second-hand income [deleted] 1:10pm, 2 January 2011
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Elamcelt 6 years ago
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Elamcelt 6 years ago
Anyone tried panning?
How long should the exposure be for?
Sheryl Salisbury 6 years ago
@ Elamcelt I've been wanting to try panning as well. Let us know if you find the answer to your question, I'm curious as well.
fawlty128 PRO 6 years ago
I've tried panning in the past without much success. I had one shot that although wasn't really good, wasn't a complete piece of crap like the rest. Shot at 1/40 sec. I've posted it below.
From what I understand(and believe me, it's not much) the slower the speed of the subject, the slower the shutter speed. The distance of the subject also comes into play. The further away the subject is, the slower the shutter speed. Everything depend on how fast you need to move the camera in order to keep up with the subject. 1/30 sec is probably a good starting point, slower than that handheld and you probably aren't going to get a very sharp image.
I promised myself that I would make a serious effort this year to try to get the hang of panning. It takes lots of patience (something I often lack) and can be very frustrating, but the reward is definitely worth the time and aggravation.

Dave Angood PRO Posted 6 years ago. Edited by Dave Angood (member) 6 years ago
I do keep plugging him, but Jeff takes a mean Pan shot. I learnt from his exif data and his skills. Check out his last few train shots.

Here is one I recently took at Snetterton race track. My zoom had packed up so I had to revert to the 60mm, which is not ideal from the distance I was. The light was poor but I still went for the same shutter speed as in sunshine. To get the slower shutter speed in sunshine you have to raise the f/ stop until the shutter is the speed you want.
Chase him...

You want a shutter speed of 1/50 or 1/60 to get the best handheld results. You need your camera on "al Servo" ( not sure what it is called on Nikons).
Focus on your moving subject by pressing the button half way down, and keep it pressed half way down. This means as your subject moves, the camera will keep adjusting the focus to keep your subject sharp. When you are ready press the shutter button, but you must keep panning until after the shot has completely finished, otherwise you run the risk of blurring your subject. This is the main reason why people struggle with panning, by pulling up from the shot too soon.
Once again practice makes perfect. Heres a train shot I also took recently. Not quite in Jeffs league as I blew the sky but gives you an idea.
On the move
This is like any other photgraphy technique, prctice practice practice, but it is fun.
Dave Angood PRO 6 years ago
High Speed Photography

I have studdied the high speed photography shots for some time, and it may suprise you that it has nothing to do with fast shutter speed at all. The very best way to shoot this, if I were doing it , would be to shoot it in almost darkness (the darker the better. I am normally in a pitch balck room). Then I would have the camera on a tripod and the shutter speed set to the bulb setting to keep it open as long as I needed. The only light source that is needed is a flash gun set to its lowest power. Most people think it should need more flash light, but that will not freeze the granuels.
It takes just a very short burst of light, with a longer shutter speed for the exposure to freeze them all in motion.
This I know will sound very strange but believe me it is not a fast shutter you need.

Here is a link to a site that may help you along the way.
second-hand income [deleted] 6 years ago
I found this method excellent Dave, I'm still practicing my technique to get the image I'm looking for.
Just one question, how would you do this if you wanted a white background instead of black?
Dave Angood PRO Posted 6 years ago. Edited by Dave Angood (member) 6 years ago
Not tried a white background yet Les. I always feel you need a good contrasting colour in the background to compliment the subject you are shooting. For instance if it is white sugar as in Tinkerellas shot you will need a dark colour.
If you are dropping fruit in liquid, then you can try different colours for the liquid with the colours of your fruit, but the back ground has to compliment it.
Any white background needs enough light to show it as white. Not enough light will show it as grey or blue.
Elamcelt 6 years ago
Anyone use Lightroom?
I would like to know about using presets.
Dave Angood PRO Posted 6 years ago. Edited by Dave Angood (member) 6 years ago
Hi Elamcelt.
I have played with lightroom a lot, and as you can seen it comes with many presets. Some people swear by lightroom, but there is no preset in there that you could not better from in camera shooting and using light from any scene.
If you need to use them then it is a play about with them and see what they do. I found they always over cook shots, for me I like to get the camera to keep it as seen.
Pete Glogiewicz PRO Posted 6 years ago. Edited by Pete Glogiewicz (member) 6 years ago
On the subject of motion blur, here is a shot I took recently to have a go. Im a little dissapointed that She's not pin sharp, but as mentioned above it was tricky keeping up with her speed.
'Rapid' 5th April 2012 #124
Dave Angood PRO 6 years ago
Not easy Pete and it does take some practice. With animals you have to try and get down to their level as you do with small children. This will also make it easier for you with the pan control. Cant tell from the exif data if you had it on auto "al servo" focusing.
Pete Glogiewicz PRO 6 years ago
Yes mate, I was in full maual, cranked the f/stop up to reduce shutter speed and was set to Ai servo fro continual focus, trouble is this little lady can chase down a rabbit with it having a 20m head start so she's really fast, and I was only 6 feet away from her so keeping up was a big problem.
Dave Angood PRO 6 years ago
I know how fast they This is one of those practice techniques. The faster they are the more spot on the technique has to be.
Elamcelt 6 years ago
Well I think for a first attempt it's very good!
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