Tom.Lechner PRO 11:53pm, 22 July 2008
This will be a workshop about how to make spherical panormas. It will be Sunday September 7 at 3:30pm and at coupeowner's place, the exact address to be emailed to you as the time approaches, but is roughly in SW Portland, not downtown. He has room enough for about 10 people.

This will also be a potluck so sign up for food!

----Signed up, 10 max-----

tom - dolmas
silverwolfe - chips and salsa
coupeowner
pdxpics - grilled chicken
photointerference - Pumpkin Dessert
whoowl
moore fun - drinks


-----Topics-----
Hardware:
- lenses, calibration concerns, focusing
- camera mounts: human tripod, homemade, prefab, robotic, kites
- what's available, and how much it costs
Stitching Software
- what's available, and how much it costs, and what they do
-- Hugin, Autopano Pro, Ptgui, etc.
- crossover with hdr tools: Hugin+enfuse, for instance
Technique:
- camera settings, full manual mode or not?
- handheld versus tripod
- touching up stitching errors
- special concerns for strobists
Where to go for more information, such as panotools wiki or the flickr equirectangular group.
pdxblazer503 10 years ago
oh man... I will still be in Beijing then
Auzigog 10 years ago
If anyone wants to read up on how to do this in Photoshop before they go to this session, I just happened to have written a tutorial on this subject last week: Polar Panoramas

Here were my results:




Sadly, I won't be able to make it to this workshop. Have fun everyone!
Whoowl 10 years ago
I would like to join you guys for this one.
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coupeowner 10 years ago
Does anybody have access to a really large flat-panel monitor for this? I have a 19" at home and I don't think that will cut it.

By the way, my house is between Gabriel Park and Alpenrose Dairy in SW Portland.
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metakephoto PRO 10 years ago
I'll bring cookies
GeoFX 10 years ago
I can bring my LCD monitor, it's either 22" or 24" which I don't remember. Or if you have LCD TV at your place, it should be able to hook it up with VGA cable.

I will also bring chips.
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coupeowner 10 years ago
Thanks George. Unfortunately we don't have a LCD TV. Just a huge old CRT TV that's too big for the room we will be in.
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ShutterCraze (NUEL) Posted 10 years ago. Edited by ShutterCraze (NUEL) (admin) 10 years ago
I'm really interested in how you guys end up visually presenting because I'm struggling with this issue too for planning our Workflow Workshop. My living room will be filled up with the attendees and I have a hodgepodge of chairs and sofas to arrange. My goal is to have everyone comfortable for a few hours, and at the same time people are able to see menus and such on a screen. I'm trying to avoid having 10 people crowd around a single monitor.

I have experimented with my three 26 inch monitors displaying in mirror mode with a DVI splitter connected to my MacBookPro. The problem is that my MacBookPro knows there is only one monitor connected so it assigns one single monitor color profile to all three monitors. As a result one monitor is displaying correct colors and the other two are not. I could not see smaller windows and menus if I were farther then a few feet away. I also have a decent size LCD TV but we will be using it for a special type of presentation using the AppleTV.

My solution I think will be to use a projector with my MacBookPro and point it to my livingroom wall. My problem is that I don't personally own a projector and I'm trying to borrow my workplace's projector. Just my two cents.

Nuel.
Tom.Lechner PRO 10 years ago
It is possible I can temporarily aquire a digital projector for the event, but I'm not sure yet. Otherwise, I can plug my laptop into this box I have that accepts standard computer VGA and allows plugging into a standard RCA video in. Can't remember if it's 1024x768 or 800x600, but I'll find out.
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ShutterCraze (NUEL) 10 years ago
Yah, I'm hoping for the digital projector too. I will run my monitor displays at 1600x1200 along with also displaying the projector at 1024x768. That way people can decide where they want to sit in the living room and still get a glance at a display or the living room wall.

Your box sounds like a sVGA to composite video convertor. If that is the case you will be only get something like 728x576. I think you will be disappointed in your presentation.
Alright!! A meeting I will finally be able to make and not be out of town. Count me in if room is still available.

Working evenings blows!
Oh and I can bring some drinks. Beer ok or soda?
Tom.Lechner PRO 10 years ago
Either's fine by me, though I'm not much of a drinker. If everyone gets drunk and there's a food fight, I want to make a panorama of it.
Don Pyle 10 years ago
My first meet up with you guys and not sure how extensive the potluck is Looks like the drink and dessert is taken care of so I think I will grille up enough chicken for 10 if that works for everyone.
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metakephoto PRO 10 years ago
@ryan_nowell: i prefer soda, but i cant speak for the entire group
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
I'm not a beer drinker but don't let me stop you... I know... blasphemy in Portland.
Whoowl 10 years ago
I would recommend a projector too. I was going to do that for the events at my place but the only one I had access to was 800x600 and the colors were awful on it.

We really need a bigger resolution projector with good color. Maybe we can all kick in $5 towards a rental?

I also have a RGB to Component box that outputs up to HD (1080i) values. It can be tricky to get the resolution just right for the TV to like it. Not all video cards support outputting at TV resolutions versus standard computer ones.
Whoowl 10 years ago
www.lcd2go.com has this one for $85 for a single day.

Sharp PG-M20X
Super light (5.8lbs) and portable! Excellent all-purpose projector with plenty of brightness and resolution to handle any presentations. Easy to use and looks great. Loaded with all the latest features.
* DLP (Digital Light Processing) projector
* Resolution: 1024x768 XGA (1600x1200 UXGA on PCs)
* Brightness: 190 0 ANSI Lumens
* Contrast ratio: 1000:1
* Video Compatibility: NTSC: M, 4.43, PAL: B, G, I, M, N, SECAM
* Remote control
* Compatibility: PC, Mac, VCRs, DVD players
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metakephoto PRO 10 years ago
I have a projector that i use for my night photography class that I can bring. But i'm not sure the resolution
It looks like I will be able to make this if there is room still. I can bring some potatoe salad or something eqivalent.
silverwolfe PRO 10 years ago
chips & salsa ;)
moore fun 10 years ago
Oooh, how exciting. It doesn't look like you have a waiting list yet. May I please be first on the list in case spots open up? I joined a group like this a couple of years ago here on Flickr. The photos are great! Check it out - Create Your Own Planets
qman5030 PRO 10 years ago
I can make this and bring an LCD projector if it helps.
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ShutterCraze (NUEL) 10 years ago
I bought a $150 USB video adapter for the Workflow meetup last week that you guys are welcome to borrow for this meetup. I had a MacBookPro connected to an external monitor via the laptop's DVI connector, then I used the USB video adapter to route video to the digital projector. This allowed me to run both displays at 1280X1024 which is not the best resolution but it worked for what we needed it to do for using a laptop. The USB device actually can run up to 1600X1200 resolution. It would be much easier if you had a desktop with dual video outputs, but if you are in the same position as I was you are welcome to borrow my gear.

Nuel.
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
Hey coupeowner will we be able to park across the street in "that" lot?
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metakephoto PRO 10 years ago
or should we just park on your front lawn?
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coupeowner 10 years ago
Yep, the church parking lot should be clearing out by then.

No parking on the lawn- it may kill the dandelions and clover.
Just found out that I will be out of town on work. Really wish I could have made this one. Sorry but I hope to make another meeting soon.

Ryan
moore fun 10 years ago
Sorry to hear you can't make it Ryan, but woo hoo, I'm in. I'll bring drinks. (*thinking out loud, "I better post my other photos this week")
GeoFX 10 years ago
I will not be able to make to the workshop this week due to important project at work. You guys have fun. ^_^
I had to schedule a family shoot for Sun afternoon so won't be making it. I was really looking forward to learning more about Tom's magic! Have a great time. I am looking forward to seeing some interesting examples posted.
Don Pyle 10 years ago
I will need an address for
Tom.Lechner PRO 10 years ago
So hopefully everyone has coupeowner's address now.

I'll be bringing dolmas to eat.
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metakephoto PRO 10 years ago
last minute change of plans...so I cant make it....
Tom.Lechner PRO 10 years ago
Down to 7! Well for any who don't come, I'm going to try to put my notes for this online in some form.
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LukeOlsen PRO 10 years ago
Thanks Tom for putting this together. It was cool to see the various software pieces (including your own) used together to make all sorts of cool images. Thanks also to David for letting us crash at his place and to the others for bringing all the goodies.
Tom.Lechner PRO 10 years ago
Thanks to everyone who came, loved that pumpkin dessert.
I hope I made enough sense, never really tried to explain panorama making in such detail before. It's a lesson for me to have a prepared slide list ready to go, rather than try to grab things off the net... I blame parkour, which I was doing earlier in the day (as well as riding around, trying to get a projector)!
silverwolfe PRO 10 years ago
Yes!!!, thank you very much Tom & Coupeowner-Dave ;))
it was very interesting, good munchies, and intriguing discussion!!
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coupeowner 10 years ago
Tom,
You did great. A great overview and good examples. And I came away fired up to try it out (not overwhelmed or confused - that comes later). Thanks for all the time you put into this.
Don Pyle Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Don Pyle (member) 10 years ago
Thanks Tom
Enjoyed your presentation and look forward to giving this a shot. I've taken a series of images and will get started with the processing later in the week.
Thanks Again
Hey Tom, I felt bad missing this. I hear it went really well. It sure would be cool if you posted your notes on this. I know there are probably a lot of us that would love to see them.

Looking forward to the next one. Maybe we can get it back on the calendar again in a couple of months.
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