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Optional tagging, in addition to obligatory tagging

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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

To quote a loplop: I'd like to add my personal endorsement of your "token cat photo" tag, and propose that in addition to the obligatory "not my cat" tag, we introduce a second tier of optional tags officially recognised by the group, of which yours is the first.

So, to clarify the situation (and I realise that this bit is important, whilst still amazingly complicated):

"not my cat" is an obligatory tag

"token cat photo" is an additional and optional tag

I hope this is clear
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

Relates to...
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

I hereby give "token cat photo" the Somebody else's cat seal of approval.
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:



(OK, it's not my seal, but I haven't had time to upload one yet...)
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

I hereby give "not my seal" the Somebody else's cat elephant of approval.
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Paula Wirth says:

don't forget "token sneeze"
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

Oh yes, thanks for reminding me! (was trying to flickr and cook penne all'arrabbiata simultaneously -- not recommended.)

It is my great pleasure to confer the somebody else's cat-elephant-seal of approval (whichever tickles your fancy)



upon "token sneeze", which may be used for both sneezing cats and the other unmentionable kind.
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WaterWindStars says:

OH DEAR, somewhere I took dr loplop to task for dropping an epenthetic "n" from tonkinese when in fact I was simply experiencing a lacuna known as a mental sneeze.

Dare I ask, may I exercise the boots stomp of approval or disapproval or mayn't I?
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

You mayn't
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

Oh, go on! Let's be democatic about this whole thing.

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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

catachresis again loplop?
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

Catachresis is my catchword.
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

I've got another tag suggestion, as used by one of our new members Aunt TK.

How about "thank goodness", to directly follow "not my cat" for use in circumstances where the custodianship of said cat would be, for whatever reason, less than desirable?
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WaterWindStars says:

But in order to maintain balance in the cosmos in accordance with the good loplop's weltanschaumiauung,there must be two optional options, either "thank goodness" or "helas." There are cases of cat owners' nameless yearnings for other persons' cats, you know.
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

You have a point, but there's a very fine line between coveting somebody else's cat and calling that cat "my cat", and we can't be seen to condone that.

Also, people might confuse "Helas" with "Heals", renowned London purveyors of the finest scratching posts.
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WaterWindStars says:

or Seals.
or Condone with Cones.

I am disposed to agree, 'twould be improvident.
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

I would like to remind you of the recent survey that suggested that at least two out of one hundred not cat owners might prefer to tag as you have suggested, on account of the feral nature of some cats.
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

Deep in the forest, we have an interesting labelling and tagging dilemma going on. It seems that a colloquial term "Other People's Cat/s" is coming into use, along with the related but optional tag "cool OPC"

Please advise.
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WaterWindStars says:

I like our tag (SEC) (sic).
...............

Well I'm against it
I'm against it
Well I'm against it
I'm against it
I don't like politics
I don't like communists
I don't like games and fun
I don't like anyone
And I'm against...
I don't like Jesus freaks
I don't like circus geeks
I don't like summer and spring
I don't like anything
I don't like sex and drugs
I don't like waterbugs
I don't care about poverty
All I care about is me
And I'm against...
I don't like playing ping pong
I don't like the Viet Cong
I don't like Burger King
I don't like anything
And I'm against...
Well I'm against it
I'm against it
--RAMONES
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

Thank you for bringing this to the group's attention AnnabelB, your timely vigilance will not be forgotten (similarly Boots, for your lucid clarification -- though are you sure it was the Ramones and not Groucho Marx?). Aside from the inherent inter-species ambiguity that contributes to the feral mystery of Kevin's photo, I'm afraid that the tagging dilemma might just represent the proverbial tip of the iceberg that has been discovered floating in a vast can of worms.

To trace the origins of this problem, we must revisit the earliest extant references to the memo, which interestingly use the term "someone else's cat" (my italics, added for emphasis), as does page one of the memo itself on two separate occasions. However, nowhere does the memo refer to "other people's cats". The term "somebody else's cat" seems to have come into use shortly before the republication of the memo, and quickly became the de facto standard as well as the name of the group dedicated to the cause. The sanctity of the antithetical tags "not my cat" and "my cat" has never been in dispute.

Therefore, while I would usually be happy to endorse "cool OPC" as an official optional tag, in this case I must advise caution, largely due to its potential to cause confusion and to damage the Somebody else's cat brand. This announcement has been brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood admin, along with the colour orange and the letter Q.
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

The small print: Somebody else's cat® and not my cat® are trademarks of the Somebody else's cat group. Your cat may be at risk if you fail to tag it "not my cat" or keep up repayments on any loan secured on it. Remember that other people's cats may go up and down.
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squacco says:

Especially when placed on a trampoline
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:


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WaterWindStars says:

Amazing parry & feint!
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

I believe loplop has (elsewhere) proposed an optional new tag, namely not my newt, obviously

What say the board members?
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

I'd also like to seek clarification from the board as to whether "newt" is actually shorthand (minute-taker style) for "new tag"
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[togr] is a group administrator [togr] says:

I fear an inflation in tagging, with subsequent devaluation of the value of all the tags, including the originals. Obviously, OPC should've been SEC, the negative associations that might bring out in some notwithstanding.

(returning to trying to imagine an iceberg floating in a can of worms)
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

Ooo, is there a picture of one somewhere on Flickr?

I mean an iceberg floating in a can of worms
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AnnabelB is a group administrator AnnabelB says:

And are there seals floating on the floating iceberg? Or penguins?
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WaterWindStars says:

Sardines from Norway in mustard sauce? Kippers? Herring? inquires this administrator's alertly interested team of furry conesultants.
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

There's no need for inflationary panic yet, togr. Of the proposed optional tags, it seems that only "token cat photo", "token sneeze" and "not my seal" have been endorsed in any way, compared to the multitude of unofficial tags in circulation -- including not my big cat, not my meerkat, not schroedinger's cat, not mog the forgetful cat, not my chat, nicht meine katze, 沒有我的貓, not mornington crescent, not my favourite shade of green, not my octopussy, not my crazy coot, not my toast, not my pelican, not my unpalatable mouse, not my recurve nylon bowcase with foam insert for takedown bow -- to name but a few.

Even so, I'd suggest that "not my newt" and its converse "my newt", are more suitable for the Tags are the new comments group, as outlined by AnnabelB above.

Oh, and those things you can see floating on the iceberg floating in the worms. They're worms too.

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WaterWindStars says:

Today is Cat Boxing Day! What shall we do about it???

(For more information see Comments [not tags] to the following, which is of my own cat but he's only here peripherally and parenthetically)
www.flickr.com/photos/11296846@N00/131082520/in/photostream/
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

Oh dear, I seem to have missed Cat Boxing Day.

That aside, I bring news of a new tag! Discovered on this photo by geeveecatullus, the intriguing yet catchy "cowcat".

Pending confirmation of the tag's actual meaning, I thought it would be prudent to canvass group opinion, particularly in view of the historical enmity between cows and cats.
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WaterWindStars says:

I tender a proposal that geeveecatullus report on what sounds issue from the cowcat's mouth when it has occasion to speak.
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

I awate her response with baited bread...

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WaterWindStars says:

I hope he rises to the occasion.
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geeveecatullus says:

lolol!
The reality is a lot more boring than that; I've heard it used for a black & white spotty cat that looks similar to a certain type of cow.

For further confusing I should have tagged it as "caw".
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WaterWindStars says:

my next door neighbor has a B&W spotty cat named Trina (he's a he and there's a story there) who has a swinging udder and I call him a guernsey cow. I have PICTURES of him and his brother Tippy, who is quite sleek--and they are most definitely Somebody Else's Cats and if I can get to it, I need to scan and post Tippy & Trina. (OK, here's the story, Trina was named after the owner's previous dearly beloved cat named Katrina, who was a male who was originally thought to be female and named Katrina and who kept the name after his true colors were discovered, so to speak) (p.s. that's how my sister's cat came to be called Eureka!) (p.s. the exclamation point is part of the name) !
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

Well, low and beholstein!
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elvissa says:

I must say, this group is a breath of fresh air. Along with OYT it's the most literate group I belong to, I think. Thanks for the intelligent reading material, everyone.
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Paula Wirth says:

Personally, my favorite tag for most cats is "fuzzybutt"... not sure how literate that is... ;-)
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WaterWindStars says:

it's kitty litterate and that's good enough for us.

my own version is "fluffybloomers"
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dr_loplop is a group administrator dr_loplop says:

For some reason, all I am able to think of is Baldassare Catsiglione (if that is how his name is spelt)


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[togr] is a group administrator [togr] says:

The original (as far as I can tell) is here

(back in Svalbard, but soon to leave for good)
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WaterWindStars says:

That is one disgruntled cat!

Where are you heading, Captain Togr Sir? Watch out for the coast of Newfoundland, it's on your left (depending on which way you are headed).

Ensign Boots
salutes
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