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When do you use Penglish on Flickr?

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StokeNewingtonHistory.com says:

Hello again,

As some of you may remember, I'm conducting a research looking into the use of Flickr by people from different countries ( www.flickr.com/groups/iranian/discuss/72157603570560532 ). During my observations, I noticed that sometime Persian is written using English characters and was told that this form of writing is known as Penglish. I would very much like to know when would people usually prefer to use Penglish rather than Persian. Is it simply a matter of not being able to type characters due to keyboard and computer configuration or are there other reasons?

Thanks a lot,

Amir

PS

As I don't read Persian I would appreciate it if you could reply in English :)
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Dr. Hendi says:

Hi Amir,
You are right.
Usually this is due to keyboard and computer configuration, when users prefer to use Penglish( or pinglish ) rather than persian.
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StokeNewingtonHistory.com says:

I see. Thank you very much. That was my initial assumption.
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Dashesy says:

I think it all started with chatting long time ago when a universal font like UTF was not known. In addition, it is sometimes easier to write in Pinglish (or some say Fingilish) since most of the users are fast in typing in English.
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StokeNewingtonHistory.com says:

Interesting points. Thanks a lot.
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◊ Pearl ◊ says:

To add above the font used in UTF format is arabic. Some people don't like the shape of characters like me. not familiar. but no other way, we must use it till they add a persian font to the format.
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StokeNewingtonHistory.com says:

So is there no Persian version at all? is Persian text written on Flickr written in Arabic characters?
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Adventuralist says:

Hi guys.
As I know (and simply I am not a professional in computer sciences or engineering) UTFs are universal, and they support Persian characters such as گ،چ،پ and ژ that they are absent in Arabic format. Tell me if I am wrong.
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◊ Pearl ◊ says:

I mentioned "the shape" of characters. the characters are the same but we write them in a different shape even the figures are way different. if u compare an arabic font with a persian font, you'll see the persian one is much simple than the arabic one. The most famous persian font is Nazanin. u can find it.

@ Adventuaralist : ur right but wrong too! the font is arabic, they just added four persian characters and that's it. If they add Nazanin or Mitra fonts to the format then we can say they support persian properly.

Moreover this script is persian originally. i'm not pleases with the fact that people think it's arabic.
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Hamed Saber is a group administrator Hamed Saber says:

@◊ Pearl ◊: What you are speaking about is called glyph. You are right, default fonts for almost all websites is "Roman" or "Helvetica". (In MS-Windows they are known as "Times New Roman" and "Arial"). Persian/Arabic parts of these font tables are filled with a default Egyptian serif glyph (I can't remember the name).
But you can change the default font for your web browser. You may choose Tahoma which has rounded glyphs, and is designed for Persian/Urdu writings instead.
There is a great Persian font for web browsing named "Nesf", you can search and download it for free. It uses different type of glyphs for "Screen" and "Printing", so you can use it for both raw text and title types. It supports both TT curved mapped and OSc bit mapped systems.

Unfortunately I don't know who's the creator of Nesf
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◊ Pearl ◊ says:

thanks Hamed. installed it and made it the default font of browser but still nothing has changed. here's a link for others to download the font : www.multikulti.org.uk/help/fa/nesf-font.ttf
also the creator is Mehran Mehr.

i think the problem is u can only change the font type for pages that do not specify one.
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Hamed Saber is a group administrator Hamed Saber says:

Eh! Mehran is one of my best friends! How I didn't know that he's the creator? :">

BTW, you can substitute every font in your browser. Google the web for tricks.
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