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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

Partendo dal fatto che la pellicola a colori ha 3 strati di colori, il BLU, il VERDE e per ultimo il ROSSO, la luce passando per tutti gli strati renderà la foto di tutti i colori. Mentre nel nostro caso faremo impressionare solo lo strato rosso in modo da avere una fotografia in scala di rossi.

pellicole in scala di rossi

Questo è il lato che normalmente viene esposto in una pellicola a colori.

pellicole in scala di rossi

Noi invece esporremo alla luce questo lato.

pellicole in scala di rossi

Intanto tagliamo lo strato di pellicola che servirebbe per avvolgere la pellicola dentro la nostra macchina fotografica.

pellicole in scala di rossi

Poi attacchiamo un pezzo di scotch alla fine della pellicola, lasciando metà dello scotch non incollato alla pellicola...

pellicole in scala di rossi

...per poter attaccare un rullino vuoto con un pezzettino di pellicola che sporge (li trovate gratuitamente in certi laboratori)

pellicole in scala di rossi

poi avvolgete tutta la pellicola del rullino di sinistra dentro al rullino di destra.

ATTENZIONE QUESTA OPERAZIONE DEVE ESSERE FATTA A COMPLETA ASSENZA DI LUCE. Basta mettersi in una camera oscura o sotto una coperta in una stanza buia o dentro un sacco a pelo o... vedete voi... l'importante è che non ci sia luce.

Per far passare tutta la pellicola dal rullino di sinistra al rullino di destra potete aiutarvi con un paio di forbici, come nella foto sopra.

pellicole in scala di rossi

Ora il peggio è passato, potete riaccendere la luce o uscire dal vostro loculo, e tagliare la pellicola lasciando un paio di centimetri dal rullino di sinistra (che ora è vuoto) in modo da poterlo riusare una prossima volta

pellicole in scala di rossi

Ora tagliate la pellicola che sporge dal rullino pieno come nella foto sopra e siete pronti per scattare le foto...

FATELE VEDERE!


Questa tecnica l'ho scoperta percaso montando male un rullino in una Pinhole Camera

first film with the pinhole camera

first film with the pinhole camera
Originally posted at 11:19AM, 5 July 2006 PDT (permalink)
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l_o says:

(sei un dio:)
(già ne vendono di tue statuette luminescenti/luminose
che lampeggiano langciando benedizioni?)
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bastet in the sky with diamonds says:

non hai perso tempo....
ora non ci tocca altro che sperimentare :D
95 months ago (permalink)

MoMaStalker [deleted] says:

ti dovrebbero dare uno spazio in tv per un programma alla mc gyver dove insegni a "creare" con la pellicola! :D
95 months ago (permalink)

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bastet in the sky with diamonds says:

il mc gyver della fotografia!!!!
fiko :D
95 months ago (permalink)

ricardomcom [deleted] says:

¡Gran idea esta!. Gracias por tu invitación al grupo y pronto estaré experimentando para subir algún trabajo al grupo.
95 months ago (permalink)

Mà [deleted] says:

sei genio,mi sa che te l'avevogia detto!
95 months ago (permalink)

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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

MoMaStalker no, il mc gyver della fotografia è sicuramente colui che si è creato la pinhole con i lego e che smanetta con tutte le macchine che gli capitino tra le mani ( Found Photographer) però io già sento la sigla di mc nelle orecchie e mi sembra che mi stiano crescendo i capelli biondi

datemi del filo di ferro e un pezzo di vetro e vi farà una lc-a
altro che moltiplicazione dei pani e dei pesci...


comunque...
qualcuno non è che vuole tradurre questo "how to" in inglese? io non ci so proprio fare
moma, tu te la cavi, no? :D
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.pozzo. says:

grazie per l'invito!
molto molto interessante!

ho una domanda che forse è banale.. ma se si fa la stessa cosa con una pellicola B/n?

apriti un videocast o un podcast!
che sulla fotografia non c'è nulla!

se lo fai dimmelo subito! ;)
95 months ago (permalink)

holga_pics [deleted] says:

Great Idea - but I've no idea how this works as my Italian is poor.

NIce pics though......

And thanks for the invite I'm sure all will become clear in time

hmmm babelfish....
95 months ago (permalink)

holga_pics [deleted] says:

Nope babelfish didn't help :o)

Leaving from the fact that the film to colors has 3 layers of colors, the BLUE, the last GREEN and for the RED one, the light passing for all the layers will render the photo of all the colors. While in our case we will make to only impress the red layer so as to to have one photography in scale of red. This is the side that normally comes exposed in one film to colors. We instead will expose to the light this side. While we cut the film layer that would serve in order to wrap the film within our camera. Then we attack a piece of scotch to the end of the film, leaving glue half of the scotch to the film... ... for being able free of charge to attack a rullino empty with pezzettino of film that sporge (found them in sure laboratories) then you wrap all the film of the rullino of left within to the rullino of right. ATTENTION THIS OPERATION MUST BE MADE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF LIGHT. Enough to put itself in a darkroom or under one covered in a room buia or within a sleeping bag or... you see... the important you are that not there is light. In order to make to pass to all the film from the rullino of left to the rullino of right you can help you with a pair of scissors, like in the photo over. Hour worse is past, you can relight the light or exit from yours loculo, and cut to the film leaving a pair of centimeters from the rullino of left (than hour it is empty) so as to to be able it to riusare one next time Hour cut to the film that sporge from the rullino full as in the photo over and you are ready in order to take the photos... He convene to you to overexpose po' a photo in the release. As an example if you have a rullino from 200 iso he releases it to you like if he were from 100 IT MAKES YOU TO SEE THEM! This technique I have discovered it percaso badly mounting rullino in one a Pinhole Room
95 months ago (permalink)

holga_pics [deleted] says:

Ok I think I've got it - the film is rewound on an empty spool backwards so that the film emulsion is exposed through the cellulose backing, as the film will be loaded into the camera in reverse, rather than directly onto the emulsion. Doing this however loses a stop of light so that if you do this with 200 iso film you will be exposing at 100 iso in real terms.

The pics are redscale!
95 months ago (permalink)

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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

iseeawell io sempre per caso ho fatto questa tecnica anche con una pellicola in bianco e nero, e mi sembrava la stessa cosa però che avesse perso un po' di definizione...

apriti un videocast o un podcast!
cosa sono?
95 months ago (permalink)

MoMaStalker [deleted] says:

how to vuol dire "come" inteso tipo "how to make" = "come fare" ....era questo che volevi sapere?
:D
95 months ago (permalink)

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.pozzo. says:

Sterile it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcasting
i videocast è la stessa cosa! cmq se usi itunes li ci sono molti pod/videocast!

con la pellicola in B/n viene fuori la foto rossa come se fosse a colori?
95 months ago (permalink)

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Rodrigo Perez says:

Grazie
95 months ago (permalink)

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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

MoMaStalker speravo che tu avessi voglia di tradurre tutto il topic dove viene spiegata la tecnica :D
so anch'io che "how to" vuol dire zuppa di fagioli

iseeawell no, con la pellicola in bianco e nero, visto che ha uno strato solo ed è di grigio verrà fuori solo grigio, come se l'avessi scattata dalla parte giusta
95 months ago (permalink)

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solo_off says:

u con la macchina digitale basta metter il dito davanti al flash e piu o meno si ha un effetto simile...
cmq sei un figo ad averlo trovato nel rullino.
yo
95 months ago (permalink)

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bastet in the sky with diamonds says:

ehi!!! ci sono riuscita.... ma le mie risultano più arancioni che rosse... posso postarle in questo gruppo comunque?
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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

certo, se la tecnica e" quella posta pure!
94 months ago (permalink)

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.danimal says:

English translation can be found here:
translate.google.com/translate?u=https://www.flickr.com/gr...|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
93 months ago (permalink)

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7meteor says:

does the a rullino empty film's DX must be chrome film ?
or any film to be rullino empty is OK ?!
we exposure and develop it would be negative film, rigth ?!

sorry, my english is poor,
i hope someone can understand what I wanna ask.
thank you !
93 months ago (permalink)

Mark-B [deleted] says:

hello 7meteor, yes you can also use color negative film for redscale.

and yes, if you use negative film, it will be a negative when you develop it. chrome film will be positive after you develop it.

if your camera reads the DX code on the film cartridge, you can set the + or - exposure compensation to: +1.

or, just tape over the DX code. most cameras will set the film speed to 100 iso if you tape over the DX code.
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P.E. [deleted] says:

are there any difference in colors from slide and negatives??
93 months ago (permalink)

Mark-B [deleted] says:

good question, P.E. i've never tried it with slide film. anybody?


i learned one thing about color negative, and that is, you have to expose it 2 stops more: if it's 400 iso, then set it to 100 iso.
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bricolage.108 says:

I only push one stop (with negatives), and that seems to be enough, but next time will try it like you said.

I've done it with some slide film, again inspired by sterile, and the result is much more yellow cast. And with slide looks like you really have to push two stops since the cross processing usualy also needs more contrast.
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Mark-B [deleted] says:

good advice, bricolage.108, with slide film (+2 stops), as slide film is less forgiving with exposure. thank you ^-^

mark-b
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konstriktion says:

A comment on the technique. I think it's easier not to use scissors to respool the film, but to put the take up canister into the camera and apply the camera's rewind mechanism (without closing the camera lid of course).

Results.
91 months ago (permalink)

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olertesinnariz says:

bellissimo effetto! mi piace molto!
Devo provare subito con la mia holga!
91 months ago (permalink)

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gab- says:

mi piace! mamma mia che foto! ma hai usato una scrausissima konica negativa da pochi euro?

avete altri esperimenti da consigliarmi tipo questo?
90 months ago (permalink)

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Edward Olive Actor Photographer Fotografo Madrid says:

why do you do all this loading film into other film. why not just load it back to front in a cheap camera that allows it or in a mf camera.

i have just put one in my holga back to front and it seems to work
89 months ago (permalink)

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.danimal says:

Just to make sure I'm getting this right.

+1 Stop for C41
+2 Stops for E6, Processed in C41 (xpro)

How about E6 processed as E6? +1 Stop?

Thanks.
89 months ago (permalink)

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Yashica Girl says:

I'm assuming you just get it developed as normal? i.e. 400iso, exposed at 200iso but developed at 400iso??
89 months ago (permalink)

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gilbertosuzuki says:

tem que expor um ISO abaixo?
87 months ago (permalink)

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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

queen_of_scum yes, the film need more light than normal

gilbertosuzuki si
84 months ago (permalink)

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sterile is a group administrator sterile says:

edwardolive + sorry no more smut I made like this because in my reflex I can't put the roll back to front

.danimal I don't know. I never overexposed my redscale film but all my negatives are too dark and then I think it's better to overexposed 1 stop
I don't know how to do with a xpro redscale film.
this one

is xpro redscale without overexposed, but I've use photoshop to make it more brighter
84 months ago (permalink)

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.danimal says:

I've shot 1 roll of redscale slide and xpro'd it. The negatives came back very thin, and the lab had the manually scan each frame of the film to make me an index sheet. I overexposed by +1 stop.

Daisys
I had to adjust the levels on this one as it was quite dark.

Next time I'll do +2 stops and see what happens, will have to be a very sunny day as It will be 25 iso.
84 months ago (permalink)

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Robin Schroder says:

I'm really interested to try this, but I'm assuming that the roll you wind on to should be the same ISO as the film you're loading in.

I have a roll of Elite Chrome 400 and will shoot at 100 as per the advice above (since I'll be cross processing), but I guess should get hold of an ISO 400 roll to wind on to whilst reversing the film?

Not knowing an awful lot about processing, what would happen if I wound the film on to a 200 or 100 roll and had the 400 redscale (that I'd shot at 100) developed on that - would that produce lighter or darker results, do you think? I guess that kind-of ventures in to the pushing / pulling whole thing that I've never really had done to any of my rolls so far.
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.danimal says:

I've not had any problems putting 400 iso into a 100 iso canister.

If your camera picks up the iso setting from the film, called DX or something then you will have to override this. If you have a camera where you can set the iso, set it to what film you have rolled into the canister.

The machine reads the iso of the film from the negative strip and will process at that iso.

I think.

Don't forget to write on the canister what iso film you have put in it as I often forget and shoot at the wrong film speed.
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ro_buk [I'm not there] says:

Un consiglio.
Ho seguito le istruzioni alla lettera ma le mie foto non sono uscite con quella predominante rossa tipica di questa tecnica. Ho usato una pellicola Kodak 100 e ho fotografato con una Olympus.Ho notato che le foto scattate con tempi più lunghi sono più rosse.Quelle scattate con tempi più brevi sembrano quasi in B/N.Qualche consiglio?
83 months ago (permalink)

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Full Metal Photographer says:

Well, I figured it out from the pictures, but it was a little difficult. For anyone else, English-language instructions (with pictures) on how to make redscale film can be found here.
82 months ago (permalink)

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TMMY PHTOG says:

Full Metals English Version, Redcaling Technique
78 months ago (permalink)

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.eburn says:

can you take films exposed like this to a regular one-hour photo lab?
77 months ago (permalink)

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akki14 says:

Should be able to. They might get confused when they get the prints and they're all weird coloured and their software might try to correct it to make it look "normal" but chemically speaking there's nothing wrong with the film. It'll be the wrong way up but they dip the whole film, not just one side, into the chemicals so it'll be processed the same way.
77 months ago (permalink)

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Rabbit_Photo's_Lousy_Photography says:

C-41 process is the same for all colour films. No problem in the lab developing the film. But could be a problem with the DX coding in the camera if you don't override it...
75 months ago (permalink)

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✩krissie✩ says:

wow fantastique! ma allora sei italiano.. e io che ho dato sfogo al mio english4you!!! grazie ora provo il RED e ti faccio sapere ;} sono già gasatissima....,. ❝❞
74 months ago (permalink)

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kapa☆ says:

Non ne sapevo niente. Nuovi orizzonti...
Ma che storia!
Grazie.
73 months ago (permalink)

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jophisnutter says:

well the italian was gobbledegook to me but i got the jist of it cheers was VERY helpful :)
73 months ago (permalink)

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bar_biturico says:

scusate per la riesumazione del vecchio post, cercavo info sul web proprio di questa tecnica ma non ci sono più le immagini :(
sterile le puoi ripristinare? grassie
55 months ago (permalink)

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Scrittidiluce says:

Scusate... magari è già stato chiesto: ma se scatto in red scale un rullino diapositive (opportunamente modificato come descritto da Sterile, poi lo faccio sviluppare in cross processing cosa ottengo? la somma dei 2 effetti o cos'altro? Grazie!! :)
4 months ago (permalink)

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kapa☆ says:

www.flickr.com/search/?q=slide%20redscales%20cross
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Scrittidiluce says:

Thanks!! ;)
4 months ago (permalink)

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