Farzad_K 1:09am, 31 January 2013
H,

I am looking for recommendations on what kind of Sync Cable to get for my SB-900? There are too many of them on e-bay and Nikon has two kinds of them itself. I am not sure if enhance features of these cables are needed/useful or just as long as they connect and are long enough it will be god to go.

What is your recommendation?

Thanks in advance.

Farzad
Zeroneg1 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Zeroneg1 (member) 4 years ago
Scott Strehlow Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Scott Strehlow (member) 4 years ago
I think the only real difference between the Nikon offerings is the length of the cable.

EDIT: The SC-29 has a focus assist light.

I have a very inexpensive aftermarket one that lasted several years before getting an intermittent break. I'm going to just chop the cord out and put RG-45 jacks on it so I can use Cat5 cable with it.

But aside from the extra fuss of replacement, I could go through quite a few of them for the cost of one of the Nikon cables.

But if 100% uptime is critical for you, go ahead and get the good one. You won't regret it. I just don't make any money at this so I have to go cheap where I can.
Farzad_K 4 years ago
Thanks.

How important is it to have a focus assist light in it?

It seems a couple of features may be useful. One is a sync jack that maybe can help you use flashes other than nikon?

And it looks like most come with 1/4" socket for use on a tripod.

So aside from having the ability to extend the hotshoe itself there isn't anything else that is significant?

What about chord length? Would longer chords have to be higher quality in the same way that musical instrument chords may be?
Farzad_K 4 years ago
Okay, I have a bid on e-bay on one of the SC-17's.
AtlantaTerry Posted 4 years ago. Edited by AtlantaTerry (member) 4 years ago
Do a bit of research. I think there is a difference between an SC17 and SC28 where a SB900 will not work correctly.
AtlantaTerry Posted 4 years ago. Edited by AtlantaTerry (member) 4 years ago
Zeroneg1 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Zeroneg1 (member) 4 years ago
AtlantaTerry:

What are the differences between the SC-17 and SC-28? The only real difference I see are the way it locks into the camera hot shoe (rotation lock vs crimping aka locking pin) and the positioning of the exiting cable (front vs side) but no changes in the cable or electronics.

I know the SC-29 has an IR emitter on the hot shoe base
SweetMK22 4 years ago
The SC-17 does not have the two contacts the SB- 700 flash has towards the front, but, then again, neither does my D7000 or D70s have those contacts.
Zeroneg1 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Zeroneg1 (member) 4 years ago
What two contacts?

SB-700

Nikon SC-17 flash cord

Nikon SC-17 flash cord

In this image all I see are the same ones on all Nikon flashes. Or did you mean the flat GOLD contacts on the front not the PIN/CONE-shaped contacts protruding on the base?
Farzad_K 4 years ago
A D300 also has only these four contacts - I think. I will check.
SweetMK22 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by SweetMK22 (member) 4 years ago
Zeroneg1:
What two contacts?


Yea, the two gold ones, I think the newer cable will connect to those. I do not know what they are for,

Everything on my SB-700 works without them with the SC-17.
JayFarm 4 years ago
From speed lights.net


The Nikon speedlight SB 600 has neither a PC jack nor a connector for an external battery pack. The only external interface are 2 gold color contacts at the bottom of the flash, at the front of the foot. These are used for the AF assist beam control when used with a TTL cable like the SC-29.

So presumably that holds or the 700 as well.
Zeroneg1 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Zeroneg1 (member) 4 years ago
Agreed, so we agree that there are almost no difference between SC-17 and SC-28 but there is for SC-29 due to the AF illuminator?

FYI: I only use SB-800s and SB-600s.
SweetMK22 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by SweetMK22 (member) 4 years ago
JayFarm:
These are used for the AF assist beam control when used with a TTL cable like the SC-29.


My "red laser" focus assist works just fine without the gold contacts.
I only have SC-17s', (three of them!), no others.
Oh, yea, the D7000 doesn't have any contacts there anyway, so for my camera there is no need to have the connections..

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Mr. Speedlight Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Mr. Speedlight (member) 4 years ago
Do a bit of research. I think there is a difference between an SC17 and SC28 where a SB900 will not work correctly.

Could this be the thickness of the metal plate on the SB-900? I somewhat doubt that there would be a problem with a genuine Nikon SC-17 TTL cord but I don't know.

The SC-17 does not have the two contacts the SB- 700 flash has towards the front...

Those contacts on the SB-700 are also fond on the SB-800, 900 and 910. Those are the External AF-assist Illuminator contacts for use with the SC-29 TTL cord. [As noted below the SB-600 has them also.]

I am looking for recommendations...

There are two models of the SC-17 TTL cord. The old one dose not have the small hole for the locking pin found on all current Nikon speedlights. The newer one does. I would only buy the latter model.

The pin lock isn't as important on the camera hot shoe end. The SC-17 can get kind of stuck on the camera. The lock on the SB-16B and SB-24 is pretty much identical but more problematic as it's harder to get your hand in there to loosen it. I don't tighten the lock on the SC-17 much at all. It's not prone to falling off my Cameras even when loose.

One point for the SC-17 TTL cord and probably for the 28 and 29 is the cord itself is very robust. It's fiber reinforced for a very long service life. I've made a short SC-17 TTL cord and you have to cut way the reinforcing fiber to make your solder joins. Also the memory on the coiled cord is excellent.

Dave Hartman
SweetMK22 4 years ago
Mr. Speedlight:
Those contacts on the SB-700 are also fond on the SB-800, 900 and 910. Those are the External AF-assist Illuminator contacts for use with the SC-29 TTL cord.


Oh, so the flash unit is powering the SC-29 cord. That is why the camera does not have such contacts. Now it makes sense.

My SB-600 has those contacts.
Mr. Speedlight 4 years ago
SweetMK22,

Thanks for pointing out the omission. I added the SB-600 to the list above.

Dave
Farzad_K Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Farzad_K (member) 4 years ago
Great. Thanks very much everyone. I have put a bid on one on e-bay and am going to wait and see.

I don't really need autofocus assistance at this time but who knows.

I am thinking of getting an after market SC-29 compatible chords. And there are a lot of diffterent chords out there that even work with ethernet cabels.


Update: Just found the real MacCoy on e-bay and shelled out for it.

Farzad
Mr. Speedlight 4 years ago
Farzad,

Can you tell us if it supports wide area AF Assist. The Nikon site is very breif on the SC-29. It appears to have two AF assist lamps and should support single area, dynamic and auto area AF modes on cameras and speedlights that support these features. Nikon says see your speedlight manual for specific features. These three modes are supported by my SB-800, 700 and D300s.

Thanks

Dave

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A number of cords tagged as SC-29 or for SC-29 on eBay don't even have AF illuminators at the camera end.
Farzad_K 4 years ago
Mr. Speedlight:

Yes, as soon as I get in I will let the group know.

Farzad
Farzad_K 4 years ago
Got the chord and am glad I went for the real thing.

Mr. Speedlight: The manual says very briefly:

"When the SC-29 is used with speedlight (SB-900, Sb-800, SB-700 or SB-600) featuring external AF-assist illuminator contacts, the AF-assist illuminator on the SC-29 turns on. For details on the AF-assist illuminator, see your speedlight user's manual."



Farzad
Farzad_K Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Farzad_K (member) 4 years ago
I have been using my SC-29 for a while and like it a lot. I found another opportunity a couple of weeks ago where I wanted to fire the flash to blow light from outside a door window into it in:

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Searching for a non-radio trigger solution I found that the D300 and the SB-900 both have these PC terminals that can be used to trigger an off-camera flash. Now I am in search of a good PC to PC chord.

It looks like the one that Nikon carries, the SC-15 coiled cable, is still short and this might actually be useful to connect two SB-900 together.

Are there no straight and longer PC-PC cables with the proper PC ends that screw on? The best I have found on the internet is general purpose and it doesn't screw on. Also, I am guessing the PC cables don't do TTL?

Thanks.

Farzad
Mr. Speedlight Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Mr. Speedlight (member) 4 years ago
Now I am in search of a good PC to PC chord.

This man has taken leave of his senses!

Have you considered a long TTL cord such as the 7.5 Meter (24 Feet) Straight Cord sold by Flash Zebra? It's much like your SC-29 but long and strait with no AF assist.

Why no radio? For a bit less than twice the price of the cable linked above you can buy a Phottix Strato II Multi set for Nikon. The Tx has a full TTL pass through hot shoe on top. The Strato II also offers a shutter release function. As a shutter release it has an excellent feel, half press to full. It does not offer B. There are less expensive radio trigger sets.

Did I mention that I hate PC cords? You probably guess :)

No PC cables do not offer TTL. You can find long PC cords at Flash Zebra...

Screw lock to Screw Lock PC Cords

...about $21.00 (USD) for a 10 meter (33 foot) cord.

Dave Hartman

Save your teeth! Get one of these...

www.paramountcords.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PCD
Farzad_K 4 years ago
Mr. Speedlight:

Thanks, yes it look like there are much better alternatives. I will definitely check into that TTL chord and the trigger.

Farzad
RobertFotosArg 4 years ago
Pixel Componor
www.pixelhk.com/Proshow.aspx?id=156
You can play with this and standard netword cables.
petepixxx Posted 4 years ago. Edited by petepixxx (member) 4 years ago
That is awesome! Thanks! :-)
~PetePixxx

PS still needs an IR focus light on top.
CRISTO- PRO 3 years ago
the SC-28 works with old flashes?
on other cameras?
just like a sync Cable?


thanks!
Mr. Speedlight 3 years ago
1) Yes, Nikon SB-15 to date.

2) Nikon and some Fuji DSLR(s). Nikon film SLR(s) from the early '80s onwards. F3 with a special adapter, AS-17 TTL Flash Unit Coupler. Don't confuse the AS-17 with the SC-17 TTL Cord.

3) No, all the pins of the hot shoe are extended straight through. The camera and flash don't know it's there.

Can it be used as a sync cable only. Most Nikon cameras will detect a Nikon speedlights and cap the shutter speed to the native X-sync.

Dave Harman
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