fallfaceforward 2:25pm, 14 October 2008
When: tentativly Saturday, November 15th
Where: the Depot
What: there's been interest from a few to learn how to process film and develop your own pictures. The Depot has a darkroom available for use at the cost of $10 for a day.

So i'm starting up a poll to see who'd be interested in going- max of 10 people. If interested please respond here, but also send me a private flickr mail with your full name, address, and phone number. I need this information as the director of the art dept. requires it to make up passes that we need to flash at the front desk staff so they'll let us in.

I'm thinking we'll set this up for a Saturday perhaps the first weekend in November. That should give everyone enough time to get out and shoot some film. BLACK & WHITE ONLY!

Also Jason has a thread going-"who wants to play dark room soon"- and is inviting people over to his place for his own private developing showings.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
I'm in. Any hands, feet or fingers that I can lend for instructional purposes I would be glad to... but I think HBR will be there, too.

So that would be Saturday Nov. 1st? Morning or afternoon?

Jason
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
Oh, Im in also!
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mb_wen 10 years ago
Oooooh... very interested.
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Karl W. 10 years ago
I think I'm in, "my film might be from a disposable camera though" lol
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
Karl, I have a spare 35mm canon rebel if you want to borrow. That way you can use all of your canon stuff.
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
jason- no, not Nov. 1st. i'll be sleeping that day after enjoying my Halloween. oh, crap and i'm busy the 8th.... um..... okay i'm thinking Nov. 15th. that's the tentative date for now.
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Karl W. 10 years ago
I personally vote for the 1st, maybe in the afternoon? I don't think I could make it if it's the 15th.

Sharksurfer "can't remember your real name, I always remember the screen names" well if the date isn't the 15th I'd be interested in borrowing it.
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
no reason we cant do this on more than one date. I say we do it the first and the 15th, just so everyone that wants to go can.

Karl, (im justin btw haha) let me know where and when and I will get it to you asap.
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Plus, everyone will get their WF Checks and have money for paper!
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N. Lindstrom Photo Posted 10 years ago. Edited by N. Lindstrom Photo (admin) 10 years ago
Karl, if you are interested in using a medium format Brownie box style or Duaflex I have around 20 available for borrowing.

Heck I could probably even lend my Holga. Maybe. If I were to be sweet talked......

Edit- If anyone wants to borrow....
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
I am in for helping out.

I can bring some exposed rolls for practicing loading the reels before people attempt this for real in the dark.
tina_p0608 10 years ago
Im in!!!
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Shit, I am booked out every weekend in November.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
I think I'm in, "my film might be from a disposable camera though" lol

It is very important that you shoot a true black and white film or Ilford XP2 for this event. Printing on color paper is not for beginners, and while you CAN print color film onto B&W paper, it makes very unpredictable, low contrast prints.

Here are some films that are good for darkroom printing.

Kodak:
Plus-X 125
Tri-X 400
T-Max 100
T-Max 400
T-Max 3200

Ilford:
FP4 (ISO 125)
HP5+ (ISO 400)
Delta 100
Delta 400
Delta 3200

Also, Ilford has a film called XP-2 which is a chromogenic film -- it uses dyes like color film instead of silver deposits like traditional B&W film -- and unlike traditional B&W films, it can be processed in a mini-lab. XP-2 is designed to be usable in a B&W darkroom, so if you don't want to develop your film by hand, this will work, too.

Jason
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Any B/W film that says "process C-41" is NOT going to work down there, but you can get your negs developed at a lab and bring them down for printing.
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lcarlson 10 years ago
I'm down! I have a few rolls to get developed... some 120 and some 35mm actually. I'd love to do it with a little help.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"Any B/W film that says "process C-41" is NOT going to work down there, but you can get your negs developed at a lab and bring them down for printing."

Brian,

I've never tried it in the darkroom, but Kodak Chromogenic B&W films have an orange mask which is supposed to be pretty difficult for traditional printing. Ilford skips the orange mask.

Jason
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maxcaven 10 years ago
Karl I have a rebel kt or some kind of film camrea that says rebel and looks like a rebel I'll sell ya for like 40 bucks, I have no use for it. It's got a 24-90.
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Jason, I was just telling people not to buy a C-41 b/w film and try to bring it down for developing in the Depot. I can't imagine that any negative film will be "unprintable" because of the type of film, though you may have to deal with flat prints because of the inherent color of the film creating its own contrast filter. The only downfall might be a longer exposure time, but that can't be more than a few seconds difference (depending on the density of the neg.)
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Brian,

My experience with printing C-41 films (actually developed with B&W developer) has been extremely long printing times -- in the range of several minutes -- and fairly flat prints. I just want everyone to get the most out of the darkroom experience.

I think that Brian is politely reminding me that I am on a technical digression. So basically, the message should be:

CAVEAT EMPTOR:
Avoid films that say, "Process C-41" on the side. The safest practice would be to buy your film @ First Photo and tell them what you're using it for. They'll know what you need.

:-)

Jason
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Karl W. 10 years ago
Point taken on the bw film.

um.. I might be interested in the rebel? What is the model of it?
brandonransom 10 years ago
I've got a Rebel 2000 you could borrow iffen you want.
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
Let's keep this thread for November 15th, and for those of you who want to try and go on Nov. 1st- start a new thread, so we can stay more organized.

regardless of which date you go, i'll still need private flickr messages with each person's name, address, and phone so i can get those passes made up.
Cindi Carlson 10 years ago
Ok, well, I know how to develop b/w film, and I have my own developing tank, BUT. I have color film that I haven't developed yet. Would anyone be able to teach me how to develop it if I can come??
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Developing color film isn't a simple (or cheap) matter. I do my own color, and while I can roughly match the cost of a minilab, the up front cost was around $80 and I doubt that I have even the quality control levels of Walgreens.

One of these days I will do a demonstration on how to develop color films for those who are interested, but unless you have a specific interest in color process (like me and my alternative color stuff) you are probably better off just dropping by First Photo or even Target.

Jason
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
buswell- the depot is only set up for black and white processing so we won't be doing anything with color.
Cindi Carlson 10 years ago
ok, thanks!
fallfaceforward Posted 10 years ago. Edited by fallfaceforward (member) 10 years ago
bump! Ack!!! This is already this upcoming Saturday!!!!!! Is anyone still interested in doing this? I figure we'll start at 10am and people can stay as long as they'd like. Brian, Jason, Matt, Tina, Justin- you all gave me your info. Are any of you still interested?

Anyone else? If so, please flickr mail me your full name, address, and phone number as the Depot requires it before you can use their darkroom.

Natalie
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Natalie,

What supplies do we need to bring? Just our paper and developed film?

Jason
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
and $10 to get in.
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