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gambort PRO 5:42am, 24 May 2009
Kissack1 by ahisgett


Hi all,

Since I have a bit of spare time today I've decided to kick off a second build challenge for the train group. While the Class 44 seems like a good one I kind of feel that these challenges will be more fun if we chop and change each time so...

The second build challenge is to build a 2-4-0 steam locomotive. This is a little more freeform than the last one but steam has its own unique challenges so I feel that it's better to be a little broader. A 2-4-0 loco has one pair of wheels, followed by two pairs of driving wheels.

So. Ask questions here. Post entries in the entry thread and go, go, go.

Tim
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
Just to be clear, it doesn't necessarily have to be based upon a specific prototype?
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
Nope. If you want to freebuild one go for it. I think we're free of the sort of idiocy here that sometimes goes on in Lugnuts but just in case...

If you wish to freebuild it must be
a) a train
b) 2-4-0
c) not some lame attempt to squeeze an existing MOC in for no good reason.

But I assume most of us here know that.
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consular_ship 7 years ago
Since Tim did post it here and someone is bound to ask, the deadline is July 30, 2009.
gerrit carstensen 7 years ago
so this can be any engine if it has 2-4-0 wheel arrangement?
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
Well, he did say steam.
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ta||tim Posted 7 years ago. Edited by ta||tim (admin) 7 years ago
Yum, IoM Beyer Peacock, thats on my to build list, maybe 2050? ;-)
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ta||tim 7 years ago
I think a fairly open challenge is a good idea, this is the right amount of restriction.
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ta||tim 7 years ago
I keep finding that every 2-4-0 I consider building was built by Beyer Peacock!
Cale Leiphart PRO 7 years ago
Curse you! Curse you all.

Since I had won the first build challenge I had planed to sit this one out and concentrate on other projects. But then you picked steam for this challenge. I could let this go since 2-4-0s are an obscure wheel arrangement there are none on my long list of future projects. But as it turns out the Peach Bottom Railway (original predecessor to my much loved Maryland & Pennsylvania RR) had a few narrow gauge 2-4-0s on it's roster. So now I have the tempting challenge of building an 1875 (my first 19th century locomotive) narrow gauge (also a first for me) 2-4-0 (never thought I'd be doing that one) for the Peachy staring at me.

Oh well. I guess I'll be busy building this summer.
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gambort PRO Posted 7 years ago. Edited by gambort (admin) 7 years ago
^ "Post entries in the entry thread and go, go, go." ahem!

Cheers!
gerrit carstensen Posted 7 years ago. Edited by gerrit carstensen (member) 7 years ago
sorry
taltosvt PRO 7 years ago
I don't usually take part in challenges, but this one got me building for some reason. I spent half the day working on an initial model. The one word I have for it is "cute".
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bricktrix PRO 7 years ago
Really tempted as there are engines very close to future builds I have planned, but just dont have the time to complete for deadline. Will have to sit this one out (again)
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swoofty PRO 7 years ago
I won't make any promises for this challenge. I'm still waiting on Tommy to send the engraved bricks from the last one!
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ta||tim 7 years ago
I think you should take part in this one Swoofty!
SavaTheAggie PRO 7 years ago
As long as you don't tell my wife about adding another steam engine to my collection, I may have to participate.
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consular_ship 7 years ago
Don't hold your breath, Swoofty. I ordered a brick badge from Tommy three years ago and haven't heard anything from him since.
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
I found a nice old Welsh tank engine I may have to base something off of....To the LDraw!
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ta||tim 7 years ago

Don't worry, you can tell her its a little one

Linda/Blanche per chance? ;-)
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Duq PRO 7 years ago
A 1-B for us Yurpians. Hmm... not very common on these shores but I'll see what I can come up with.
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
Roughly based on Linda, yes.
Shuppiluliumas PRO 7 years ago
Interesting challenge. I love unusual wheel arrangements. My schedule has recently opened up, so let's see what I can do.
SavaTheAggie PRO 7 years ago
So as per the rules, we can build at 2-4-0 or a 2-4-0T, correct? Personally I think I'll attempt a tank locomotive, just because I've yet to build one.
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
2-4-0T is OK (assuming the T means 'tank'). It's the wheel arrangement that's important.
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consular_ship 7 years ago
Isn't the picture in you linked to a 2-4-0T, Tim?
SavaTheAggie PRO 7 years ago
Yes, the T at the end denotes a tank engine. I was unaware this wheel arrangement has a name (like a 2-8-0 is a "Consolidation" or a 4-6-2 is a "Pacific"), but according to www.steamlocomotive.com , in the United States a 2-4-0 locomotive was known as a "Porter" class.

www.steamlocomotive.com/misc/wheels.shtml
Cale Leiphart PRO 7 years ago
I wasn't aware the 2-4-0 had a name either. But I think I may know where it came from.

I suspect the Porter name came from one of the wheel arrangements biggest supporters the H.K. Porter company. Porter believed that 2-4-0s were better suited to the needs of narrow gauge railroads than a 4-4-0 and sold quite a few to smaller narrow gauge RRs. Including Peach Bottom Railway's Eastern Division #2 which I hope to build for the challenge.
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
I'm assuming digital models are still valid if buildable. If so, do the parts have to be available in the colors used?
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
^ I prefer if you state when they aren't.
Creme-de-la-creme 7 years ago
Ok, I might try this, I'll fail SO quickly though.
Please do expect it to be in MLCad though.
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
Reminder!
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
I made a good deal of progress on mine tonight - would anyone be willing to walk me through the rendering process for an MLCAD model?

Who else is still working on an entry, out of curiosity?
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Duq PRO 7 years ago
I'm still working on something but I'm afraid it will still be a work in progress by the closing date...
James, if you can send me fmail detailing what you've tried and where you're stuck I can give you some pointers for your render.
Cale Leiphart PRO 7 years ago
I'm still planing on building an entry. I may even start building it soon. : )
SavaTheAggie PRO 7 years ago
Maybe I'll try and build an enterable entry. :)
Jayhurst 7 years ago
I'm in.
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Duq PRO 7 years ago
Work got in the way and I didn't get to finish my entry... :-(
I'll finish it in the coming weeks and post it at some point anyway, but it'll be too late for the challenge.
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
NB. "Try to get them in by 30th July 2009 " is not a categorical date but a suggestion. I'm not even sure what I'll do with the entries (a TBB post seems likely) but since I'm overseas right now and won't be home for a few days nothing will happen until early to mid- August.
JamesOfJames 7 years ago
Ah well, so much for getting it in on deadline. I'll finish mine up sometime soon, though it might wait til after BrickFair.
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Duq PRO 7 years ago
Being overseas is my problem too. Sitting in an appartment in Gibraltar at the moment...
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gambort PRO 7 years ago
**** I'll probably do some form of round-up later this week. If you have any last minute entries you want included get them in quick.
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Duq PRO 6 years ago
Work sent me straight from Gibraltar to Indianapolis. I've had 5 hours of sleep in the last 45. No entry from me I'm afraid....
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gambort PRO Posted 6 years ago. Edited by gambort (admin) 6 years ago
It'll take me a bit of time to make a decent TBB post for this so I'll kick it all off here.

Firstly a big thanks to everyone who entered the challenge. The quality of builds is simply excellent and it was especially nice to see some newcomers enter the fray.

What really impressed me was the number of people who managed to fit PF in their models. I know the new system isn't broadly popular but I think you've shown that even the smallest steam loco can be made to work. Similarly the variety of narrow gauge models was fascinating.

I think everyone really busted out great greebling and detailing for these models too. Possibly because the small size required the extra attention to detail.

It went far better than I expected so to everyone who entered or helped those who entered I'd like to extaed a big congratulations.

Keep on building,

Tim
Cale Leiphart PRO 6 years ago
It was certainly a fun challenge and there were some absolutely awesome entries. And seeing the Power Function system being embraced so much is a great sign for the future of LEGO Trains.
Cale Leiphart PRO 6 years ago
I don't mean to sound impatient. I know how busy life can sometimes get. But will a winner be announced at some point?
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gambort PRO Posted 6 years ago. Edited by gambort (admin) 6 years ago
There's no winners in these challenges. I don't like judging contests at the best of times and with trains I find it particularly hard to judge between different choices of scaling.

The main goal is to encourage creativity by getting a number of people to try the same thing. Sort of an accelerated refining proccess for a limited problem.
Cale Leiphart PRO 6 years ago
Well I feel pretty stupid now.
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gambort PRO 6 years ago
Hehehe. I usually spell it out but forgot this time. The first one only had winners and prizes because Swoofty donated them to kick it off.
Jayhurst 6 years ago
Any word on the projected arrival date of the TBB posting you mentioned above?
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gambort PRO 6 years ago
^ No. I'm not even sure I'll do it. I need to do a lot of editing etc. and I can't decide if I'm willing to put in the effort. Maybe a summary when I start the third one.
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