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Lighting Q?

Schona Kessler 2:16am, 13 November 2008
Ok so I am new to all of this...

I have an alien bee 800 and my 580ex speedlite.

I am wondering...if I can fire the speedlite with the bee without triggers by putting the 580ex on slave?

Or is there another way?

Thanks for any help
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OregonVelo 10 years ago
Sadily enought the answer is no. Canon seems to be the least open of all the systems.

If I am wrong, can someone correct me and let me know the answer.

To trigger canon speedlites you either need to use their ttl system or something like pocket wizards, ebay triggers...
Schona Kessler 10 years ago
Thanks....!

I like the idea of pocket wizards but hear a lot of the cactus triggers...besides distance and price issues can someone tell me the major difference?
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
Can you use it the other way around since the AB800 can be triggered optically?

Or... you can always pick up an optical trigger for the Speedlite. There are many brands out there... I don't enough of them to recommend any of them though.
Schona Kessler 10 years ago
I can fire the bee with my speedlite while on camera...I am wondering how to get the speedlite off camera lol. Thanks
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
Right. So now were just dealing with the Speedlite. From what I hear the Pocket Wizards are most reliable. I've only had issues with them around large bodies of metal. Usually moving the angle of the antenna is all that is needed for that.

I would look into the miles and miles of discussions about this in the main Strobist group.
Schona Kessler 10 years ago
Thanks so much for your input! I will go there!
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metakephoto PRO 10 years ago
In my opinion the cheapest route is to get a TTL sync cord and you can hand hold the flash off camera, but if you want to go further than arms length from yhour camera, there's a bunch of remote options like OregonVelo mentioned above.
Schona Kessler 10 years ago
I have been using a cord from the bee to the camera...and bouncing my flash... I am guessing that's the cord you are talking about. So I guess I will go upstairs and check it out!
Will be back.
Schona Kessler 10 years ago
ok...the cord from the bee doesn't go from the camera to the 580ex...wrong plug type...so that didn't work
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
The 580ex doesn't have a PC sync port like the 580exII has (I'm assuming your using the 40d's sync port to connect to the AB800). You might want to get a hot shoe cord if you wanted to go the corded route.
Schona Kessler 10 years ago
Ok...well I guess what I really am going to want is my flash to be off camera no cords....on a lightstand with an umbrella....

At home my alien bee will work but needs to be plugged in so don't think I will want to buy a generator for it...hope I don't sound too dumb...lol

after watching Christophr (from flickr) shoot like this but with Nikon....I realize I want this...lol.

Can a flash recycler be just on the flash without being on the camera? I feel like my flash dies too quickly.
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OregonVelo 10 years ago
If your flash is dieing too quickly, you are either using the flash in full power all the time or your batteries are dead. Try dialing down your flash to 1/4 and set your camera setting around that. You flash will last a whole lot longer. Cheaper than buying a battery pack or recycler.
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
Three things:
1. On the remote issue look into the remotes that OregonVelo mentioned earlier. AlienBees sells remotes too.

2. For your AB800 you'll need to plug it in or get a portable battery pack. Alien Bees sells the Vagabond.

3. If your flash isn't recycling fast enough then I would second what OregonVelo says and also... carry another set or sets of batteries.
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