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danja. says:

Looking good folks!!

Two requests:

1. rest of the world

2. easy hooks to/from FOAF/RDF
2:39AM, 17 December 2004 PDT (permalink)

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catscape says:

How about a special tag that would exclude a photo from being indexed on mappr? (edit - oops, posted in the anti-Coulter wishlist.)
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early history [deleted] says:

Good idea.
Maybe "Mappr: ignore" is the beginning of a small group of mappr-specific tags?

(Mappr:ignore not currently implemented)
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shamus00 says:

saw a very interesting related project being done by the kids at lomo.

www.lomography.com/worldbrowser/

it's the whole world but no tags involved here. and it's decidedly in the lomo aesthetic. but it's a great look from a different angle as to what's involved in documenting /everything/.

which is what i think the point is.
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MildlyDiverting says:

Yes. Please impliment the rest of the world, or you'll just strengthen all of the rest of the worlds stereotyped assumptions about the USA... :-)

And have you guys seen PML - the psychogeographical markup language? is a bit silly, but entertaining...
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catscape says:

This whole world question has been raised and addressed by rodenbeck1 and migurski here.
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otherthings says:

I tried tagging a photo with "Black Rock" and "Nevada", but Mappr ignored the Black Rock part. Given the number of Burning Man photos out there, would it make sense to hand-add BRC to your database?
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ericrodenbeck is a group administrator ericrodenbeck says:

I talked this over with Mike - luckily this won't start becoming a big issue again until August :) I think we want to avoid hand-adding locations, as much as possible...

But it speaks to a larger issue - how do we get more places into the database, in a way that doesn't require us to hand-add new places every time a new request comes up.

We think that the ideal solution would be to get the flickr community involved in this, in as passive or as active a way as they like. I talked about this a little while ago - there should be some way for mappr to say:

- you posted your photo with "burningman"
-- 1000 photos also tagged with "burningman" have been positively mapped to "gurlach, nevada"
-- 500 photos also tagged with "burningman" have been positively mapped to "san francisco, ca" (say, from decompression)
-- 100 photos also tagged with "burningman" have been postively mapped to "atlanta, georgia" (say, from one of the regional burns)
- is your photo in one of these locations? click on this location to map your photo.

So that's the long answer. The short answer is that in the meantime, you'll have to tag 'em with "gurlach" and "nevada," unless you can get Mike to think otherwise :)
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early history [deleted] says:

Better yet, tag 'em with "Gerlach." ;)

I'll be ready to start thinking about user-submitted locations once I've plowed through all this U.S.government place-name information I'm swimming in. It looks complete, but a little digging shows that the Canada file lacks Toronto and Ottawa (wtf?), and the Poland file has cities double-filed into the old voivodship political divisions and the new ones.
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ajft says:

Just in case people haven't seen it, wwmx.org is a site that uses the GPS info in EXIF.

Has anyone actually looked at what percentage of photos do have GPS info in them?

Adrian (nonexistant, not in the USA)
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Tomas is a group administrator Tomas says:

By the way I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the latest Mappr knows about quite a few cities in Canada and the country of Mexico.
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T.Rob says:

I saw in the Green Car thread that ZIP codes are great now but might become problematic when the rest of the world is added. Looking ahead, should mappr-heads start tagging photos with country names now?

(Aside - "mappr-heads"? What am we, anyway?)
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early history [deleted] says:

Zip codes won't be problematic, so much as unspecific, in the same way that "Springfield" generally needs a U.S. state name to be correctly placed. They're guaranteed-unique by definition in this country, but other countries also use the 5-digit convention (Poland, Germany I think) so there could be confusion unless more information is provided.

I don't expect this to be a risk anytime in the near future though: the Geonet names database I'm currently exploring has no postal information, and it appears to be difficult to get postcode databases for many countries anyway.

"Mappr-heads", heh, I like that!
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matt.ohara says:

incidentally the "Virgin Islands of the U.S." is how mappr finds the USVI. they're not on the map though. YET.
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Green Destiny says:

The only way I can see mappr growing geographically is to switch over to Latitude, Longitude as the location of a photo actually stored. Add these to the zipcode database and placename database and the existing lookup algorithms can stay in place - just change the map location stored. This would be a nice transitional plan.

I suffer with the place name system cause many of my photos are in the middle of nowhere.
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early history [deleted] says:

We do store lat/long in the photos database, just to keep things fast and redundant. So it would be pretty easy to read GPS tags from Flickr and use those, if there is demand for such a thing (sounds like there is). I've shied away from this up til now; as both Eric and I have mentioned here, we like the idea of passive geotagging through placenames more than requiring extra work of photographers to place their images. I'm about to write a little more on this in the Flickr/Mappr thread.

BUT, if you're okay with inputting geo coordinates in tags (most likely in a format similar "mappr:lat:12.34") then this should be a quick addition to make. This would be similar to Mikel Maron's "Geolicious" project.
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zeman says:

here's an experiment world map i'm working on...

Flickr world map

and there's a related flash world map group in which you can find out about upcoming plans to create a flash map you can put on your own website or blog.
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