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What fuji film can be used in place of Polaroid 600 Instant film?

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Artemis Arthur says:

What fuji film can be used in place of Polaroid 600 Instant film?

Any instant B&W?

Any responses are greatly appreciated. :)

-Sade
3:57PM, 7 March 2008 PDT (permalink)

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Shelly Tee is a group moderator Shelly Tee says:

none. fuji's only integral film, instax, works only in their cameras.
113 months ago (permalink)

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artpunk says:

Sad, but true.
113 months ago (permalink)

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louisclub says:

nono
113 months ago (permalink)

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mattneighbour says:

Fuji do have some instant B&W pack film though.
113 months ago (permalink)

Dave Bones [deleted] says:

There is a serious possibility that Fuji will begin manufacturing further polaroid films in 2009/2010, I heard this from someone within Polaroid. Obviously nothing is certain but apparently Fuji are extremely interested in pursuing this.

Seeing as Fuji seem to be standing by their other film ranges when others like Kodak are phasing out even more film, I am hopeful that Fuji will capitalize on Polroid's failings and push the market even further. No disrespect to Polaroid but they have let us Polaroid users down and it's now time for someone else to take over and support their new geeky customer base :)
113 months ago (permalink)

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Kate Pulley says:

weird, Fuji keeps saying they don't plan to take over.
I hope that's true though...
113 months ago (permalink)

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Shelly Tee is a group moderator Shelly Tee says:

but most of us who've written to fujifilm have gotten the same response: they're going to stick with the instant films they're already making (the packfilms and--for foreign markets--instax). that said, i do hope they'll change their mind.

(at least ilford has shown some interest.)
113 months ago (permalink)

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maireadaseacht says:

Of course there's always the chance Fuji don't intend to show their hand this early in the game....nothing wrong with hope! I expect we'll be the last to know....
113 months ago (permalink)

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Artemis Arthur says:

Any links to fuji instant cameras??
113 months ago (permalink)

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letchhausen says:

I certainly hope someone can pick this up. I just got the last two packs of T990 at my local camera store which was all the Spectra film they had. Another store was already sold out and I got the last two packs of Spectra Image from my local drug store. On the walk to the various stores I shot off an entire pack of the T990 and felt decadent doing so.
Please Fuji, Please!

Time to send them another email.....

The other thing that would be to Fuji's advantage would be the massive sales from the all the news stories and interest that's been generated. I would say that a lot of people that didn't even think of Polaroid are trying it now and could be future consumers.
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bizcarlito says:

asia is such a huge marketplace for polaroid
especially sx-70 cameras
i live in japan and i know it for sure
here we have magazines which elsewhere could be labelled as a niche publication, instead every month comes out a new magazine featuring reports, tries and test between 40 years old cameras, any type.
fujifilm is even planning to release later this year a new folding 120 film camera (prototype is already been featured in big camera shows)
all polaroid people out there, be patient
of course now fuji is saying they will not replace polaroid
polaroid has still other digital cameras in production, tv sets and dvd players, it will take time before they arrange something with polaroid
there are so many technical and legal stuff to solve
polaroid will not die, fuji will definitely produce a film compatible for sx-70 and 600 film models
instead of polaroid, fuji has invested in quality digital cameras, they are successful, and therefore they reuse the money to develop better film (35mm and 120mm) and instant film. honestly i prefer to wait for a great pola film produced by fuji than having immediately a crappy polaroid film still produced by polaroid (since sx-70 film was replaced by 600 film quality has been going down terribly) or some minor businesses
just be patient
i'm so tired to read everywhere about save polaroid and writing letters and so on
polaroid simply won't die
when an object reaches such a international status, as a design object and a historical camera noone is interested in letting it die
113 months ago (permalink)

Dave Bones [deleted] says:

Those who have recently taken up Polaroid photography should contact Fuji and voice their love for their new hobby as what is becoming clear to film producers is that Polaroid still has a huge and growing cult following. If Fuji hear from a lot of people about how they have only begun to get into instant photography this will further entice them to expand their product base.

Fuji are extremely proud that they are so passionate about producing film and have a saying that goes along the lines of "film is still best." I really do believe that if we, the Polaroid users, voice our frustrations and love of the medium to Fuji, that things could move forward.

It is highly unlikely that Polaroid will recommence their production of film which is why I think people should be knocking on Fuji's door and voicing their love for the world of Polaroid photography.

Come on people send an email, in fact get your mum, brother and granny to send one - now is the time to act!
113 months ago (permalink)

Dave Bones [deleted] says:

Was typing my post as you were typing yours biz and agree with your sentiment that it is unlikely to be the case that Polaroid will "die." Look how many group members here alone are happy to spend money on Polaroids - where there is money being spent, there is business interest. Always.
113 months ago (permalink)

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tubes. says:

bizcarlito:

"just be patient i'm so tired to read everywhere about save polaroid and writing letters and so on polaroid simply won't die when an object reaches such a international status, as a design object and a historical camera noone is interested in letting it die"


Really? Polaroid, the company that invented it, is just fine with letting it die, or did you not get the memo?

So, basically, you're saying do nothing? Just wait around and someone will start making the film with no outcry from the users who use the film? Don't write any letters or try to show potential companies that you care? That will work? You think that's how businesses gauge interest in products? That makes sense.

I'm sorry, I'm always really civil on flickr but that is the dumbest, laziest, most ignorant attitude concerning this situation that I've ever heard.

I'm so sorry that you're "tired to read about save polaroid and writing letters". That must be really difficult for you, being patient and doing nothing and having to listen to others take action when you are hard at work waiting around. That must be really difficult for you.

I sincerely hope Fuji does pick up the Polaroid formats. But if it doesn't, at least the people who voiced their interest will know that we tried.
113 months ago (permalink)

the_Craigen [deleted] says:

Amen Tubes.
113 months ago (permalink)

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maireadaseacht says:

Well, I agree with both bizcarlito and with you, Tubes, except that I realise that bizcarlito is expressing confidence and a reason for being hopeful in his/her own way, and I think you took him/her up too quickly, to be frank. We each have our own way of dealing with problems and you are the pro-active type, long life to you. There are others who believe in the power of positive thinking.
Over the last few days, I feel that bizcarlito is right, and that we will get our SX-70 compatible and 600 film, as well, hopefully, as Spectra/Image film though I'm not so sure about that. I also agree with bizcarlito that these things take time. Meanwhile, I will continue using and enjoying my Fujifilm Instax camera, and stroll into my local shop to buy film for several Euros cheaper than I could get Polaroid 600 or Image film before, and I know that when I want more, it will be there. Looking back, the situation over here re. Polaroid has been ridiculous for the last few years, when you could never be sure you would be able to buy it and when you could it was 46 Euros for a double-pack of Image film, 43.99 for a double-pack of 600 in some shops. The cheapest was just 18 Euros for a ten-pack in a shop that has been out of stock for some time. Fujifilm Instax wide-format is 12.99 Euros there at the moment for a ten-pack.
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tubes. says:

maireadaseacht - fair enough. But I am being positive, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with taking any action in the first place. I think positive thinking is great but it's only effective in motivating ones own actions and maybe those directly around them. It doesn't transfer "telepathically" to the companies who hold the cards in this situation.

And I agree, these things do take time. Just because Fuji says no now, doesn't mean they won't change their mind. But why not give them a little extra push to do so?

Well, we've kind of gotten off track I guess, sorry for crashing your thread blackboxxphoto!
113 months ago (permalink)

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bizcarlito says:

Tubes
I'm sorry you but didn't understand anything
but i do understand your feelings since it's hard dealing with the closing of the polaroid factories

so to answer your questions and insults I reply you this:

1) i'm not lazy like you stated, I say instead of writing polaroid which is not interested at all in keeping pola alive (see point 2) let's all write fuji
it makes more sense. and yes, i am very tired of people going crazy over this topic, instead of debating, crying, the best answer is keep on shooting as much as we can and create the most beautiful polaroids as a tribute. to leave something behind, pictures that will be timeless. as i said in an interview some time ago, polaroids is the purest form of photography, the most honest one, because there is not trick, no push or pull. what you see is what you get. Polaroid's vision is born within.

2) and you know polaroid DID kill itself
first because the actual polaroid is not the original one, the company has been sold few years back and the quality of the film went down the drain because the new owners just simply took advantage of the iconic status of the logo and historical appeal to market low budget digital products, like plasma tv sets, printers, crappy digicam. the new owners NEVER invested any money in research and in developing the instant film. unfortunately
so, to blame is the new owner, but also to blame are all those polaroid users that at the beginning of the 90's stopped using polaroids because it wasn't "cool" anymore. polaroids are seen as a fashion object nowadays and as any other fashion object, trends go in circle, sometimes they die and after a while they come back. these last few years there has been a huge comebak to lo-fi photography (see terry richardson or the lomography hype) and therefore also polaroid photography.

3) also fuji doens't need no push, they knew polaroid was in trouble long before we knew and they were scheming their entry in the polaroid area since then. they know is a great opportunity, and i repeat especially in the asian countries

ps. don't get mad at me, i'm not the cause of the end of this era
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maireadaseacht says:

bizcarlito, that no. 3) is very interesting, it could be that you are spot on! If you think about it, it was a significant business move that Fujifilm started to make their integral Instax products only ten years ago. If so, it could be looking good - since despite Fuji writing in response to various e-mails that they will not be making Polaroid, behind the scenes some on this group have reported that they are negotiating to do so. And that makes sense, that we wouldn't know what they know about their own business...
113 months ago (permalink)

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tubes. says:

bizcarlito,

1. I think we're mostly on the same page here actually. That's part of what www.savepolaroid.com and the companion flickr group is doing - collecting pictures and stories as a tribute to the medium, it also just serves the double duty of making a statement that the medium is alive and well. If companies don't need that from us to make decisions, so be it.

2. Absolutely. Polaroid did not adapt enough and went bankrupt. Then Tom Petters came in and bought it cheap and is using the name and logo to sell cheap crap that they don't even make. I know all this. Living in Asia, you may not know that here, Polaroid is synonymous with instant film with the general public. If you say instant film, nobody knows what you are talking about but if you say Polaroid, everybody thinks of instant film. Only professionals know Fuji makes some as well. That's why the site and group are called "Save Polaroid", not because we want to save the company itself, but the film. It's not exactly correct, but it's far more effective.

3. This is where I get confused. In point 1, you say we should all write to Fuji but in point 3 you say Fuji doesn't need a push from us. Why would we write them then, if it's has no effect? Regardless, we have pre-written postcards on our site in our action pack to make writing to Fuji, Ilford (and even Polaroid) easy.

If I insulted you, I apologize, but keep in mind, you basically told all the people who have joined up with the Save Polaroid movement that you're tired of it and that writing letters isn't going to do anything. These are people that believe it will and it's never a good idea to crush positive action - no matter how futile it may seem.

Check out the group and site and I think you'll see we have more in common than not. We both want instant film to live on.
113 months ago (permalink)

.norman fell. [deleted] says:

tubes wins.
113 months ago (permalink)

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maireadaseacht says:

Well, .norman, as Tubes more or less said, we're all in this together, we're all either winners :) or losers :(
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bizcarlito says:

Of course we all lost in this Tubes and we all are in the same "shit"
I agree
I'm angry too
but rants don't bring us anywhere! Thats my point :-)
113 months ago (permalink)

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Sława says:

bizcarlito! Any news about fuji planning making the replacement of a pola 600 since your last post?
104 months ago (permalink)

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.taf says:

@ Sława: no.
104 months ago (permalink)

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bambam4236 says:

I think this has been covered in other discussions in the group but apparently the fuji 600 style film exposes through the negative which is the opposite to the way polaroid 600 works.
So I hear (but don't quote me) that it would be a big job for fuji to take over 600 as its not just a matter of resizing their current product but they would need to change the way it works completely.
104 months ago (permalink)

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///Brian Henry says:

I think the hardest thing would be the battery. as polaroid cameras run off the battery in the film, instax cameras have batteries, the film doesn't.

I've put instax in an empty 600 cartridge and it worked, sort of...
104 months ago (permalink)

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queermountainman says:

Exposing through the front is called "Aspirin"; through the rear (uh) is called "Excedrin". Polaroid patented both systems, which is one of the reasons Kodak lost the lawsuit.

It would, of course, cost Fuji a substantial sum to produce Aspirin products. But it would hardly require a complete retooling.

vaporiss might be right about the battery. It caused Polaroid a lot of grief, because Ray-O-Vac couldn't produce a reliable battery with a reasonable shelf life. (I had one fail on me when I was working at Goldstone.) Polaroid eventually took over manufacture of the battery. Unless Fuji could get its hands on Polaroid's machinery, or find someone willing to manufacture the battery (Matsushita, Toshiba), it's not going to be making 600 materials any time soon, even if it wanted to.
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