2008 PS Ideas

LollyKnit PRO 6:49pm, 8 September 2007
Here are some of the ideas for the next round of Project Spectrum... with a probable start dates of January 2008. If you have other ideas, let me know!

- Complemetary Color Scheme - based on the color wheel, the colors that are opposite of each other. e.g. orange and blue, red and green, etc.

- Elements - based on the natural elements of earth, wind, water, and fire, and the colors that each of these elements are associated with. (This is the idea that I was percolating over for a long time, but did not share because I couldn't quite figure out where to put purple - water? or air?)

- Analogous Colors: much like PS1, with color families - pink/red, orange/yellow, etc.

Throw in your two cents and let me know what you think!
savannahchik PRO 8 years ago
i love the elements idea because not only is it a different way to group the colors from PS1 and PS2, but there's more purpose to the colors.

norah gaughan wrote in her book Knitting Nature that she found her creativity when being "limited" to a single shape for each chapter. i can see that happening here too with the elements as our limiters.

i envision abstract representations of each of the elements, or more exact depictions of them in all media. i'm already thinking about branching out to crafts other than knitting -- quilting or crewel embroidery for example.
spunkyd22 8 years ago
I really liked the layout this year in the sense that it was very easy to find blues, greys and whites in the winter.....greens, yellows and pinks in the spring.....and oranges, purples and browns in the late summer and early fall. I think I had the most trouble with the reds, blacks and metallics. Three colors were nice, so you could relate to at least one of them. This was my first time participating. Next time I will try to plan my knitting better to coordinate. I focused more on matching my photograpgy. I really love looking back at both my blog and my Flickr photos and seeing how they match the color gradients of Project Spectrum. I very much enjoyed having something to work towards in terms of looking for certain colors when I am out with my camera! Great idea, Lolly!
princessdeia PRO 8 years ago
I love both ideas - but I thinking I am warming more towards the Elements one.

I would put purple in air :)
tapmouse2 8 years ago
I like the Elements idea, too. I'd put purple in air, though I could see it in water, too.. so much overlap!
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
I am so happy that you like that Elements idea! that is one I have been sitting on for awhile trying to figure it out...

My thoughts so far:

- EARTH: brown, yellow
- AIR: gray, white,
- WATER: blue, green, purple
- FIRE: red, orange, black

Tapmouse2: I do like your idea of purple in AIR too... it would "punch" up that group a little with a different color...

The other color that I was unsure about is pink... I thought of the pinkish orange of clay soil, and thought that it may go in EARTH, or it could be tagged on with red for FIRE. AIR only has two... should black be included in AIR? (like black clouds?)
ames. 8 years ago
Traditionally, the elemental color associations were as follows:

Earth: green and brown

Air: yellow and white

Fire: red and orange

Water: blue

of course that doesn't give all of the colors, but gives a good starting place. i think purple would fit with water. since pink is a less intense form of red, it would seem to fit with fire. =]
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
Metro: I didn't know that there were traditional colors - thanks for pointing them out!

I can see that some other colors (like gray, black, purple, and pink) can be added on. Purple is a good match for water, and I was thinking the same thing with pink. Black could be in all four! would gray just be lumped with black? Gray's natural place (to me) seems to be AIR, but I am open to anything.

Thanks again! :)
ames. 8 years ago
no problem! =] i went looking for the traditional associations to see if they could help answer some of the outlying color questions. i think grey fits with air too, and black does seem like it could fit with everything.

i've always observed ps from the sidelines before, mostly because i didn't hear about it until the first one was almost over and i didn't quite understand the concept at the time. it will be fun to participate this time! =]
courtneystansbury PRO 8 years ago
I love the idea of using the elements as a jumping off point. What if there were colors that "crossed over", like grey could fit into air (clouds) or into earth (rocks) and people were allowed to assign a place for it, but then they could only use it in that place. So if i wanted to use grey in air, i wouldn't then be able to use it in earth....know what I mean? It may complicate things, but it's a fun idea.
I love that you are thinking this far ahead Lolly!!
crochet_chick 8 years ago
If we want to do metallics again, Earth would be a great spot for it, I think.

Love the idea of pink in Fire, probably 'cause we had pink in our STR sock club Firebird yarn.
just maryse 8 years ago
those 4 elements are also the 4 elements in the zodiac. the first sign in the year is aries -- which is a fire sign.

the next sign is taurus -- which is an earth sign

the next sign is gemini -- which is an air sign

and finally there's cancer -- the water sign.

you could follow that order
just maryse 8 years ago
by the way, i like the elements idea.
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
Oooh, thanks for the response! I was happy to come back from lunch and see the replies ;)

Courtney: I think it is an intriguing idea to have colors that cross over into each category - and it seems like black and gray could do this pretty easily.

Maryse: SO cool! so, it is like the order is already made up for us! I like this a lot! I think it is easier, however, to follow a month structure (we couldn't really change the colors of the month on the 22nd of the month, could we?) - but we could use the zodiac as a guide for order.
just maryse 8 years ago
i'm with you there. glad you like the idea. also, i think a lot of your particpants might not like the idea of switching off every month, but on the other hand, if we did, you could revisit the colors again in 3 months time.

i was just thinking of using the order of the zodiac so that you wouldn't have to decide. and it would also mix it up a little and force us to not necessarily follow colors seasonally. does that make sense?
shellbean 8 years ago
I love the idea of elements and did start to write a list of my thoughts down. I had

Fire - Red, orange, yellow, pink, gold and black
Earth - Brown, orange, green, gold
Air - While, silver, grey, bue
Water - Blue, green, purple, silver

I love the idea for the order!
just maryse 8 years ago
shellbean -- i like how you have some colors overlapping.
cold bright day 8 years ago
I agree, the elements idea is great, and although I hadn't thought of overlapping, why not, really? Blue clearly fits two places, as does orange.
bluelacefiesta 8 years ago
I really like the Elements idea! And I'd certainly be fine with overlap in colors--I played with several different colors throughout PS 2, but usually not during the assigned months!

I think the idea of the Elements could also be incorporated in terms of different materials and techniques. For instance, those interested could work with clay or garden when we're doing Earth, and dye yarn or paint when we're doing Water. I can't really think of anything for Air and Fire, though!
ames. 8 years ago
candle-making and...kites? ;]
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
Bluelacefiesta: YES! this is exactly what I have wanted from the beginning of PS - but people (myself included) really latched on to the knits. This is a GREAT idea. A wonderful holistic approach. Thank you so much for mentioning it.

Air could be windchimes!
Pheelya 8 years ago
I really like the elements idea and I *heart* Monster Yarn's connection to the Zodiac signs! I think a lot of colors do overlap in the different catagories. I have to admit though, I don't really think pink goes in fire. Yes, it's a shade of red and all, but fire is all about intensity and I've never seen pink in flames. I will add though, that if fire is hot enough, you will see blue in the flames. I think white can be added to water as well. When I think of water, oceans come to mind first and when waves crash along the shores there's that white foam :) I also like the idea of metalics in Earth.

Just my 2 cents worth :)
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
I think you are right, Pheelya - pink is hard to fit in, and I can see what you mean about blue and white... it may come down to a vote...

Another idea about Maryse's suggestion to follow the zodiac. The signs correspond to the zodiac symbols for the following dates:

March 21 - April 19 Aries FIRE
April 20 - May 20 Taurus EARTH
May 21 - June 20 Gemini AIR
June 21 - July 22 Cancer WATER

So, this means waiting until March to start the next round of PS. I know several of you mentioned that you wanted to start fresh in January. Also, several of you mentioned that you liked the 2-month span. This arrangement might not allow that...

crochet_chick 8 years ago
I was looking up the zodiac on some site on the web and if we start with Aquarius in Jan, we've got:

Jan - Aquarius - Air
Feb - Pisces - Water
Mar - Aries - Fire
April - Taurus - Earth

It could work.
Pheelya 8 years ago
Here's something I found...

Triplicities by season
In ancient astrology, triplicities were more of a seasonal nature, so a season was given the qualities of an element, which means the signs associated with that season would be allocated to that element. The seasonal elements of ancient astrology are as follows:

Spring - Air - Aries, Taurus, Gemini
Summer - Fire - Cancer, Leo, Virgo
Autumn - Earth - Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius
Winter - Water - Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces

These associations are not given any great importance in modern astrology, although they are prominent in modern Western neopaganism, druidism and wicca
LollyKnit PRO Posted 8 years ago. Edited by LollyKnit (admin) 8 years ago
This is tricky - Both of these idea are so good!
I love the seasonality of Pheelya's, but I don't think I personally have the wherewithal to do PS all year round... and that structure almost has to be that way.

However, 4 months also seems too short... and one month for each color grouping wouldn't be enough to truly get into each color.

Let's explore this a little more.
knitting iris PRO Posted 8 years ago. Edited by knitting iris (member) 8 years ago
Gosh, so many ideas!
I like metroBabylon's traditional elements, personally. At first I didn't get the yellow and white for Air, but it could certainly be associated with light and shadow, more so in photography than knitting or the likes, though.
The complementary colors idea is a good one, too, but maybe just because I'm partial to that Blue/Orange combo!
TartanHearts Posted 8 years ago. Edited by TartanHearts (member) 8 years ago
My two cents on the "elements" color scheme: If you chose this, I don't think Project Spectrum would be the best name for it anymore. The spectrum wouldn't really be relevant at all, except that some of the colors are part of it.
mlweaving 8 years ago
This goes way back in the discussion - re where to put purple.
I see purple as an earth color.
Purple mountain majesties...fields of heather....
and I see pink in air, ie sunrise/sunsets.
Susinok PRO 8 years ago
I love the elements idea and the expanded color range. You can use the element in quesiton and color to represent the entire theme.

One thing I would do is mix it up a bit. Earth and Fire are warm color ranges for the most part.

Air and Water are cool color ranges for the most part.

Mix them up from one period to the next.

Earth (warms)
Water (cools)
Fire (warms)
Air (cools)

Otherwise you'll be workign for four months each on essentially one color range.

And far as pink goes, it totally belongs in Air. Sunsets, ya know.
magnusmog Posted 8 years ago. Edited by magnusmog (member) 8 years ago
I'm absolutely leaning towards the elemental idea - it will be interesting to see how it works out with contributions from people in both urban and rural areas. Like the link between craft and colour and element. How about raku pottery and charcoal drawing for the fire section ?
fridaknits PRO 8 years ago
I'm head over heels in love with the elements idea! Great idea!
emiℓy 8 years ago
What if we did a complementary color scheme to start out the year and get people back in the groove of posting, and then moved on to the elements when the time came? Personally I really like the analagous and complementary color ideas.
marleah 8 years ago
The element idea is so great - and I love that we can draw inspiration from the elements to make things with different textures, or with different materials.

I really slacked during this year's PS ... applying to and starting grad school really did a number on me. Maybe 2008 will be better!
sheree's alchemy 8 years ago
I like all the ideas, especially the elements!!!! I have been thinking about that lots in my own work, so would be fun to do something with project spectrum this way.

Just one question about the new start up in January. Will we have to join a new group, or will it still be hosted here? I just want to mark my calendar so I can start at the beginning. :)

geetargeek PRO 8 years ago
Hi everyone! Just curious as to when the new project spectrum colors will be posted. It's supposed to start next month and I want to start searching from projects and yarn! :)
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
I have to say that I am curious too - do you all still want to start in January? I need to get my PS spirit if that is the case!!

Sheree: this will be where PS news is posted - you are in the right place!
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
I have to admit that the date of January 1st is just TOO soon for me. I did not plan ahead like I should have... so, with that in mind, I propose this idea:

- FEBRUARY / MARCH - FIRE - orange,
red, pink
- APRIL / MAY - EARTH - green, brown,
- JUNE / JULY - AIR - gray, white,
black, purple

This idea is still forming. I want to make a real point that this is not just a knitalong. It would be a way to really explore the colors, as well as the textures, involved with each of these elements.

There are a few more ideas in the Ravelry group. I specifically like the ideas about incorporating other arts and activities like working with clay (for Fire), gardening (for Earth), etc. Also, things like photography and knitting can still be worked into all of the month spans as well - waves or water motifs for Water. Air is a more difficult one to completely work out - but it is a work in progress. What about windchimes? :) (We could have a group project where people contribute their designs!)

Let me know what you think!
I'm another newbe here but I've read through the thread and I love what you are proposing. I also think opening it up to knitting and other artistic visions is a great idea. I'm looing forward to participating! Thanks.
Susinok PRO 8 years ago
This looks like a great idea. February works and some of us could always get a head start.. :)

Thanks for mixing up the color ranges, too. I'm not a cool color person and I'd totally lose track if I had half a year of blue. I'll have to figure out ahead of time what to do to get me through air and water.

Another place for inspiration is Knitting from Nature. There are a lot of element inspired patterns in there. Combine that and the color ranges and it would make for some fascinating projects.

Funny thing is that as well as the color, the words of the elements inspire me as well. There are so many ways to take this theme.
LollyKnit PRO 8 years ago
I have thought the same thing about Norah Gaughan's book - it is quite inspirational. I am so happy that you are on board!
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