ad hoc horse [deleted] 5:05am, 1 April 2008
How seriously should we be taking the group's title of "Medicinal, Wild and Edible Plants"? There are several photographs here already of plants that are, IMHO, none of these things.

If it's to be a general botanical group, then fine. If not, could we please have some guidelines on what we can submit?

Regards,

Roger

PS I assume the "Edible" to mean humanly edible. There are very few plants that don't have something that eats them. 8-)
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egle_k. Posted 10 years ago. Edited by egle_k. (admin) 10 years ago
Thank you for your remark.
I agree with you that "edible" should be humanly edible. But I do not think that any of most great experts of the world know ALL edible and medicinal plants. Estimated number of only traditionally used medicinal plants is over 30,000. Many things are related with climate, traditions, historical obstacles, etc. One may will find only 180 edible plants inone book and, in another, 1500 growing only in the region of the Middle Europe. And researchers discover unknown local culinary uses of different plants even nowadays.

I was, for example, surprised reading one article that Ruta graveolens first recorded recently as a traditional aromatic herb in Italy and this use was unknown previously. In Lithuania, it is most traditional herb used for fresh cheese dishes, but its use diminished much during soviet times and especially when Lithuanians passed mostly to international kitchen.

Of course, every plant has rules of consumption. And not only medicinal plants. We do not eat some usual products in the morning, some we try only in small amounts, but we are used so, that we do not give account about that. Some of our food may seem totally inedible not only for a person from far region, but also for a neighbour, because the world is diverse.

If somebody finds here that some plants are unknown as medicinal or are not used as culinary plant (added for joke), he or she can ask people for what and where these plants are or were used.

I can also sometimes remove a photo which is not in the scope of our group, as it happened for those two indicated below. But I also can be not right sometimes and your opinion willbe appreciated.

www.flickr.com/photos/idokron/2141537255/
www.flickr.com/photos/idokron/2115011349/
ad hoc horse [deleted] Posted 10 years ago. Edited by ad hoc horse (member) 10 years ago
Thanks, Egle. I like your idea of expecting members to be able to argue for the inclusion of their photos. The alternative would be a wholesale purge, in which case we'd end up mainly with photos of Cassia acutifolia and Rhamnus cathartica. 8-)

In fact, it might be worth asking people to do what many do in part already, which is to give the scientific as well as common name for each plant shown and a clue as to its use.

Here's an example (although I wouldn't expect that much detail from everyone!):

Agrimony

Roger
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egle_k. Posted 10 years ago. Edited by egle_k. (admin) 10 years ago
:) Yes, I agree, full identification is very appreciated here. Ideal case. It is also very interesting to know directly about a plant froma person well familiar with it.

But some people take photos of medicinal plants during short excursions and can add only local name. I have invited some of such photos, because these are the only pictures about concrete plants on Flickr and online information about uses of these plants do not present any difficulty. Such plants were very exotic for me and I certainly would not know about them otherwise for a very long time. I will try to add Latin names where they are absent exploring the pool.
Different contribution of other members of the group is very appreciated too.
seeds n plants bloke 9 years ago
Re: medicinal plants & local names.
There is a facility on the web called MMPND which addresses the problem of matching common / vernacular / local names with the correct botanical name. Search for MMPND with Google.
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egle_k. 9 years ago
Thank you!
ad hoc horse [deleted] Posted 9 years ago. Edited by ad hoc horse (member) 9 years ago
He means the Multilingual Multiscript Plant Name Database, which is here. (No reason why everybody should have to google for it.)

For plants found in Britain, the Botanical Society of the British Isles (BSBI) has its database of common and scientific names available -- rbg-web2.rbge.org.uk/BSBI/intro.php .

For checking just scientific names from around the world, Kew offers this -- epic.kew.org/epic/index.htm .

Roger
ngawangchodron PRO 9 years ago
I think that the group should be for edible (by primates) plants only, which seems to be the purpose judging by the name..there are lots of other wildflower and wild plant groups
Monado 9 years ago
Didn't I read that chimpanzees use 200 different plants, mostly for eating? I hope we get someone who can identify them! We limit ourselves to the few that can be mass-produced by farming.
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jennyhsu47 9 years ago
I thought in this world the floristic component to be too many. Including Amazon River or Indonesia. Sumatra has how many not yet to discover until now…And so on. The earth has 1/4 is land. But this not including desert. and South Pole. North Pole. But in these plants only then we are called the name to seize 1/2 part little. But God, since creates the type which even links us not to be able to say. This is not an amusement. Is also straight the risk to trace? Actually I discovered from this association--- This is a very difficult work. Because you essential make the picture to turn the books especially. Also essential looks for the correlation data not to be possible to have the mistake. This is a really difficult work. But I think. The life from we graduates after the student. Are also some who willing to spend the time to continue to pursue the knowledge again? Chinese said: Lives old and Learns old. I like such amusing group. It's a worth to go on most of life time more than 70~80 years. Does right?
mbgrigby PRO 9 years ago
There should be a limit on posts. Flooding the pool creates uninterest, at least for me. Make the posts interesting as long as informative.
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Same attitude could be applied to aromatic, medicinal and also to perhaps, the more "primitive" utility of various types of plants - in a human specific context as well.

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