Mark Chamberlin - SmarterPics PRO 5:53pm, 3 February 2009
Okay, is it just me, or is anyone else getting tired of weak comments on their photos? Personally, I appreciate good solid feedback and critiques on stuff I post. The "nice" comment is getting old. It's good to get positive comments. Don't mean to degrade that, but if I am going to take the effort to comment, I personally like to say something a little more constructive.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you appreciate meatier comments or are you okay with "nice shot?"
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coupeowner 9 years ago
Personally, I like a meatier comment. I have alot to improve on, and could use the insight. But I have steered away from giving them because I have offended a couple of people before who were obviously not looking for any critique - but just praise. If I like it, I leave a comment and try to tell them why it appeals to me. If I don't like it, or if something is really driving me nuts about the composition/lighting/pose, I just move on.

I will gladly give your stuff a more honest critique in the future.
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kenneth barton PRO 9 years ago
Yes, I've pissed off a few people here by simply trying to be constructive. Still, I'll never bullshit anyone though. I often just put "nice" but when I say it I mean it. Sometimes I'll say a lot more of course but if I think a photo is just sort of OK or just pretty good, I tend to simply not say anything.

If you post a lot in this group and I don't leave you comments, well um...you get the picture.

I do try and be critical of those I feel can take it, and I love it when my photos are criticized. Ms. Antiorder layed into me once in a while last year and I thought it was great; more dialoque the better as far as I'm concerned. I'm just shy about being hated or considered a pompus know-it-all, or whatever.

-ken
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OregonVelo 9 years ago
A couple other groups use the word 'critique' as a tag. This way the people that are looking for honest critique can get it.

I too like a good critique and when I have asked for it, this group has been pretty good at it.
afraid caption [deleted] 9 years ago
I fully agree that the meaty comments are my favorite! Just today Ken gave me some really great feedback and it helped me to see what i can do differently. Adding critique as a tag is an awesome idea! What a perfect way to let people know you can handle the "real" critiques and don't just need the pat on the ass. I'd love to get more feedback that can ultimately help me become a better photographer!
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metakephoto PRO Posted 9 years ago. Edited by metakephoto (admin) 9 years ago
I like the "critique" tag idea....cause i'm always afraid of pissing people off with an honest critique and wonder if they can really handle the feedback anyhow.
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LukeOlsen PRO Posted 9 years ago. Edited by LukeOlsen (admin) 9 years ago
I'm not sure Flickr is the best forum for an honest critique and frankly I would rather not risk pissing someone off and starting a whole back and forth between various photographers. When getting a critique a lot can be gained by body language and other nuances that a simple paragraph of text won't give.

I've attended lots of photography classes and workshops and while the technical criticism is good the subjective criticism really depends on the person giving the criticism and even then, in my opinion, should be taken with a grain of salt.

I like the critique tag idea, but it would also help to post something on the forum that says something like "Please critique" because I'm probably not going to browse (or search) someone's Flickr stream just to see the critique tag.

It would also help to know a little on what you were trying to go for with a particular shot. Pretend you're standing in front of a group of photographers (or art critics), you wouldn't just toss a print onto a table (well... maybe you would) and stand back. I imagine you would say something about it first. You should communicate that when asking for a critique. Besides helping you narrow down what you are thinking with a particular shot it conveys an implicit seriousness to the criticism you elicit.

-Luke
Pantene Banderas 9 years ago
If it helps, I can privately think of you as a pompus know it all Ken.
Mark Chamberlin - SmarterPics PRO Posted 9 years ago. Edited by Mark Chamberlin - SmarterPics (member) 9 years ago
Thanks for all the discussion on this topic.

I think that the key to good feedback is tact, sensitivity and owning that your comment is your opinion. If it's done with respect to the other photographer and in the light of feedback and not slamming someone, then it should be taken that way. Subtle suggestions over overt criticism can be highly constructively. At least in my humble opinion. Let's see what happens.
Black Panther Photography Posted 9 years ago. Edited by Black Panther Photography (member) 9 years ago
i'll take "nice shot". It makes me want to get more "nice shots". really any feedback i like - also quite a few of my flickr friends are italian/hungarian etc., so i try to keep my comments simple....)~D
WJPpdx 9 years ago
I'm looking for honest critiques, that's the whole point for me. To tap into the collective experience and make some progress. I wouldn't be offended if someone said something that wasn't sugar coated. If they were really harsh I'd likely just chuckle and try to take whatever real criticism it contained and move on. Lots of folks are a bit sensitive though.

I always hate to see one of my photos got views but no comments, it leaves me wondering why and what I could change to make a bigger impact with the image. I'd rather hear "good lighting but too ordinary" than no comments at all.
Ben Lundberg 9 years ago
i think that my problem is sometimes i just don't know honestly how to critique a photo... now i normally just do people shots, so i comment constructively on those, but for other types of photography i just don't know what to say sometimes... lol if i see a well done nightscape shot i'll just say something simple, but for poorly taken ones i'm not exactly sure what i could say to help them improve it... so i just don't comment on those i guess..

sorry this is just a rambling response... lol

-ben
One thing i've noticed is that there are quite a few natural light pics posted on this site....I hope you don't mind me mentioning that I rather like that this site is specifically a strobist site. Makes it more specific and interesting. There are several other Portland sites where natural light pics can be posted.

~ David
Your probably referring to a couple of mine that I just posted. I put them up for this group because they were taken at a PDX Strobist meet up and I thought that others that were there would like to see them. Admins can take them down if they want.
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