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Sweetlake 7:04pm, 7 December 2007
I've was happy with PS elements 4 for editing and iPhoto as an organizer until I tried out Lightroom for a month. I was hooked! Now I'm wondering if I should ask for CS3 along with lightroom for Christmas, the head elf at home wants to know. She also want to know if CS3 is too complicated for the simple stuff that she does now.

I'm hoping for a good turn out tonight! Ted
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duluthiscool 11 years ago
Well... as I recall, you folks use a MAC? If you were PC based... I was under the impression that you needed CS3 for Vista. So, if that is true (rumor rumor), then not only is it worth it... but more or less required.

Talk with Granitoid... he has signed up for a photoshop class at WITC for ~200... which then allows him academic discount on the creative suite for ~300...
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Randall Cottrell 11 years ago
yes the acedemic discount is awesome. i haven't purchased cs3 yet, but it is on my to-get-list...especially at half the regualr price

if you do have a pc [but if i remember from a dpg meeting you're a mac guy (wish i was personally)] you can run any photoshop. my friend has elements on his and i tried a trial of cs2 on my laptop

i've never tried it, but i've heard wonderful things about lightroom
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Sweetlake 11 years ago
Yes, lightroom rocks. I'm a mac guy and elements works great - I'm just wondering if CS3 will help make my life any better.

I have 4 students in the house and can get CS3 and light room for $380 or just light room for 100.

Rich, is Vista not backward compatible for all windows programs? (ie new software for everything?). I have nothing against windows but that would just blow.
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Not true CS3 in vista... Kyle has vista and she's running CS2 fine.
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Randall Cottrell 11 years ago
cs3 and lightroom = worth it

it will make your life better
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Akatzmarkphotography 11 years ago
yes!
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duluthiscool 11 years ago
there are still many driver related issues with vista... the hardware vendors have been slow to move... but then, there really doesn't appear to be a huge compelling reason...
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I love CS3 I have lightroom also, but feel that CS3's ACR raw editor does everything I need. I would get CS3 and get lightroom laer if you feel you need it. unless you want it for cataloging, but you could just as well use bridge.
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Karl W. 11 years ago
what is the plus side to having lightroom?
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manley.josh Posted 11 years ago. Edited by manley.josh (admin) 11 years ago
I use CS3 and love it. if you are familiar with other adobe products, the transition to CS3 should be fairly simple for the basic functions. if you have no Photoshop experience...take a class or buy a book. there are sooo many possibilities that it will make your head spin. I have seen books at Barnes and Nobel for around $30-40 that get pretty in depth, but at the same time show you short cuts for some fun editing. As for the other softwares, i haven't used much other than Photoshop. I took a class a couple years back at St. Scholastica on digital editing with Photoshop 6, I've been hooked ever since.

I too am curious, what is Lightroom?
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Hambone Lewinski 11 years ago
Let me be the devil's advocate here...

What do you plan to do with CS3 that you can't do with PS elements? Does elements have a curves tool? Does it have clone/heal tools? Do you have control over selections and layers? I might be a bit stodgy, but those things are all I ever really use.

I use a piece of free, open source software called The Gimp. The Gimp is an excellent piece of software, but nowhere near as robust as CS3. But it is plenty to do what I need to do.

Now Lightroom, that looks pretty tight. I might actually invest in that one if I ever upgrade my laptop.

Jason
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Photoshop vs. Lightroom

photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00MbEg

If you can edit RAW images in Elements, I am not sure it would be worth upgrading.
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edgeways 11 years ago
I have not used lightroom, so can not speak to it, but I recently upgraded to CS3 from CS and the difference is pretty striking. I generally skip an upgrade or two before I update, (went from Win 98 to XP and am skipping Vista, for example) as I don't fully buy into NEW PRODUCT NEW PRODUCT YOU MUST HAVE IT!!!! (don't even ask me what I think of the car industry) So, perhaps you can find someone that has CS3 on their laptop, or something, so You can poke around with it and see if it is different enough in good ways to warrant the throwdown of $.

You can do simple things in CS3 easy enough.
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Randall Cottrell 11 years ago
a friend of mine has elements 6? i believe? the new one anyway...and the setup w/ the layer masks is very strange as compared to cs2 and cs3, or at least that is what i remember. i work in layers and masks a TON and i simply did not like the way elements handled it.

as for now i use gimp too. as far as free software goes you really can't beat it. there are a few things that i feel held back by w/ gimp, ex: hdr stuff and a few filters that gimp doesn't have like the high pass fliter as another example.

when i get cs3 [w/ or w/out] lightroom i will actually start to shoot in raw. i've heard marvelous things
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peteSwede PRO 11 years ago
i am photoshop tarded, but i use lightroom alot since it allows a lot of manipulation of jpegs as well. I don't like shooting in RAW as for some reason i can't see the pics in thumbnail in my folders, so it takes forever to know what pic i am gonna work with.

lightroom seems more user friendly for the touching up of photos, but afaik, doesn't have the creative functionality of ps.
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Sweetlake 11 years ago
Jason, Elements (4 on Mac, at least) lets you do pretty much every thing (layers, clone, etc) s full PS. No curves and some things are a little messier.


Shawn, Light room is mostly for entire picture manipulation like white balance, exposure, sharpening, 'vibrance' etc. It works quickly and easily. And manages, tags and organizes pictures. It can do batches, too PS is more for changing parts of the picture (clone stamp, adjjustment layers, etc)

Anyways, the elf took care of everything while I was away. Thanks for the input everyone!
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Akatzmarkphotography 11 years ago
i like cs3 mostly for actions.. Since i process 100-200 images a week and need something consistant. Actions are my cure all. Call me lazy, but i wont be late for dinner;)
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HBRstudios 11 years ago
I use Lightroom as mainly a RAW converter, but now use it as my main way to organize images as well. It does allow me to quickly and efficiently convert and export all my RAW files when needed, plus edit in Photoshop (CS2) easily as well. There are always quirks, but I am getting used to them and am able to work around them now that I have more experience with it.
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