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LP160 - new flash
brezeljo
11:56pm, 16 March 2010
Cameratools published the coming-out of a new Lumopro flash as a replacement of the LP120
[www.cameratools.nl/default.asp?newsitem=404&pageid=115]
At least, that's what I understand, dutch is definitely not my language ;-)
[www.cameratools.nl/default.asp?newsitem=404&pageid=115]
At least, that's what I understand, dutch is definitely not my language ;-)
elv0000
14 years ago
Quote" 2x meer licht "
Not exactly sure what that means but but it does sound good :-)
Not exactly sure what that means but but it does sound good :-)
Here's Googles translation of one of the paragraphs:
"The Lumopro LP160 stronger in light (more light output aperture 1 = 2x more light), flexibility in power (1 / 64 to 1 / 1) for use as slave (using strobes flashed along with other optical slave function with the possibility of the so-called . Fläsch pre-ignore), electronic zoomkop for better targeting of the light, tilting and swivel flash head including 7 degrees tilt (this allows the flash head even more focused in the heart of such an umbrella. Besides these technical improvements is the improved construction, hot metal shoes for a solid installation and a robust housing allowing the flash can take a beating. It can trigger the flash via hot shoe, sync or mini-jack connector which ensures a stable, never a moment miss"
"The Lumopro LP160 stronger in light (more light output aperture 1 = 2x more light), flexibility in power (1 / 64 to 1 / 1) for use as slave (using strobes flashed along with other optical slave function with the possibility of the so-called . Fläsch pre-ignore), electronic zoomkop for better targeting of the light, tilting and swivel flash head including 7 degrees tilt (this allows the flash head even more focused in the heart of such an umbrella. Besides these technical improvements is the improved construction, hot metal shoes for a solid installation and a robust housing allowing the flash can take a beating. It can trigger the flash via hot shoe, sync or mini-jack connector which ensures a stable, never a moment miss"
hehehe....Guys, I remember the days of trying to translate emails from my german friends using Babelfish. I am actually amazed at how well Google translated this piece. Babelfish will never grace my address bar again...
quackator2000
14 years ago
Kop in Dutch menas head.
So it has a zoom head, and "2x meer licht" means double output
(twice as much).
So it has a zoom head, and "2x meer licht" means double output
(twice as much).
Bippa1
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by Bippa1 (member) 14 years ago
+1 quackator2000
"2 x more light"
Zoomkop = zoom head
"2 x more light"
Zoomkop = zoom head
tehbizz
14 years ago
I think it's talking about European distribution as it does say that Cameratools worked with (or something, I didn't translate it) MPEX on the flash.
perry_maurice
14 years ago
Sounds great. I own a pair of lp120's and I'm very happy with them, but I think I will go for the upgrade...
JakesJunk
14 years ago
I hope the LP160 works with the RadioPopper JrX Studios to remotely control power levels.
rebel memory [deleted]
14 years ago
Now that would be an interesting electronic feat! Putting a *quench pin* on a strictly manual flash.
I wonder if they can make an adapter for electronic level control, like a Wein peanut uses the light flash to turn it on/off? Like the manual *resister* level controls on the Viv 283s but with radio volume control?
I wonder if they can make an adapter for electronic level control, like a Wein peanut uses the light flash to turn it on/off? Like the manual *resister* level controls on the Viv 283s but with radio volume control?
full harbor [deleted]
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by full harbor (member) 14 years ago
camera tools - english version
LumoPro LP160 Manual Flash (in Stock 2nd week April)
Improvements
- 1 stop more power (Twice as powerful)
- 1 stop less power 1/64th
- Improved overall body design.
- Metal Hot shoe
- Normal optical slave AND digital optical slave (Digital optical slave
ignores the preflash of flashes when you use in conjunction with a TTL setup.)
- Electronic Zoom
- 7degree tilt for macro work.
€119.00
LumoPro LP160 Manual Flash (in Stock 2nd week April)
Improvements
- 1 stop more power (Twice as powerful)
- 1 stop less power 1/64th
- Improved overall body design.
- Metal Hot shoe
- Normal optical slave AND digital optical slave (Digital optical slave
ignores the preflash of flashes when you use in conjunction with a TTL setup.)
- Electronic Zoom
- 7degree tilt for macro work.
€119.00
didactic ticket [deleted]
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by didactic ticket (member) 14 years ago
It is out! I just ordered two (€ 119,- a piece) from Cameratools. Also I ordered a Cactus V4 Radio Slave Set. May the strobing begin... Can't wait.
kerrloud
14 years ago
I just spoke with "Ferdinand" at Midwest photo and he couldn't say when the LP160's would be available here in the States. He said he thought the units were still being "tested" and wouldn't eloborate to much more that that. I asked what the retail price was and he said around $150.
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
I'm sorry but nothing has been released yet. CameraTools does not have it in-stock.
Moishe
Moishe
High_plains
14 years ago
does this mean that the 120 will no be produced? The reason I say this I noticed that the price of the 120's can be found at $40 on ebay now
rogermbyrne
14 years ago
Just found this also re the 160
www.cameranu.nl/artikel/85954/Lumopro_LP160_Manual_Flash....
Any news on a release date yet?
www.cameranu.nl/artikel/85954/Lumopro_LP160_Manual_Flash....
Any news on a release date yet?
Trent Williams
14 years ago
Any news on these? Where can I order them from? I will take any SB80, LP120, or LP160 I can get.
jan.cobalt
14 years ago
Well, two weeks ago I got an email from Cameratools.nl - saying the LP160 would be out in middle may... - which was these days, but still no "tadaaaa"...
The LumoPro website is not offering any answers and LP did not replied my email as well..., - so, does anybody have an idea how to get the LP160 release date out of LumoPro guys?
JC - the unpatient one
The LumoPro website is not offering any answers and LP did not replied my email as well..., - so, does anybody have an idea how to get the LP160 release date out of LumoPro guys?
JC - the unpatient one
Telorga
14 years ago
I just receive an e-mail from cameratools, and the LP 160 should be available at the end of next week at a price of 129€...
Wait and see
Wait and see
Old Nikon Rangefinder shooter
14 years ago
I will wait for Midwest Photo Exchanges shows that they have them "in" and they have been tested for reliability.
jan.cobalt
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by jan.cobalt (member) 14 years ago
Gary, I think in UK (and EU) the only option is CameraTools.nl. The product page was on their site for a couple of weeks, but after market launch has delayed (already by month+) the CT removed the page (maybe too much preorders as they had replaced the LP120 by LP160 in strobist kits without rising the price of kit... )
Tech data for LP160 can be found at news section of cameratools (post from 4.3.2010) - but only in Dutch - I used translate.google.com and it was understandable.
As you noticed, flashes are not available yet, but we are hoping they are out soon... (I am waiting more than month for my to be shipped :((( - i'm going nuts... )
Telorga - thanx for the updated news from CT.
JC
Tech data for LP160 can be found at news section of cameratools (post from 4.3.2010) - but only in Dutch - I used translate.google.com and it was understandable.
As you noticed, flashes are not available yet, but we are hoping they are out soon... (I am waiting more than month for my to be shipped :((( - i'm going nuts... )
Telorga - thanx for the updated news from CT.
JC
Kibwe Brathwaite
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by Kibwe Brathwaite (member) 14 years ago
still waiting...
and waiting...
and waiting...
Silver Image (3M views - Thank You!)
14 years ago
I think I'll wait for the euro to keep falling and I'll get one for about $25 ;-)
jan.cobalt
14 years ago
Tonight's the night... and it's going to happen again...
- it seems like we will have to wait another week... or does anybody have any update on LP160?
- it seems like we will have to wait another week... or does anybody have any update on LP160?
jan.cobalt
14 years ago
I am starting to suffer from some disorder - anybody simmilar symptoms?:
"Well, when did I check the Lumopro site last time?
Like 5 minutes ago? - there must be some update now, i have to check!
- hmmm, nothing... :(
... Well, when did I check the Lumopro site last time?..."
"Well, when did I check the Lumopro site last time?
Like 5 minutes ago? - there must be some update now, i have to check!
- hmmm, nothing... :(
... Well, when did I check the Lumopro site last time?..."
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
Sorry again for the delays. We are setting announcement and release for Tuesday next week. No guarantees. I'm doing my best.
Bread crumbs: All 1,000 units tested by hand. One bad unit found. Lots on thier way to CameraTools. The 1,000 units should last around a month. Another 1,000 on order should be here in another month. New kits coming next week as well.
Moishe
Bread crumbs: All 1,000 units tested by hand. One bad unit found. Lots on thier way to CameraTools. The 1,000 units should last around a month. Another 1,000 on order should be here in another month. New kits coming next week as well.
Moishe
jan.cobalt
14 years ago
Moishe, does the same date of availability apply for European market (cameratools.nl) as well?
Any idea on the cycle time, flash duration?
Does it have external battery pack connector?
Does it have a sleep mode that can be disabled?
Does it have external battery pack connector?
Does it have a sleep mode that can be disabled?
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
@jan: CameraTools should have them by Wednesday. No guarantees, never know what Customs is going to do.
Moishe
Moishe
Joey (aka Pepe)
14 years ago
Whoa!
, I have an international order in the pipeline with you guys, and now I know why you haven't been able to give me a shipping quote! Or maybe you guessed that I really want to add one of these flashes to my order, so why give me 2 separate quotes? :-P Looking forward to these! Do you see any problems shipping to South America?
FWIW, I am setting my post for 1pm Eastern Time to be safe. I am in UK, and will not be at my desk when 12:00 drops around.
But I have played with it and it is cool. :)
But I have played with it and it is cool. :)
rebel memory [deleted]
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by rebel memory (member) 14 years ago
12:10 and I'm wearing out my *refresh* button...
Finally! over TEN MINUTES late! ;-)
www.mpex.com/browse.cfm/4,14648.html
And they announced on Facebook first! I feel slighted...
edit: OK, so the flickr TOS won't allow sales annoucements. ;-)
Finally! over TEN MINUTES late! ;-)
www.mpex.com/browse.cfm/4,14648.html
And they announced on Facebook first! I feel slighted...
edit: OK, so the flickr TOS won't allow sales annoucements. ;-)
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
I won't be making any announcements on Flickr, although it would be my first choice. Doing so would go against Flickr's TOS, and I am happy to respect that. Considering that this thread has been mostly about delivery and delays. It might be good for someone to post a new thread with a Question/Answer subject. I will chime in on that if necessary.
That being said, this project could not have been possible without this group's support, suggestions, help, feedback etc. Thank you all so much. You won't find comments like this anywhere else from us (facebook, twitter, etc.) I really mean it.
Moishe
That being said, this project could not have been possible without this group's support, suggestions, help, feedback etc. Thank you all so much. You won't find comments like this anywhere else from us (facebook, twitter, etc.) I really mean it.
Moishe
primo synchro
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by primo synchro (member) 14 years ago
Wow....
Feel lucky today!
Got four Quantaray 900WA
same manufacturer?
Feel lucky today!
Got four Quantaray 900WA
same manufacturer?
Mr. Muggles
14 years ago
I assume the answer is no, but thought I'd ask--does the LP160 work with variable power via the RadioPopper JRXs?
Chema Cobos
14 years ago
for that price they could at least offer auto thyristor mode or something.
Waaay to expensive.
Waaay to expensive.
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
@Mr.Muggles: It does not work with variable power via the RadioPopper JRXs.
@Chema: Thanks for the feedback. I studied the market very carefully, but perhaps I made a mistake. Probably my biggest fear. Sales so far today would indicate I was correct...but we shall see.
@Primo: Check the post above yours.
@Chema: Thanks for the feedback. I studied the market very carefully, but perhaps I made a mistake. Probably my biggest fear. Sales so far today would indicate I was correct...but we shall see.
@Primo: Check the post above yours.
rebel memory [deleted]
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by rebel memory (member) 14 years ago
Quench pin would be GREAT! Any modders out there?
Anyone else notice the TWO year warranty? YN are you watching?
kenkyee
14 years ago
Moishe: any idea why they didn't design the Nikon Quench pin (or even the Nikon sync connector) in so it'd have power control from the RPJrX? It'd sell a lot more :-P
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
@kenkyee,MrMuggles et al: We are deifintely considering adding a quench pin for a future model. Weren't able to get it in time for this model.
Bippa1
14 years ago
Does anyone know how to change power on the new LP160?
4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bf48JKOl5HQ/S-39g1mVpTI/AAAAAAAABnc/so...
It appears to me that you keep pressing the power button and it cycles through the power settings.
If this is true, to change from 1/8 power to 1/4 power, you will need to press the power button through 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/1 1/2 then 1/4.
You will then have to go through the same thing again if you under estimated and should have went to 1/2 power.
This could alter the way we test, by starting at full power and working down. This will use battery power quicker.
Of course I am assuming this will cycle from left to right.
Maybe a sliding switch would have been better.
4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bf48JKOl5HQ/S-39g1mVpTI/AAAAAAAABnc/so...
It appears to me that you keep pressing the power button and it cycles through the power settings.
If this is true, to change from 1/8 power to 1/4 power, you will need to press the power button through 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/1 1/2 then 1/4.
You will then have to go through the same thing again if you under estimated and should have went to 1/2 power.
This could alter the way we test, by starting at full power and working down. This will use battery power quicker.
Of course I am assuming this will cycle from left to right.
Maybe a sliding switch would have been better.
Witty Phrase
14 years ago
It will probably take less than three seconds to cycle through the power settings. Once you get used to it you'll probably find it isn't enough of a problem to cause you to alter the way you're testing.
Jayashreee
14 years ago
a, Can LP160 be triggered using radio triggers like cactus V4?
b. Is it compatible with canon 400D?
c. What other extra equipments should I buy to make LP160 work with canon 400D? [like triggers, PC sync cable, hot-shoe adapter etc..]
b. Is it compatible with canon 400D?
c. What other extra equipments should I buy to make LP160 work with canon 400D? [like triggers, PC sync cable, hot-shoe adapter etc..]
rebel memory [deleted]
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by rebel memory (member) 14 years ago
www.elinchrom.com/products.php?p_id=217#content
www.elinchrom.com/products.php?p_id=33#content
Delivered with EL - standard sync cable and 3.5 mm jack, to connect to other flash brands.
Moishe-
To avoid constant repetition, you might want to consider putting a FAQ (that could evolve) on the '160's product page...
-D
To avoid constant repetition, you might want to consider putting a FAQ (that could evolve) on the '160's product page...
-D
midwestphotoexchange
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by midwestphotoexchange (member) 14 years ago
@DH: That's a great idea! Swamped with orders here right now. Any volunteers to get it started? (Where is the reference to that reporter from USA today who was crowd-sourcing her research/articles?)
rebel memory [deleted]
Posted 14 years ago. Edited by rebel memory (member) 13 years ago
The several threads on the LP160 don't have enough FAQs? I keep updating my thread so it has several FAQs, but... it is still missing some *answers* to those questions. When you have a break from packing and shipping all those units! Keep those UPS trucks busy!
I'll be happy to accumulate FAQs. Spreadsheet URL below. But I will admit I can be a bit nit-picky. Let me know if it gets too annoying.
spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AlHAzgR2WFHidE9QekJyTXlP...
edit: 37 FAQs 6/2, 36 hours after release. That's 1 per hour, so far.
edit2: Somehow, after the two month wait, and the intense anticipation, I thought there were more LP160 threads than this.
edit3: 50 Qs 6/6. I knew that journalism training would come in handy some day!
Updated Rows: 6/6 34: yes, MPEX ships to South America.
6/8 51, shoens: 1/2 power inconsistent added.
6/16: formated to Q/A in separate columns. MPEX editing Answers allowed.
I'll be happy to accumulate FAQs. Spreadsheet URL below. But I will admit I can be a bit nit-picky. Let me know if it gets too annoying.
spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AlHAzgR2WFHidE9QekJyTXlP...
edit: 37 FAQs 6/2, 36 hours after release. That's 1 per hour, so far.
edit2: Somehow, after the two month wait, and the intense anticipation, I thought there were more LP160 threads than this.
edit3: 50 Qs 6/6. I knew that journalism training would come in handy some day!
Updated Rows: 6/6 34: yes, MPEX ships to South America.
6/8 51, shoens: 1/2 power inconsistent added.
6/16: formated to Q/A in separate columns. MPEX editing Answers allowed.
Alpha-Sphere
14 years ago
My LP160 is in transit right now!!!
Will have it tomorrow night! :D
I will put up a video asap just like I did with the Sigma 8-16mm
Here's my youtube channel
www.youtube.com/user/AlphaSphere
Will have it tomorrow night! :D
I will put up a video asap just like I did with the Sigma 8-16mm
Here's my youtube channel
www.youtube.com/user/AlphaSphere
Alpha-Sphere
14 years ago
:( it's delayed again :( Thought this time it's only supposed to be a few days cause of customs.
midwestphotoexchange
14 years ago
@Alpha: I could not be more disappointed with UPS at the moment. They really dropped the ball on this one. I was very careful to let them know the importance of the shipment and I have NEVER requested that they take more care with this package. It is supposed to now be delivered to CameraTools on Monday. We will see if that happens. I'm really sorry for any inconvenience.
Moishe
Moishe
Photo Engineer
14 years ago
Got mine!
First of all, Congatulations, Moishe; you did a great job and I'm sure you will sell a metric tush-load of these! :)
I haven't had much time with it yet, but here are a few initial observations:
1) The look and build is nice for the price. It feels sturdy and inspires confidence. No, it's not up to SB800/900 level, but it is certainly good enough for me, and I'm picky.
2) This thing is BIG! About the same size as my SB-900.
3) Speaking of my SB-900, I tried the intelligent sync and it works perfectly as advertised. It ignores my preflash and triggers on the main flash; I haven't tested it but for a few dozen exposures, but it has not missed yet.
4) I wasn't expecting this to work, but it also works with CLS with my SB900 in commander mode. Since the description of the intelligent sync suggested that it just ignores the first flash (preflash of a normal TTL flash exposure) I expected the long burst of flashes of a master flash to confuse the LP160. So far, it has not. Even if I set my SB900 to control all three groups (a, b, & c), the LP160 ignored the VERY LONG preflash sequence and only triggered on the main flash. Impressive and useful.
5) There is a flash ready light on both the front and back, which I really like.
Really, there isn't much to complain about, but here are a few minor nitpicks:
1) Power. It has a plenty of it, but a 1/128 setting (like my SB900 has) would be appreciated.
2) The controls. Ok, this is going to sound really nit-picky and it is also a matter of opinion, but it is important to me:
2a) Because the control is all electronic, the power and zoom settings are not recalled when shutting down and powering up, so you need to reset to, say, 1/4 power and 85 beam spread each time you power it up, change batteries, etc. This is a reason that I prefer switches; a sliding switch for power would retain the setting until I change it myself.
2b) The other "problem" with the controls is that they are single buttons for power and zoom. That means that it's one press for each step down in power, but 6 presses for each step up. Even if a sliding switch is not feasible, an up/down momentary switch would make changing power/beam more convenient. On the bright side, as it is the flash is dead-simple to use, and the buttons appear to be nicely debounced, so a single press always results in a single step--so I feel I could confidently reach behind the flash (or inside my Westcott Apollo) and, without looking at the display, press the power button 6 times and know that I got one stop hotter.
Well, that's what I've found so far and I hope this helps everyone. Overall, I am very pleased with what I see so far and feel that I got--perhaps more than--my money's worth. Despite my few minor nitpicks, I think this is a great flash for the money. Congratulations, again, Moishe; you must be very happy (and relieved that the launch date is behind you!)
flash on,
-don
First of all, Congatulations, Moishe; you did a great job and I'm sure you will sell a metric tush-load of these! :)
I haven't had much time with it yet, but here are a few initial observations:
1) The look and build is nice for the price. It feels sturdy and inspires confidence. No, it's not up to SB800/900 level, but it is certainly good enough for me, and I'm picky.
2) This thing is BIG! About the same size as my SB-900.
3) Speaking of my SB-900, I tried the intelligent sync and it works perfectly as advertised. It ignores my preflash and triggers on the main flash; I haven't tested it but for a few dozen exposures, but it has not missed yet.
4) I wasn't expecting this to work, but it also works with CLS with my SB900 in commander mode. Since the description of the intelligent sync suggested that it just ignores the first flash (preflash of a normal TTL flash exposure) I expected the long burst of flashes of a master flash to confuse the LP160. So far, it has not. Even if I set my SB900 to control all three groups (a, b, & c), the LP160 ignored the VERY LONG preflash sequence and only triggered on the main flash. Impressive and useful.
5) There is a flash ready light on both the front and back, which I really like.
Really, there isn't much to complain about, but here are a few minor nitpicks:
1) Power. It has a plenty of it, but a 1/128 setting (like my SB900 has) would be appreciated.
2) The controls. Ok, this is going to sound really nit-picky and it is also a matter of opinion, but it is important to me:
2a) Because the control is all electronic, the power and zoom settings are not recalled when shutting down and powering up, so you need to reset to, say, 1/4 power and 85 beam spread each time you power it up, change batteries, etc. This is a reason that I prefer switches; a sliding switch for power would retain the setting until I change it myself.
2b) The other "problem" with the controls is that they are single buttons for power and zoom. That means that it's one press for each step down in power, but 6 presses for each step up. Even if a sliding switch is not feasible, an up/down momentary switch would make changing power/beam more convenient. On the bright side, as it is the flash is dead-simple to use, and the buttons appear to be nicely debounced, so a single press always results in a single step--so I feel I could confidently reach behind the flash (or inside my Westcott Apollo) and, without looking at the display, press the power button 6 times and know that I got one stop hotter.
Well, that's what I've found so far and I hope this helps everyone. Overall, I am very pleased with what I see so far and feel that I got--perhaps more than--my money's worth. Despite my few minor nitpicks, I think this is a great flash for the money. Congratulations, again, Moishe; you must be very happy (and relieved that the launch date is behind you!)
flash on,
-don
Joey (aka Pepe)
13 years ago
Mine is on its way! Will also post here as soon as I get it, but in the meantime: Petepixx, you can add a resounding "Yes" to FAQ row 34. Moishe definitely ships to South America, so many thanks to him for helping those of us at the bottom of the planet!
Hans Wijnveen
Posted 13 years ago. Edited by Hans Wijnveen (member) 13 years ago
I got my LP160 today, it replaces my LP120 with 1/1 power problem. It works perfectly and I'm quite happy with it! It has a far more solid feel to it and also includes a diffuser (omnibounce-like) and a little stand! I also do like the pre-flash ignore function on the optical slave.
It was certainly worth the waiting, and hey, both MPEX and CameraTools have done what they could to help us. Thanks guys!
It was certainly worth the waiting, and hey, both MPEX and CameraTools have done what they could to help us. Thanks guys!
shoens
13 years ago
I got mine today. In some quick tests, my one complaint is that the flash power is inconsistent. For example at 1/2 power into a reflective satin umbrella, I get about f/5.6 if I pop the flash right after the ready light goes on. If I wait a little bit longer, I get another 1/3 stop (f/6.3). If I wait a really long time, I get f/7.1 (+2/3 stop). Occasionally, I get f/5.0 instead of f/5.6. In comparison, a Canon 580 EX II at 1/2 power delivers a consistent f/7.1.
A second note is that if triggered too quickly (I'm using the miniphone socket), the flash will fire (weakly) before recycled. You might regard this as either a bug or feature. The 580 EX II refuses to fire before it has recycled.
A third note is that the PC connector is not screwlock like the 580 EX II.
Of course the 580 EX II is 2.5 times more expensive. You pays your money, you takes your chances.
I do like how simple the LP 160 is to use. Cycling through the different power and zoom settings by push button is very quick.
A second note is that if triggered too quickly (I'm using the miniphone socket), the flash will fire (weakly) before recycled. You might regard this as either a bug or feature. The 580 EX II refuses to fire before it has recycled.
A third note is that the PC connector is not screwlock like the 580 EX II.
Of course the 580 EX II is 2.5 times more expensive. You pays your money, you takes your chances.
I do like how simple the LP 160 is to use. Cycling through the different power and zoom settings by push button is very quick.
Alpha-Sphere
Posted 13 years ago. Edited by Alpha-Sphere (member) 13 years ago
Made a unboxing vid of the LP160 :)
Check it out over @
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4QM-tpovgg&feature=player_em...
Check it out over @
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4QM-tpovgg&feature=player_em...
rebel memory [deleted]
Posted 13 years ago. Edited by rebel memory (member) 13 years ago
@Alpha-Sphere -- Great Unboxing video! Loved the slave test also.
It went kind of fast, can you confirm swivel @ 180/150 = 330? not 270?
www.mathopenref.com/circlecentral.html
Flashes faceing opposite ways, Nikon flash at lowered level, if a dome meter was set next to the LumoPro 60, faceing the same way-- I'm wondering what kind of flash meter reading of light output is needed to trigger the slave mode as you tested it?
I think the *i* slave mode is designed to ignor the very long iTTL pre-flash, thus *i*.
It went kind of fast, can you confirm swivel @ 180/150 = 330? not 270?
www.mathopenref.com/circlecentral.html
Flashes faceing opposite ways, Nikon flash at lowered level, if a dome meter was set next to the LumoPro 60, faceing the same way-- I'm wondering what kind of flash meter reading of light output is needed to trigger the slave mode as you tested it?
I think the *i* slave mode is designed to ignor the very long iTTL pre-flash, thus *i*.
friendly note [deleted]
13 years ago
looks really cool, I'm gonna have to think quite seriously about convincing myself to by one or two.
Just as an odd question to the world:
If this is being designed with a lot of emphasis on the Strobist style of lighting, what's the point of it being shoe-mount? Yeah, I understand that a lot of photogs get an ego-boost from saying "Oh, I lit the whole thing with hot shoe flashes." But seriously, if we're all just going to put them on light stands anyway, why not take all the same cool electronic parts (including using AA's I suppose) and stick it in a box that looks like a monolight? you'd get a much stronger attachment, as opposed to the normal Strobist rig of light stand - umbrella adapter - little brass stud - cold shoe - flash attached by it's smallest weakest part. And, you could have some kinda speed ring system to slap modifiers on there very easily. Anyway, just want to hear what people would think of such a thing. (particularly since the LP160 seems to be at least as powerful as the AB400).
Just as an odd question to the world:
If this is being designed with a lot of emphasis on the Strobist style of lighting, what's the point of it being shoe-mount? Yeah, I understand that a lot of photogs get an ego-boost from saying "Oh, I lit the whole thing with hot shoe flashes." But seriously, if we're all just going to put them on light stands anyway, why not take all the same cool electronic parts (including using AA's I suppose) and stick it in a box that looks like a monolight? you'd get a much stronger attachment, as opposed to the normal Strobist rig of light stand - umbrella adapter - little brass stud - cold shoe - flash attached by it's smallest weakest part. And, you could have some kinda speed ring system to slap modifiers on there very easily. Anyway, just want to hear what people would think of such a thing. (particularly since the LP160 seems to be at least as powerful as the AB400).
josh.r
13 years ago
Uhm... what makes you think that it's as powerful as an AB400? Other than that I do kind of agree that the hotshoe seems like a waste of money.
rebel memory [deleted]
Posted 13 years ago. Edited by rebel memory (member) 13 years ago
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/tdunningphotog/] When you get them to *standardize* a new size/connection(I'd prefer 5/16 to 1/4 as deep threads make the shaft about toothpick thickness)/location for the flash mount...
What would/could/may be a nice new feature is a consistent *reinforced* area of some sort to wrap a support string/wire/bungee around the flash to support a side bracket like--
www.diyphotography.net/get-your-flash-100-on-axis-with-um...
Oh, please get them all to put the batteries in from the same side, same configuration for connectors, SLA compatibility. ;-) Maybe, since we mostly use 1.2 volt batts, how about more 5 batt flashes?
While I like the *idea* of a more monolight-like flash the more I think of it, the more I think of size/compatibility issues. Like *which?* bracket would you prefer? But getting a bigger light source & reflector (like 120J bare bulb is usual request) also comes to mind.
What would/could/may be a nice new feature is a consistent *reinforced* area of some sort to wrap a support string/wire/bungee around the flash to support a side bracket like--
www.diyphotography.net/get-your-flash-100-on-axis-with-um...
Oh, please get them all to put the batteries in from the same side, same configuration for connectors, SLA compatibility. ;-) Maybe, since we mostly use 1.2 volt batts, how about more 5 batt flashes?
While I like the *idea* of a more monolight-like flash the more I think of it, the more I think of size/compatibility issues. Like *which?* bracket would you prefer? But getting a bigger light source & reflector (like 120J bare bulb is usual request) also comes to mind.
hito.fr
13 years ago
Just received mine today :)
Nothing more to say than "Photo Engineer" have already says.
It's nice, good, work well for now.
But i've got a little sound coming from LP160 :s i'm young enough to ear the little biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip...
Am I the only one ?
I'm just thinking if i will sell my speedlite 430EXII or keep it...
What do you think ? Keep ? Sell ? :/
Nothing more to say than "Photo Engineer" have already says.
It's nice, good, work well for now.
But i've got a little sound coming from LP160 :s i'm young enough to ear the little biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip...
Am I the only one ?
I'm just thinking if i will sell my speedlite 430EXII or keep it...
What do you think ? Keep ? Sell ? :/
Joey (aka Pepe)
13 years ago
Received mine on Friday, but I've been swamped (both at home and at work), so I haven't been able to do more than just pop a few test flashes using the optical slave. So far, so good! (and yes, it hums a bit when it's fully charged).
I ordered two, and both swivel 180° to the right and probably 150° or so to the left, anyone else has this same swivel range?
I've got a question for the flash experts: I tried it using the normal (S) slave mode and the ignore-TTL-preflash (Si) slave mode, but I can't tell the difference. Using my pop-up flash as a trigger, set to -3 ev, both shots appear equally well exposed (ambient was very low, shutter speed was set at 1/100th). Would you normally see a difference at these settings? Or is the Si mode used for slow shutter speeds when using rear curtain sync?
Anyway, a big Thank You to Moishe once again!
I ordered two, and both swivel 180° to the right and probably 150° or so to the left, anyone else has this same swivel range?
I've got a question for the flash experts: I tried it using the normal (S) slave mode and the ignore-TTL-preflash (Si) slave mode, but I can't tell the difference. Using my pop-up flash as a trigger, set to -3 ev, both shots appear equally well exposed (ambient was very low, shutter speed was set at 1/100th). Would you normally see a difference at these settings? Or is the Si mode used for slow shutter speeds when using rear curtain sync?
Anyway, a big Thank You to Moishe once again!
ac12basis
13 years ago
@shoens
Ready lights have a LONG history of being an inaccurate way to tell that the flash is 100% charged. In some older flashes, the ready light would come on as low as 50% charged. So unless you test YOUR flash, you should not shoot as soon as the ready light comes on.
You need to chart the flash output vs charge time to determine the output/charge-time curve, and when it flattens out. But realize that the charge curve will change as the capacitor is "formed." So don't chart this curve until you have 30+ charge/discharge cycles.
Ready lights have a LONG history of being an inaccurate way to tell that the flash is 100% charged. In some older flashes, the ready light would come on as low as 50% charged. So unless you test YOUR flash, you should not shoot as soon as the ready light comes on.
You need to chart the flash output vs charge time to determine the output/charge-time curve, and when it flattens out. But realize that the charge curve will change as the capacitor is "formed." So don't chart this curve until you have 30+ charge/discharge cycles.