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The Yongnuo YN-565EX has been released (Canon version)! Who's buying?

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Martis Photography says:

I decided to check on eBay to see if the YN-565EX was out yet and to my surprise it is! I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy the flash but want a reseller located in the US. Amazon has some sellers that sell within the States so hopefully they get them soon.

Do you think $179.95 is worth it? I think it is...as long as you get a good copy. Hopefully their quality control improved.

cgi.ebay.com/YN565EX-Speedlite-CANON-Rebel-T3i-T3-T2i-T1i...
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MrDAT says:

Lets hope they don't break.
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gainful government [deleted] says:

Until they are on the Yongnuo site (which it isn't), I dont believe they have been released.
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decoboy-downunder says:

As a regular user of their flashes/remotes, I just received a personal email from a Yongnuo staff member advising me they are now ready to ship (I had asked them to inform me).

Have ordered 2, typically takes only 4-5 days for them to be in my hands.
Will advise on my experience with them ASAP
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Mike Rollerson Photography says:

I've always been a big fan of the YN stuff - Loved the 460's (I and II), 465's, and a bunch of their accessories.. but at $179 I'm going to hold off a bit. While looking to be a clone of the 580EX at about half the price.. it's still a clone/knockoff.

And while a lot of YN's stuff has been great for me, I've also had some "deal breaker" issues with them (ones that could be forgiven on a $40 flash but not so much on a $180 flash) - all worked fine at first, but developed these problems later on (which makes it hard to check for a good copy).. plus all of the issues with zoomheads (that I haven't experienced myself, but seem to be a big issue).

It looks like they've made some sort of 580EX mutant out of it, but took most of it from the 580EX (opposed to 580EXII), using the stuff from the 580EXII that people didn't really like. It's got the old screw-down locking mechanism (instead of the twist-lock), it's got a + dial opposed to a wheel, it's got the 580EXII's Zoom/Slave button (opposed to the 580's Manual/Slave/Off switch). it also looks to be missing a High-Speed-Sync mode (unless it's just not listed?)

I'm really interested in it, but I think I'm going to wait for some reviews this time around. At $180 it's a bit of an investment -- I was expecting something closer to $129.. $149 max.
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Tim Henrion says:

I'd have to agree with @Mike Rollerson. As Yongnuo attempts to break out of the lowend, they're going to have to content with a whole bunch of new issues. Specifically they're going to have to contend with people who have to make the decision of whether the missing features (vs. an actual Canon flash) or "old design vs. new design" are worth the price difference.

For me once you get into the Canon E-TTL area (i.e. out of the Strobist total manual flash world), there are two things that are absolute musts for me: HSS and PocketWizard Flex/Mini compatibility. I rely on both of these daily and no amount of price difference is worth giving these up.

However, with challenges come opportunity. If Yongnuo could get their units to work with PocketWizard Flex and don't have the RFI problems that 580 EX IIs have, they'd open themselves up as an interesting alternative to PocketWizard Canon users.
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marceloshak says:

Delivery:
Estimated between Mon. Aug. 29 and Mon. Sep. 12
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rebel memory [deleted] says:

Humble, aren't we? $200, or $40, for a flash that dies soon is no bargain.
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Hutjeflut says:

let the reviews come !
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rudy__ says:

No HSS and does not work as a master. Those are significant omissions. But for $150 they would be worth it, if they don't fail after a year. The failure part is what concerns me.
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☣ cUKi says:

ilovu1 said:

If you guys can't afford a flash for under $200.00, then get out of the field of flash photography. So stop complaining
Hey, it's like saying that if you can't afford the actual 580EX II, then you don't belong to this fancy club. Sorry, but that's crap. I don't need another E-TTL flash, but I still might consider buying one for the right price. Lots of people can afford to spend under $200 on a good flash, they just can't afford experiments at that same price tag.

There are a few other third party Wireless E-TTL II flashes out there (Sigma, Metz, Nissin), they support the full EX feature set, they're well built, time tested and they come at comparable prices. So tell me why should we even consider the YN with its incomplete feature set, just because other flashes of theirs (namely, the 460-II) were great deals?

I wonder how can they get away with so obviously copying Canon's designations and case designs? They did that with the ST-E2 too.
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Hutjeflut says:

No HSS and does not work as a master. Those are significant omissions. But for $150 they would be worth it, if they don't fail after a year. The failure part is what concerns me.

if that price translates to euros as all the other yongnuo gear does ( 1:1 ) i think the nissin DI866 MKII here is the better deal wich does offer a master and a HSS feature

@ cuki indeed in dont mess with my money i need a 95% guarantee its good or i dont want it as many i also can only spend money once.
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_tharaka says:

I can't tell from that little red window on the front, but does it have focus assist?
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elv0000 says:

cgi.ebay.com/YN-565EX-Flash-Speedlite-Canon-1100D-1000D-6...

I'd much prefer a second hand 430exII, more power, HSS, and it will still be working in 12 months (likely many years). $60 for a YN-560 is worth the risk.
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darynthe says:

Hey! ***noob alert*** I am brand new in photography. Got my first reflex camera one month ago. Now I just ordered this flash which will be my first eva. I read it would be either manual and automatic and similar to the best of canon.

Now reading this thread you guys got me worried. so is there a way to compensate the lack of HSS? I plan to start in baby photography. I also bought a couple of 603 triggers. Do they work with this? I thought they would compensate the lack of HSS....
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Mike Rollerson Photography says:

For anyone with these (either currently, or getting them), can you test them with one of the (non-yongnuo) external battery packs (The Canon CP-E4, or PiXeL TD-381)?

I use these constantly on the 580EXII and would hope they would work for this -- I noticed it does have a port for one, but the line about "External power: YONGNUO external charging boxes like SF-18C, SF-17C" has me a bit unsure (with some of the changes they've done recently, I wouldn't be too surprised if it only supported the Yongnuo external packs)
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kyhsmith52 says:


Why would you need HSS for baby photography? I use the RF-602 triggers with my Canon 430exII (and my other flashes!) without issue. I cannot imagine why there would be an issue with the RF-603 and the YN-565 flash. As I do not have either, this is only my best guess.
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stesind says:

The thing is, when do you need HHS and I already have a ST-E2. Also a used 430EXII does not come with warranty. So I bought a YN-565EX here: cgi.ebay.com/YN-565EX-Flash-Canon-7D-400D-450D-500D-550D-...

There are a couple of re-sellers already on ebay, but I would rather stay with the highly recommended. I asked mine if I could send it back in case it is not working properly and they agreed.
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rudy__ says:

@stesind - No a used 430EX does not come with a warranty but if it works when you get it then it will likely work for a long time to come. This is not always the case with YN flashes.

There tends to be a fair number that just die over time and your warranty will likely not cover it. While your re-seller may have agreed to take back a non-working flash I'm sure that the time frame that they will allow a return will be very limited. Hopefully you will never have to find this out.

I hope you get it soon and it works well for you. I'm sure most of us hope the YN-565EX is a reliable performer.
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darynthe says:

Ok, so after I got to read this thread I actually cancelled my purchase of the YN 565. I am considering now instead the new Nissin Di866 Mark II which is 80 bucks more expensive but is master, has a small fill in flash, has HSS and plus has two years guarantee with the price of the return shipping included. I think this is extremely nice..... Anyone any ideas about this? I want to be sure this time before ordering!!!
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rudy__ says:

Hey the YN565 could be a fantastic flash. (I hope it is) But I would like to see some confirmation of this first before I would buy one.
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MrDAT says:

For that price, it could be a great TTL/CLS flash. But as a manual only, it's 2x as expensive as the SB-28s I buy.
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Mike Rollerson Photography says:

I'll also point out that while Yongnuo does offer a 1-year warranty (I think this only applies if you purchased from them directly - usually this is a higher cost), the warranty is a hassle to take advantage of (you pay return shipping to Hong Kong - in my case it was around $15), wait about 3 weeks for them to receive it, wait for them to either repair/replace it (to me, it took a number of "We'll take care of it, don't worry" replies when checking the status (they eventually shipped it back about 3 weeks later), and then the usual ~2 week return time. While it is definitely worth the $15 return cost for the 565, it's the 7-8 week turnaround time (in my experience) that ruins the deal. With their lower priced items (manual-only flashes) it's questionable on if it's even worth exchanging.
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stesind says:

@rudy: Yes you may be right that normally 430EXII fail less, but I am thinking on guys want to sell their used one in the big bay because it felt a few times down and does not work that well any more. Then you stuck without warranty and cannot return it. It is just the same as with lenses. I guess most second hand lenses have some flaws.

Thats why I rather bought a Yongnuo YN-565EX with one year warranty. Also the seller offers 1 year warranty and 1 week send back. Since I already know the reseller from my earlier purchases I know that they really care about customer satisfaction.

BTW: I have seen that they are selling it in their own shop for just USD172: thephotogadget.com/en/content/yongnuo-yn-565ex-wireless-t...

If you rather buy from ebay go here: cgi.ebay.com/YN-565EX-Flash-f-Canon-1000D-1100D-40D-50D-6...
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stesind says:

@darynthe: I often heart about compatibility and quality issues with the 866DI. So it is good that you have 2 years of warranty. Also some compatibility issues seems to be fixed. Recently a friend told me that it is even working with Yongnuo's ST-E2. I personally would choose a German Metz flash over a Nissin. They cost the same and Metz has a good record of quality and compatibility. Look here www.metz.de/en/photo-electronics/product-families/system-...
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actually shirt [deleted] says:

I own 4 YN460's and use them semi-regularly. It's been about 2 years since I bought them and barring a few initial modifications they all still work perfectly. I even dropped one which sadly cracked the front flash window but even with the crack it still works 100%.

These new 565's look good on paper but the price is a little high. At this price range I'd rather add an extra 10-20$ and buy Sigma EF 530 DG Supers. I have two of those too and they are obviously much more powerful that the YN460's and have all the features you will ever need on a flash.
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rebel memory [deleted] says:

Gotta agree that the Metz flashes look like they have everything... EXCEPT good recycle time (5 sec). To get fast recycle it takes the P76 $350 additional battery (heavy) & $40 cable. ==$800 total.
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stesind says:

Sometimes it is just the way how one measures the recycle times.
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Hutjeflut says:

I often heart about compatibility and quality issues with the 866DI. So it is good that you have 2 years of warranty. Also some compatibility issues seems to be fixed. Recently a friend told me that it is even working with Yongnuo's ST-E2. I personally would choose a German Metz flash over a Nissin

i have the 866 and it not only has a 2 year warrantee you also have the ability to update its firmware so most issues can actualy be fixed by updating firmware wich is a great feature.
also the metz was my first option but it was 50% more expencive here (282 euro instead of 192 for the nissin) all other flashses didnt have HSS wich i wanted for macro :)

and yes measurements of recycle times are different the nissin on paper is slow with almost 4.5 seconds but in reality thats only when you flash full power wich i havewnt needed yet so the recycle time is less then a second most of the time.
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darynthe says:

@Stesind and Hjeflut:
Thanks for the feedback. I just got the Nissin 866 Mr II. I sorta fell in love with the features and guarantee! I also found some photos taken with it that stole my breath away : www.flickr.com/photos/ilcoe/5134712171/in/set-72157624639...
I just checked out the Metz first but I have to report that the price is actually about 100 more and it is out of my reach for a first flash as an amateur. (Looks like a Mercedes of flashes. However I have been known to drive Toyotas only, hehe)
Great thing about the seller is they will UPS it in four days. *squees*

I have a word of admirations for wilgeti from ebay. Guys, purchase the Yn 565Ex from him, he is a very nice and honest seller. He actually refunded me 100% no hassle when I asked for it yesterday.

myworld.ebay.ca/wilgeti/
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dogdawoofa says:

For that price, Nissin Di622 MkII is a much safer bet. This brand of flash is too fragile.
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darynthe says:

Thanks dogdawoofa. The only thing I don't like is that I think it has the word PROFESIONAL in big uppercase letters marked on top of the flash. Maybe I am wrong, but if so, it is kinda flashy. (no pun intended)
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MrDAT says:

Yeah, those flashes make great photos.. wait, what?
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☣ cUKi says:

Nice pic! On the first few uses, the Nissin 866 flashes may produce a heavy black smoke. Don't worry about that, it's normal and looks cool :)

In the Metz specs they don't mention if it can act as a CW commander, nothing about the groups, ratios, ergonomics of setting them etc. When purchasing for this kind of features, users review is priceless.

So, how does the 866 behave as a master? Does it implement the whole set of functions, is it easy to set up, does it a good job?
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Hutjeflut says:

the 866 MKII has 4 as master has 4 channels and for each channel you can set the zoom to auto or manual 24/28/35/50/70/85/105mm

at each channel you have A/B/C/M wich you can set to M or TTL and a lot more thats WAY over my head when in TTL something like TTL A:B - 1:1 / 1:2.8 / 1:4 / 1:8 when your at B and C is just TTL again then.
anyway as i dont get aut of manual flash mode for now its way over my head but maby this info makes sense to you.

its verry easy to set up as its a simple arrow menu basicly the whole flash is simple to setup apart from optical slave wich is well hidden and not described in the manual.
( go to manual mode and hold set button then set slave to SD )
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darynthe says:

Yes, Hutjeflut, I was trying to find out if there was a optical slave in the flash before purchasing but couldn't find it written in so many words anywhere. I just thought it probably did as it talked about being triggered even by a film camera flash.

I found far more info about the Yn 565EX than about either the Metz Af58I or the Ni866 MkII.

@Mr Dat and Mr CuKI: very funny. I think I'll like it here. :p
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elv0000 says:

Apparently they are $165 from YongNuo if you pay direct to their Paypal account.

(not that I'm recommending them, I think well hear a lot more of the unhappy campers now that its more $$ to loose, $60 for the 560 is worth the gamble).
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dogdawoofa says:

Here is slave function demonstration with Nissin Di622 mk2

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q_Fu4qnRL4&feature=related
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小小逸-PEK says:

Hi everybody,

Im from Beijing and the YN 565 EX is officially released here one week ago...

Here are some video tutorials on our local video website. Hope these are useful for u to get familiar with the stuff.

www.soku.com/search_video/q_%E6%B0%B8%E8%AF%BAYN565EX%E9%...
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Martis Photography says:

I have 3 YN-560's and although I had issues with some, once I started buying from Amazon, I haven't had any issues. There are sellers who sell the YN-560 on Amazon and are located in America. The prices are great and you not only get the flash faster, but if you have to return it you don't have to spend as much money shipping it and you don't have to wait as long to get a replacement. Hopefully these sellers will have some YN-565's in stock soon. After I bought the YN-560's from China and had multiple problems, I stopped. I will buy from Amazon from now on, much less of a headache.
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Shrikrishna Pundoor says:

+1 for wilgeti
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@DeLarrenSr says:

 Martis: Well said and true!!
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Blaise - Mariages 06 says:

Leo - thanks for the feedback.

I'll pass until a HSS version is available.

In the meanwhile, for those looking at a full featured flash cheaper than the 580 ex II, there is the cheap sigma 530 super which has all the canon 580 ex II features + optical slave (not 100% reliable when it comes to proper exposure in ETTL and which is why I've migrated to 580 ex II years ago)
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Karlo Vuk (Kuv.zg) says:

Agreed. It is OT, but I don't see why so many people find HSS so important.
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senorito_ako says:

The YN guys (ebay seller hkyongnuo) d*cked me around. They totally did not honor the said 1 year warranty. I don't expect the YN flash to last a lifetime but I do, at the very least, expect them to support me for 1 full year.

www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157624653680531/...

I'd look at the Metz 50 af-1. It's a bit more but the brand is reputable and almost match the OEM flashes.

"'The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.'"
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elv0000 says:

HSS is really important for an on camera TTL flash when your doing fill flash outside in bright ambient. Otherwise your stuck at the camera max sync speed which makes it hard to get nice wide apertures for portraits etc.
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rudy__ says:

"HSS is really important for an on camera TTL flash when your doing fill flash outside in bright ambient. Otherwise your stuck at the camera max sync speed which makes it hard to get nice wide apertures for portraits etc. "

I agree.

A ND filter doesn't help me since I don't have time to remove it between shots when I go for a smaller aperture. And I need all the light I can get to get a higher shutter speed to not record movement with long lenses. (shooting sports) Even though you lose a lot of power with HSS it still has worked well for me. Typically I have the flash set for -3 just to provide a touch of fill.
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☣ cUKi says:

A HSS flash is also useful as a master in order to freeze motion with older studio flashes at high shutter speeds, using the HSS trick. Or to freeze motion without studio flashes, but from up-close or by using a bank of several HSS-capable speedlights.
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modulartechnix says:

F.yeaaaah! My 565EX arrived today! Only downside is that I am working til 5'o clock, so I have to wait some hours to try it. :)))))
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Karlo Vuk (Kuv.zg) says:

The first (not very informative) reviews are starting to arrive:
www.reddotphoto.com.sg/content.php/263-Yongnuo-YN-565EX-R...
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Clement&Rika says:

@ and

When you set your camera to 1/8000 sec, each pixel is exposed for 1/8000 sec but the time elapsing between the first exposed pixel and the last exposed pixel is still your sync speed. Your curtains won't travel faster
That's why the blades of this helicopter are curved:
www.vancouversun.com/business/fp/yourmoney/5269389.bin?si...

When you use HSS at 1/8000 sec the flash will flicker during 1/200 sec, so I agree with , you should use the flash in normal mode, the flash burst will be shorter.
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elv0000 says:

Fast flash duration will only freeze motion if there is no ambient light in the image.

HSS still freezes to the extent of which ever shutter speed you can acheive, whether there is flash in the image or not.
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rudy__ says:

@ I don't photograph helicopter rotor blades. But I do want to use a larger aperture. Shooting at the sync speed forces me to go to a smaller aperture. And a ND filter is not an option since I shoot under varying conditions (front lit, back lit, sun to cloud cover changes) and have no time to add or remove a filter. HSS works best for some situations.
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☣ cUKi says:

Yep, a lot of fast moving objects will appear distorted (slanted) on the vertical, and spinning objects would look like spirals. This is how the shutter works. If you want to freeze big and fast moving objects without such distortion, you can forget about the fast (curtain) shutter speed, and instead light your scene with a very fast flash burst - as from a speedlight at low power, or an actual strobe (stroboscope). This only happens with focal plane shutters, but there are other kinds of shutter out there and they don't suffer from this limitation.
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STEV0. says:

hello leo@m,please do a test for me
I'm interested in measuring the ttl precision from yn565
if you put your camera inside , on a tripod with constant ambient light :will the flash output be the same on every picture ?
i presume you may compare the histogram or use a light meter.
at least the test wiil demonstrate if the ttl is constant, and we may expect repeatability from yn565.
thanks a lot
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elv0000 says:

Leo its probably a long shot but I'm sure there would be a lot of people interested if these work with the Radiopopper JrX studio (as in change manual power settings).

Would be interesting to know if they work with the cheaper TTL triggers too (Pixel, Phottix) but thats likely a long shot too.

(The RP PX are probably the ones they will work with but I don't imagine many would buy high end triggers for a budget flash).
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Mike Rollerson Photography says:

Just out of curiousity - is the backlight on the 565 actually red like that? (I thought it was green like on Canon flashes).

Just seeing that, it would be kind of neat if they had a red/green mode displaying the ready status (so you can glance at them and see if they're not ready yet, as sometimes the Ready LED is hard to spot from a distance (and the beep can be hard to track down with multiple flashes)
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gainful government [deleted] says:

SCREECHING HALT!

"Unfortunately the 1100D I have here won't work with my YN STE2, Canon changed something in their TTL protocol for this and the 60D"

Definitely??

Arghhh, was thinking of getting a YN ste2 not so long ago! Thank god I picked up a very cheap 580ex instead!

This is one of the reasons why I always recommend people buy Canon guns for their Canon cameras in TTL mode, I was thinking about ignoring my own advice.
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elv0000 says:

Thanks Leo, atleast that puts an end to any speculation over Radiopopper compatibility.

Will have to confirm the King & Odin TTL triggers yet to be 100% sure, but it does look unlikely.
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emmagination says:

I ran a few tests. The new YN-565EX can also be fired from the Radio Popper PX triggers too: cheesycam.com/yongnuo-yn-565ex-with-radio-popper-px/
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fransener says:

Hi all

Interesting discussion, esp great info about Radiopoppers. I've added the flash to the Canon compatibility table that I've been maintaining, together with the info from here and my own research so far.

Could I ask you the favor to add your own experience if you own this flash?

speedlights.net/2011/02/19/yongnuo-compatibility-with-canon-dslr

So far I have 1100D, T1i (my own Canon body), and 7D info. But - as we have to assume - it's not compatible with all bodies from Canon.

Thanks!
Frank
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© Sakthivel says:

Question 1.
If price is not a matter, should I buy Canon 430 EX II or YN 565?

Question 2.
YN 565 would work as a ETTL Master falsh like 580 EX II while on camra? Can it pass the TTL information to slave 430 EX II as a master?
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rudy__ says:

The YN565 does not work as a master. If price is not an issue I would buy a 580EX.
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fransener says:

Hi Leo - thanks for the info - means that it's not a general problem -- but probably an issue with my specific flash.

To make sure the error was not on my end I used my Canon ST-E2 with YN-565 and my 430EX II, both in slave mode - the Yongnuo didn't fire, but the Canon did work. I switched off the Canon so that it can't confuse the YN-565 but still did not work.

Then, without changing anything on the YN-565, I used the Yongnuo ST-E2 as a master, and the YN565 flash fired off.

Again, no settings changed but then using D80 pup-up flash in master mode - worked also with YN565.

Finally, D90 in master mode: YN-565 as slave does not fire. To make sure there's nothing wrong with the D90 I took an SB-700 instead of the YN565, which worked without problems.

Not sure what I could have made wrong?! Everything was set to channel 1, group A, the YN-565 was in slave mode "cn".

Thanks for any further ideas / thoughts.
Frank
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Jerry P. H. says:

Karlo Vuk (Kuv.zg) says:
...but I don't see why so many people find HSS so important.
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Easy... try shooting at a wide aperture... let's say F/2.8 in bright daylight conditions without a ND filter and add some fill flash to remove some shadows.

In my example below, I could shoot at F/2.8 with a Nikkor 135mm F/2 at ISO 100 and use some fill flash and properly expose the subjects, thanks to some balanced fill flash.

I also managed to get the sunlight under control a little better because I was shooting at 1/1,250th of a second (that's one-thousand, two-hundred-fifty, not 1/250th).

If I was forced to use 1/250th, I would be also forced to use an aperture of no less than F/6.1 to get the same exposure, which would give me a totally different background that IMHO takes away from the photo in this case.

BeaverLake-11

Try doing it for yourself and see the differences. HSS plays a very important part in my tool-kit, as I shoot often in bright conditions and want a blurred background or use very wide apertures.

Sure, one could use a good quality ND filter, but then again, you need more time to adjust if it is a variable ND filter, or you lose versatility and sharpness if it is not a high quality filter. On top of that, no matter what ND filter you use, be ready to remove and replace often over the course of a day... that is just a time waster and I prefer to just raise the shutter speed above sync to get the job done.

Edit:
When the Nikon version comes out, I may either wait and see if someone wants to do some tests with the PW ControlTL units, or I may just get a couple and see if they would work. Either way, if they did not do HSS, that would be a deal breaker for me, no matter what the price.
Originally posted 96 months ago. (permalink)
Jerry P. H. edited this topic 96 months ago.

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Myra Mains says:

@ Leo @ IM: I can confirm that YN565 flash level control does not work with the Radiopopper JrX Studio/ RP Cube (for Canon,) at least not out of the box. I keep hoping I'll find some magic setting that will enable this, but I seriously doubt it.
96 months ago (permalink)

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Lench101 says:

i might not be asking this of the right flash, but how consistant is the colour temperature? my YN460 was shifted quite a bit to the the blue end of the spectrum (really noticable when using with my 550EX)
95 months ago (permalink)

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Vivian Chung Photography (KJmeow) says:

I have the same problem, I use RF-602 with the older version flashes, everything from Canon 420, 580 to 580exll and then Youngnuo own flash line up to 560(?)...work perfectly~
Then I was having a really bad luck day as I manage to kill both of my canon 580ex ll on a wedding job last month, leaving me with no ettl flashes (Not that I use it very often..)

My sister brought me two brand new YN-565ex from Hong Kong, and then the strangest thing, I can't get the YN-565ex to trigger by the RF-602. At first I thought it was because of battery problem, then I try to use the SN mode...then out of no where, I tried it on a pair of catus wireless (my back up pair), and the 565ex fired!

It's so wired, I try to search everywhere and seem like no one had mention this problem except a couple post back up from view photostream
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94 months ago (permalink)

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Myra Mains says:

@Lench101: My 565 is definitely a bit blue, but it doesn't vary noticeably with power level.
94 months ago (permalink)

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Brigantino says:

do someone had problems in configuring 7d+YN565?
i set Mode SL,cn, channels etc but the 7d couldnt command it.
It fires only when the internal flash of the 7d flashes.

Can someone help?
Thank you
94 months ago (permalink)

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TriggerHappyDave says:

@Brigantino - If I understand you correctly are you trying to trigger the flash from a Canon 7D without the internal pop-up flash or hot shoe trigger? This isn't possible even with a Canon Flash - the internal/pop-up flash is the trigger - it can be set to act as a flash + trigger or trigger only.
93 months ago (permalink)

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imidaho says:

I'm considering buying one of these and I wanted to ask if what i'm hoping to do is possible. I'd like to throw this in a softbox and be able to adjust the manual power level from my 600D body without having to rip it open every time. I believe it to be possible to control the flash from my camera body but will it have trouble communicating through the softbox as i stand behind it?
93 months ago (permalink)

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ldelarosa_photos says:

Wireless ETTL mode, M-mode and Multi. automatic zoom is not displayed, this is normal? I select the zoom manually?
92 months ago (permalink)

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rossrke says:

Hi
I've been looking into getting a new flash and thought i could ask on this thread about the yn 565
I can get it for just over 100quid on ebay but have been considering options from the nissin 866 and canon 550ex
which would you choose?
I currently have a canon 420ex which i have enjoyed learning about but it doesn't have manual power.
As far as i can see the Olympic difference is the other two can act as a master controller but i have a trigger radio cheap thing to do that for one flash off camera-presume the 550 could fire my 420?
Thanks in advance
90 months ago (permalink)

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