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Emailing TFP Work

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Placebo #4 says:

I want to know what size images folks here email to their models. I realize that a CD is best but if you are just sending out a few shots that they can use in promo work and maybe a small print what size do you use? What resolution? Thank youz.
~Ben
11:42AM, 27 October 2010 PDT (permalink)

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OregonVelo is a group administrator OregonVelo says:

720 x 480. That was the upper limit for Facebook. They have changed that limit now, but I find that it still works well for viewing and ensuring that you don't shut down someones mailbox.
93 months ago (permalink)

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Placebo #4 says:

What resolution would you send it at? 75?
93 months ago (permalink)

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metakephoto is a group administrator metakephoto says:

This is a great question..So hopefully we get alot of responses here...Cause even myself, i'd like to know what everyone else is doing.

For e-mailing I use www.yousendit.com, which you can send up to 100MB free.

@Shane: So you only give models 720x480 for TFP? And then if models want prints, how do you go about doing that?
93 months ago (permalink)

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LukeOlsen is a group administrator LukeOlsen says:

I give web sized and sharpened images (1200 pixels tall or wide) at 72dpi with the option to contact me for print sizes. I usually make those 8x12 or 8x10 @ 240 dpi and sharpen for matte.

-Luke

p.s. Certain models have come to expect print sizes from me and for those I just send print sizes.

And I second yousendit. Jeff told me about it and I use it for anything over 7 MB.
93 months ago (permalink)

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ShutterCraze (NUEL) is a group administrator ShutterCraze (NUEL) says:

I'm sure we are going to here all sorts of answers here with really no right or wrong answer, but I will share what I do and the reasons for it.

I have two types of files available for distribution, the web version and the print version. I am for best quality so I give them what I consider best quality file for the purpose of web or print. I'm sure someone here will think I'm crazy and I go over board, but I will provide quality file to head off any problems. People won't complain about a good file to send to print or web, but people will complain if they run into problems with the print or web quality.

Web version (usually between 150Kbytes-500Kbytes):
JPEG, 1024x1024pixels, 72 DPI, SRGB colorspace, Black Point Compensation ON, Gamma Adjust=1, my watermark lower left corner.

Print version (usually between 5Mbytes-50Mbytes):
TIFF 50% version of original, 300 DPI, Adobe RGB colorspace, Black Point Compensation OFF, Gamma Adjust=0, my watermark lower left corner.

I use Aperture for the exporting of the image to my desktop. I then launch Safari and navigate to my FTP server (MobileMe). In my public shared space on the FTP server I upload the image. After the upload is complete I get a window asking me if I would like to share this image. I type the model's email address and it sends an email with a link to the model for the download. I can put passwords and download file expiration date on the image. Model's always reply to the same email with the link to say thanks and that they got the image.

If models want the very best quality for massive print by a lab, then I use Aperture to export a PSD file (usually 100Mbytes-400Mbytes) and upload it to the FTP server for download availability.
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OregonVelo is a group administrator OregonVelo says:

Okay, maybe I am out dated on my information. I send 720 pixels x 480 pixels, that is the resolution. For simplicity sake, 72 dpi means that the size you see it on your monitor is the size it will print out. So if I send out a 720 x 480 to the printer it will roughly be 7 inches by 6.67 inches. It will look like crap but it will be the same size as your monitor. Now a 720 x 480 at 300 dpi will print out a nice 2.4 inch by 1.6 inch image. (Please someone, correct me if I am wrong)

So in a TF case I default to a 720x480 image with the understanding it is used for digitial world. That way I control how the image looks. There are good and bad ways to resize an image and every image is different. Some people tend to oversharpen, others leave their photos too soft.

I find that most people just want to use the photos on the web, but in the case that they want to print out the images, I offer the large sizes upon request. Since I have my own website, I just use that. I send the models a link with a password. I even give them the option of printing if they like. This means that they have access to a professional print house.

On a side/similiar note, some people say that they give a 1 MB (megabite) files to people. This is the wrong decription. Why? because that decribes the file size, not the image size. Two images that are the same size pixel size can be different in file size. To test, save a high key image and a low key image.

The correct term is 1 MP (megapixel) and is a file size of (2048 × 1536 pixes).
93 months ago (permalink)

easy truck [deleted] says:

I make both a web size version (usually around 1000px tall or wide) and a full size version available for download on my web site.

Both versions small and large are 300dpi and I really haven't given much thought to changing the dpi density. I hardly ever get to print any of my photos, so I go with the default settings of Lightroom and Photoshop.

Try to keep the file size for the web version under 800 kb which seems to be the sweetspot for a lot of web sites.
93 months ago (permalink)

simple support [deleted] says:

I use google photo. You get 1024 megs free with a gmail account. You can pick public or private web page links.
I use the private option and give that to the model.

I'll put up most all the images (generally a 250k to 1 meg size image) from the shoot to this private link. I tell the model that the 'proofs' are for shape and line only. It is not the finished product.

Workflow
1. photo shoot - share with model what and were I'll be putting images.
2. look over and upload most all images to google photo
3. let model pick 4 to 5 of the 'proofs'
4. process the 'proofs' - add 'color' and 'life'
5.repeat till one or both of us is pissed off

If they would like a print or two I can and have printed whatever size they like. I have no problem go as large as they like.

When I'm done with this job I delete the images from google photo.

yes I know this is a lot of work but I have no social life and I really like doing this.
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ShutterCraze (NUEL) is a group administrator ShutterCraze (NUEL) says:

I heard about www.yousendit.com a while ago and decided not to trust them. Although I'm sure it meets the needs of sending files and provides a great service well. I'm sure other websites may do the same record recording of personal info but I try to limit my visits to those types of sites if I can. Call me paranoid and kooky. From yousendit's website:

"Log Data. When you visit the Site or use the Service, whether as a YouSendIt subscriber or a non-registered user just browsing (any of these, a "YouSendIt User"), our servers automatically record information about your use of the Service and your visit to the Site ("Log Data"). This Log Data includes the filename and file size of all files that you make available via the Service. The Log Data may also include information such as your computer's Internet Protocol (IP) address, your browser type, what Software you were using, the web page you were visiting immediately prior to visiting our Site, pages of our Site that you visited, the time spent on those pages, information you searched for on our Site, access times and dates, and other statistics...".
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Placebo #4 says:

Wow, this was just what I was looking for and more! I'm looking forward to trying a file sending site as I will fill up my gmail if I keep sending images. Thanks all!
93 months ago (permalink)

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DougBPhoto says:

@ShutterCraze..

That kind of info being mined is so common it is ridiculous.

Do you think that info is not being recorded right here on Flickr? Heck, if you're using Flickr, you're giving them WAY more info than yousendit is mining.

That said, I probably would not use yousendit to send someone nudes from a private shoot, especially if the model may not be using the images online... then, for security purposes, I'd resort to a CD/DVD.

Lately, I've had some clients needing a lot of high-res images, and I've just put them into a stuffed file and uploaded them to web space, and then sent them the link.

There are lots of ways to do it.. mostly a matter of personal needs and concerns.
93 months ago (permalink)

simple support [deleted] says:

I am not unaware of the privacy issues. But I believe we are picking and choosing our issues/web sites. Unless one has their web browser locked down are sort of information leaks out. What upsets me is not my information is 'leaked' but I get nothing in return for said information. Personal information is worth something we user should be paid for it.
93 months ago (permalink)

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OregonVelo is a group administrator OregonVelo says:

Oh, but we do get a lot in return. enough? I don't know. Any site that is free is giving you a service. It really isn't free, it is just at the cost of your personal information.
93 months ago (permalink)

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DougBPhoto says:

Well, any site is gonna track how you use their site... and if you're using them for file transfers, it makes sense that they would, ummm, keep track of the file names you're uploading... like how else could they provide the service without doing so?

If you're concerned about security, how about things like Google keeping a permanent record of any search you ever do and making that information available to the government, same for your email messages. Unlike snail mail where they would actually come into your house.

It really isn't anything new, to me the issue is are places being open about it or secretive about it, and are they trying to gather too much info, or a reasonable amount. In this case, it seems incredibly reasonable.

Many other sites and add-ons that mine far more info.
93 months ago (permalink)

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dansana says:

I always send two copies of every image - one for electronic sharing and one for printing.

The printing image is always the highest quality and is nearly identical to the one I would use to send to the print lab. The only difference is with the color space profile – customers get a generic Adobe RGB 1998 profile rather than my lab’s profile.

The image for electronic sharing is resampled to 640px on the longest edge – Lightroom takes care of this. I leave the quality at 100% and embed the sRGB colors pace profile.

DPI resolution is irrelevant for electronic viewing. Set it to 1, 72, or 3000dpi and nothing changes – nobody cares. Most PCs use a screen resolution of 97 to 103 while Macs can be closer to 130dpi. An image of 640px wide will consume about half my screen regardless of the dpi embedded in the file header. 72 dpi monitors were filling our landfills 20 years ago. There is no longer a 72dpi standard.

To determine the dpi resolution for your screen – measure the viewing width of your screen and divide it into the horizontal resolution you are using. Mine is 101.3dpi. Now plug that value into your Photoshop preferences and you will get a more accurate view of your image when editing at 100%. This is one of the few cases (if there are any others) where dpi will matter for electronic viewing.
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