising and I heard a report that the majority of early votes were for Obama.

I cannot wait for this to be over yet I'm so scared that things will not turn out the way I'm hoping!

We're all very excited about being able to vote tomorrow. Wish my family could all go together but we can't manage that. My husband will be voting on his way to work, I'll be waiting for one of my daughters to get home from her classes ane we'll go around four and my other daughter will be voting around 6:30 on her way home from work.

And can I just say how thrilled and happy I am to see you back Willowy!! I was just thinking about you last night and how missed you have been in this wonderful thread that you started. I'm happy to see you back here in the final hours of this campaign.

Hopefully we'll all be celebrating tomorrow night and looking forward to a happier, brighter future for our country!
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samatwitch says:

I'm so sorry to hear about Obama's grandmother. I was so hoping that she would hang on to see him elected, as I hope will happen tomorrow. There was a news item the other day about an African-American woman who was dying but was determined to vote for Obama and held on just long enough to fill in her ballot and have one of her family mail it.

B!x posted this link on Facebook, probably Twitter as well, but I'm always behind there when I'm at work. It's a very eloquent argument by another Republican about why he is endorsing Obama .
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electricspacegirl says:

I want to apologize for my McCain comments I didn't want to call him those things. I'm sorry if I missed Barest's point. I'm really not thinking very well right now. I should stop trying to have conversations.
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catherine_31 says:

I don't think you need to feel bad, esg. We all get very emotional about this stuff, and it's been a pretty nasty campaign. My estimation of John McCain has dropped a lot, and it's hard to know sometimes how much of that is because of the stuff he's done and said, and how much of it is just me being subtly influenced by the McCain-bashing of the side I prefer. But I'll join the chorus of people who didn't necessarily agree with him, but respected the ways in which he seemed to be sincere and principled, before all this.

So very sad that Obama's grandmother didn't live to see him elected president, for him as well as for her. But if she's been lucid the last little while, I'm sure she knew things were leaning that way for him. It's such a shame.

We'll be house-sitting again tomorrow at a place with a tv, yay, so we're having some friends over and getting take-out and we'll be glued to the television I'm sure. And I'll be checking in here, of course!

See you all tomorrow! Happy almost-election-day!
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tres_shey says:

I'm a total wreck, trying very hard to stay in that positive space. Hope I can sleep tonight, I've certainly never felt like this about an election before.

RIP Madelyn Dunham, Barak's Tutu. Her passing is of course getting much more coverage on local news here in Hawaii, than elsewhere.

My two cousins who live nearby, may come over to watch election returns, there could be lots of chocolate involved. Everyone I know is so busy & stressed out right now, myself included, so nothing is definite.
I'm sticking with MSNBC, to keep my spirits up. But CNN is doing something excellent, keeping tabs on voter complaints about polling place irregularities, and something really frightening going on in Ohio. Apparently people are being called and told that their polling place has changed, when in fact, it hasn't. There were dozens of complaints on Monday, some reports say there have been hundreds of these bogus calls rerported. If the source can be tracked down, this is (according to an attorney on CNN) a federal offense.
Focusing on the positive, the most high profile news channel on TV is on this one.

Going to collapse now, Namaste and Blessed Be.
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palehorse says:

Fun site with latest up-to-the-minute tallies of betting on the presidential candidates. (Run your cursor over the chart.)
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/bookies-more-reliable-t...

There is a link to another chart where you can trace the betting odds for the last year. It is really interesting to note that, as the pundits have said, McCain shot himself in the foot on Sept. 15 when he announced that the economy is strong. His odds of winning drop dramatically. Let's hope those betting have things right.
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_Mirage says:

I’m eager that when it ends, it ends fast. But, my heart and sharp memory daunt me otherwise. Here’s hoping they’re wrong!
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barest_smidgen says:

I totally just Baracked the vote. Dig.
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

Vo...






TED!!!!

And for Willowy -

www.funnyordie.com/videos/bcf54d32d6/john-mccain-gets-bar...
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electricspacegirl says:

The day is here! The day I've been waiting for since I found out Obama was running is here! So excited!

I'm optimistic, guys. I think we can win this. But whatever you think, please VOTE. Even if you're voting for the other guy.



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nursebobbi says:

Voted! My polling place was the busiest I've seen it (in over 20 years) but they were prepared for the crowd and were quite efficient. Dave and I were out in 40 minutes. They offered us a choice of paper ballot or electronic voting machine. Most people (including Dave and me) chose paper.
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

We were in and out really fast (10 mins?). We wandered over just before 7 and over a hundred had already been through, and it was moving fairly quickly.
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barest_smidgen says:

That's right. I said "Baracked." Deal with it. ;)

Proud to be standing with you all, voting FOR something, instead of against in this important, historic election. Thanks to all who volunteered, donated, and spoke earnestly to family and friends in support of Obama. It was an extraordinary campaign, fueled by people like you all. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

A little knowledge for anyone in need (employment laws regarding voting and time off to vote by state):

employmentlawpost.com/theword/2008/10/15/time-off-to-vote...
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catherine_31 says:

Reading your post above esg's pretty picture, zeitgeist, before I noticed the link I thought you'd voted... for Willowy! Which I totally would have, if she were on the ballot. (Except I can't vote anyway).

Willowy for President! Last-minute write-in vote!
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

We know where we'll be tuned :)

www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P...
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I wish they'd swap out one of the old skool networks for an international site, D...
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LukeOfThatIlk is a group administrator LukeOfThatIlk says:

Voted! I woke up with a start at 4 a.m. to the sound of rain pounding on my little wooden roof - and thought, "oh damn." But it's somewhat bright and dry here now.

There was a healthy line of 30 or so people at the polling station. I'd filled out my mail-in ballot so I could cut to the front, but people were in good cheer, and they were serving muffins and coffee . . . :-)
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FireflyFlanatic says:

I can't wait to vote - have to wait until 4 pm because I'm going with my daughter after she gets home from school! I'm very excited to vote but she is even more excited this being her first Presidential election!!

Hope we are all back here tonight celebrating!!
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Harmalicious says:

Happy Voting Day, everyone!!! As soon as Colin gets on the bus, Josh and I are going to walk to the polls. Woo Hoo!!!!!!!! Gobama!
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bloodflowers says:

I had to pop in to give everyone a virtual hug on ELECTION DAY!

Also a heartfelt condolence to the Obama family on the loss of his grandmother. It's such a shame she didn't live to see the outcome, but maybe she had it on a higher authority that she could let go because everything will be okay.

Voting was short and sweet for me since it's a borough with (I think) under 300 registered voters and we have two--count 'em TWO--touch screen machines. I just wish I hadn't eaten such a hearty and balanced breakfast 'cause right now the suspense is making it feel like everything may go into reverse. In case I don't get back today, fingers are crossed that the next time I get to mention Barack Obama it will be as president-elect Barack Obama.

Peace, everyone!
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Willowy says:

Huzzah!!! SOOO glad to see everyone so upbeat and happy here! And thanks for all the kind words, everybody here Baracks so hard!!!

Voted, of course, it was very emotional in a hugely good way. While I was coloring in my oval I had to fight back tears. Someone on Good Morning America said that the only cause of Obama losing would be voter fraud, like the machines getting hacked or something.

I can't wait for tonight. I'm having friends over and their will be hootin' and hollerin' all night long. I was going to have a luau themed buffet, because B's from Hawaii, but I hate poi. ;-)

Speaking of Hawaii, the only dark spot in the day so far has been the news of Tutu passing. One more day! One more, and she'd have seen her wonderful grandson become president. And that shot of Barack with the tear rolling down his face? AUGH!!

Kudos to all of you that have made this behemoth-y thread what it is. I may have started it, but you all turned it into the coolest thread I've ever seen on this board. Fitting it is, that such a stellar man would be the topic of such fantastic, illuminating, fun, lively conversation amongst us all. I LOVE YOU!! :-D
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saltygoodness702 says:

So, quick question...how do you guys feel about stores that are giving away freebies for those who have voted? Starbucks is giving free coffee, Wendys a free cup of chili, In n Out Burger free shakes, and others from McDonalds, Krispy Kreme, etc. etc.

I think it is kindof nice, not that I'm going to run out and take advantage of any of it. But it shows that we are all kindof in this together and can celebrate. But this morning I mentioned it to my roommate who is a staunch Republican (and is moving out on Friday btw) and he said it was the most ridiculous stupid thing he'd ever heard....that if someone is motivated by a freebie to vote that they should just stay home, and that it is engineered to only help "one side" anyway. I questioned that and he said that it is pandering to Obama supporters because they are the only type of people who would be lured in by free stuff. He really pissed me off and though it is SUPER PETTY, I am annoyed and had to vent. Seriously, I can't WAIT until Friday. But that is beside the point.

The point is, is it wrong for companies to do this? I don't see it as motivating people to vote, rather just celebrating with people who do.
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Madhatter_ says:

Willowy, you did a great thing in opening this thread, I've learned much of the process thanks to it. :)

Yep, it's the day. I think it's going to be a tight race to the end. And, whoever takes the ring in the end, I think it was a perfect example of what sets our country apart from others.
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

Maverick-y-ness? ;) Your supreme salty-ness - definitely not catering to either side and no one is going to vote specifically to get these freebies. Well, maybe failed Wall Streeters who are now homeless, but then your roomie would probably agree those guys aren't gonna vote for Obama, so he should be in favor of this ;). Funny how few arch capitalists will balk and yell socialism when they are on the receiving end of the $700B bailout, eh?
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

I shake my head at the douchebaggery:

www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/026635.php

What he plans to do leaves taxes as a share of the economy at less than 18.2 percent, which is less than under Reagan. I would also point out that you would be getting a tax cut on that first $250 and a (to me) marginal increase of 3% above $250k.

Also - Mr Universe says to vote:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=srl8pWUL1lo
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catherine_31 says:

Oh it sounds like your roomie is just being cranky, saltygoodness. I think it's really nice. Obviously, nobody is going to vote *just* to get a free coffee, but it's a nice way of helping people celebrate this really important election. That's my two cents. (They're canadian cents, but I think they're pretty much on a par with US cents these days).
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samatwitch says:

I had to link this story here because it brought tears to my eyes:
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palehorse says:

People just go into hysteria when they hear higher taxes, and they don't even stop to think what it actually means. Just as all those $300 tax rebates sounded like such a gift -- but, of course, while it added tremendously to the national debt, it gave individuals almost nothing. For those to whom $300 makes a real difference -- those people are in such trouble financially that it doesn't help them in the long term. No jobs were created because people making $250K got $300.

Anyway, I was going to help with the Obama campaign, but a dramatic increase in what I had to do for work put an end to that. I'm glad I voted early, because it would have been tough to vote today. But I'm looking forward, with fingers crossed, to seeing those returns come in. I was so hopeful in 2000 and 2004, because both appeared to be going Democratic, and I was devastated when the results went the opposite way -- particularly in 2004, after four years of W and watching what his policies were doing to the country and to our rights. I just hope history does not repeat itself today. And, while Recount was a blast to participate in, I don't want another real recount to live through. Down here in Florida, we have that terrible nagging fear that our state is going to be singled out again for some voting problem. Take the Democratic fear of being fooled again, and double that fear with living in Florida. Yeesh.

And I will be so happy not to see any more Rev. Wright ads. We have been beaten over the head with them the last two or three days. That's the only ad the Republicans are running in northern Florida --over, and over, and over, and over.
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FireflyFlanatic says:

Ahh, Sama, that was a sweet story! Here's a link to someone's LittleBigPlanet pod (PS3 game where your character starts off). He nicely decorated it to represent Obama:

boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board....

I am also fearful that things will go wrong but I'm also more hopeful than I've been in a long time that this time it will turn out as I hope! Off to vote soon - can't wait!!
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Harmalicious says:

I am so pissed. I had to fill out a provisional ballot. The poll workers insisted my vote would be counted though, but still! ugh! I wouldn't be so mad, but I called the Voter Registration office of my county to confirm that I was registered. And they said indeed I was. I started questioning this after Eric kept getting voter mail, and I didn't. I'm not so worried about the presidency, Obama's gonna win California, but Prop. 8! I wish I knew for certain my vote was going to count and I, want to know what the hell happened. I registered at the DMV in August. Ugh....sorry to be so negative while everyone is happy. I just want my vote to count!
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catherine_31 says:

Oh Harmalicious, that's so frustrating! I'm sure it will be counted though, it sounds like somebody just screwed up somewhere along the way. If you registered, they'll be able to sort it out.
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electricspacegirl says:

Harmy, CNN has a hotline you can call and they have an investigative team that will respond. Even if you think it won't do any good, it won't hurt to make the call. People are using it to report all kinds of voting issues, and yours is one of them.
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jcurries says:

That's really frustrating, Harm. I'd be pissed, too. But I think your ballot will get counted (though maybe not tonight). Hopefully 8 will lose by a big enough margin that we won't be hanging on until the last vote counted to find out.

If you guys haven't seen Obama getting "fired up" last night, you gotta watch this: www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/4/1343/27646/349/652583
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Madhatter_ says:

Harm, were you a registered voter?
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

She said she had registered at the DMV and called to confirm it, Maddie.
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Madhatter_ says:

Opps, sorry! My mistake.
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palehorse says:

Fired up! Ready to go! Fired up! Ready to go!

Harm, I'm so sorry about your experience. We've already had ballots destroyed in my city because the poll workers used the wrong type of felt markers, and the ink bled through the ballot. So the reader couldn't read them. I haven't heard how many ballots were affected. But we also have an amendment to our constitution on the ballot that would prevent gay marriage -- and, what is not well known -- prevent any couple who is not married from having rights of visitation in hospitals, etc. Many of those people who think they are just voting against gays are going to wake up to find their own rights have been curtailed. I'm hoping against hope that this goes down in defeat, but I am tremendously fearful. So, apart from the loss of presidential votes, I worry about those lost votes that might have been against the amendment.
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Harmalicious says:

ESG, you are awesome! Thanks for the link because not only did it connect me to CNN, it connected me to my county's registrar office. I was for sure registered, but they had me living in Oakland which i don't. Someone goofed. I live in Albany and my zip code is 94706 NOT 07 which is Oakland. But because I called they found all the others in the system that were entered incorrectly. Apparently there is another address similar to mine in Oakland. Many of the folks with the same street address in my apt. building were registered in Oakland too. So, she fixed me and all of them. So, they will cross reference the updated registar list with my provisional ballot, and it will be counted. I don't know how many other voter's addresses were fixed, but i feel very patriotic right now. I'm so glad I called!
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barest_smidgen says:

That. Is. Fucking. Awesome.
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saltygoodness702 says:

Wow, that is fantastic Harm!!! GO ESG!!!! Just awesome!
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palehorse says:

Wow, Harm, good for you!!!!
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zeitgeist_1975 is a group administrator zeitgeist_1975 says:

Omg awesome!!! Go esg and go harm!!!!
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Madhatter_ says:

Wait?! What I miss?
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samatwitch says:

Great news, Harm. It does pay to be proactive! I love to hear all the stories about people's voting experiences.
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catherine_31 says:

Yay proactivity and having votes counted!
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FireflyFlanatic says:

Yay Harm!! Glad you followed through (and thanks to ESG for providing you with the link)! But, it's so sad that this type of crap is still happening and others may not have someone tell them who they can contact for help.

Happy to say I finally got to vote!! My daughter was running late too and I was getting more anxious by the moment! I'm usually one to go out and vote as early as possible but thought I'd go with my daughter for her first time this year! Feels good! Hopefully still feels good later on tonight!!
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jcurries says:

Yay esg & Harm! Way to make it happen!

(Just got my Obama cupcakes out of the oven. Here's hoping I can frost with a steady hand :)
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lone fashionable wolf says:

Yay indeed! And yay to all those Obama voters. Thanks for sharing your views and your passion here - it's taught me me plenty, and I'm grateful for your honesty and your eloquence. I'm so excited to be witnessing this (hopefully) historic event. Or sleeping though it, since I'm on the other side of the pond, but still.
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electricspacegirl says:

Wow, I actually helped save the day for some voters! Go me! Hee. Go Harm! I'm so glad you made that call. I'm also glad that a national new station is investigating all the ballot tampering and voter fraud, because everyone who is eligible to vote should be able to vote and have their vote counted.

Which makes me wonder: Why do adults have to register to vote to begin with, if voting is a right? I think every citizen of age should be automatically on the roster, and all you have to do is show ID on election day. I'm not sure if I'm missing other details, but it just seems the process could be simplified to avoid these issues.
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electricspacegirl says:

Hey, jcurries, pics of cupcakes please?
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electricspacegirl says:

Beautiful and funny Obama picspam. There's even a picture of an Obama Lama. :D
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NotaViking says:

Well, it's midnight here and I'm ready to stay up all night, but I've a feeling it'll be over relatively quickly - Indiana is too close to call. :)
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Harmalicious says:

What baffles me is why didn't the lady check my address when I called over a month ago to confirm that I was registered?
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