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tubes. says:

Well folks. I did something stupid. In my anger over people posting messages that ripped on or threatened other users, I went in to make the group join-able only if people asked. I thought that meant making it private. Unfortunately, it doesn't show up now in the listings of groups or in search. For those who are already members, nothing has changed. It just means that new people aren't likely to join because they won't be able to find the group. I didn't realize that. I assumed they could always email me if they wanted join (which they can still do) and I could make them a member, but if they can't find the group then that is unlikely. Unfortunately now that it is private, it can't be undone.

Maybe this is a good thing since the newest members seem to be here for the wrong reasons. However, I think that anyone should at least have the opportunity to join and this should all be discoverable.

So, I'm happy to start a new group that is public (calling it street art minneapolis or something like that)or someone else is welcome to do so since I seem to be having trouble and some people have called me on my, um "ignorance" about street art! Let me know what you guys think.
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DR. LIME GREEN says:

i think your doing allright...tubes.
if you want to quit, i would be too biast, and prob boot youknowwho.
but thats just me.......
if you build it they will come..
or something like that.
you wont hear another peep out of me.
i got art to make son!!!!!
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smcgee says:

I've heard on flickr central that if enough people ask flickr folks nicely (and quickly) a conversion of a group to private can be un-done. Send a message to flickr help, ASAP, explaining the situation. If there are any other admins, ask them to do the same. I can send an email, too, if you want?

The private/invite only/hidden group discussion options are confusing, I think. It was good you took some action, sean.
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tubes. says:

Aimes, thanks man. Yeah, I suppose since I'm not really in the scene (huh, "the scene" - I'm so old) that does make me un biassed so that is the one good thing. I try to be fair.

Sarah, I was thinking about that but wasn't sure. Thanks for letting me know. Maybe I will try and see what they say. Doh! What have I done???
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tubes. says:

Oh, and Sarah, please do send an email as well. Give me about a half hour or so though. Thanks.
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SurlyGrrrl says:

perhaps if we all beg flickr it can be reversed & then you can do what you intended initially. it was a mistake based on confusion, after all.
i think you're doing a fine job, personally. granted i am another one of those "ignorant" folks, i'm sure (i am but a humble photographer who loves the hell out of this stuff), but i think it's important to have an admin with an objective perspective. the last thing a group like this needs is to be run by one "faction" over another. relative neutrality is a must, especially in light of recent actions & feelings.
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tubes. says:

Thanks surlygrrrl! Fell free to beg as well. Hopefully they will be nice. I'm keeping my hopes up.
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F. Swift says:

is the beggn helpn? Call me TLC- Iain't 2 proud 2 beg.

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I dropped a note.

Hopefully some others have as well
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smcgee says:

Just got a message from Heather that we're public again. Thanks, flickr staff...
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tubes. says:

That's so weird because I just got an email saying that they wouldn't do it. Oh well, that's great! Thanks!

So, are you guys cool with me switching it to invite only (meaning they have get approved before they join) or should we just play it by ear and see how things go? My only criteria would be that they at least have some photos in their stream and at least one pertains to the group. I just don't want to deal with people who create accounts to just start trouble but I'll deal if you all think it's better to keep it open. It's everyones group, I juts administer it.
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Shye Bunnysuit says:

i'm pretty sure that the "drama" is only recent shit.. i know its a legitamite concern, in the whole scheme of thngs but honestly... MCI crew brought the drama cuz of some shit... either way, i do care about this group so anything i can do let me know.
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DR. LIME GREEN says:

i "hope" that people got the message when they got kicked out and that they'll spread the good word......
.....the good word of TUBES!!!!!
coming to stores near you.
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tubes. says:

I hope so too!
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SurlyGrrrl says:

i don't have a problem with invitation-only groups, when i'm already in them... usually if i try to join a group & find it's invitation-only i just say "fuck it," because i never know what to say in the message (am i supposed to sell myself? convince the admin that i'm worthy? link to photos that apply to the group?). but that's just me.
mostly i'm a big fan of admin doing whatever they need to in order to maintain some semblance of sanity. and since you're not in charge of a country here i really don't think you're going to do much damage ;).
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The Curse Of Brian says:

TUBES for president!
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tubes. says:

Oh, I can do damage. I already almost ruined the group! But point taken.
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sparkling judge [deleted] says:

i'd hope it stays open...

not all heads without photos in their stream are comin to beef. some (such as myself) just wanna see who's up, and dont have easy access to scanners or digital cameras...
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