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cobalt123 ADMIN July 27, 2015
Moderation is enabled for all photos to be approved by an admin. Dedicated to MACRO photography. This group is actively monitored and non-macro photos (and possibly the poster) will be removed. MOST images of whole flowers, pet and human faces are NOT macro. Read guidelines and "Does my photo qualify for this group".

Group Description

 Closer and Closer Macro Photography. Get yours at flagrantdisregard.com/flickr


Any picture that is a close MACRO.

Images must be true MACRO or at least VERY close-up images with the majority of the frame showing the focal point in macro. Please note that using a macro lens or the macro mode on a camera may NOT produce an image that is a true macro.

Close-Up Photography is where the reproduction ratio is from 1:10 to 1:1 - ie from 1/10th life-size to life-size.

Macro Photography is where the reproduction ratio is from 1:1 to 10:1 - ie from life-size to ten times life-size.

And, for the record, Micro Photography is where the reproduction ratio is greater that 10:1 - ie greater than 10x life-size.

NEW!!! Let's get Closer! This is a dedicated macro photography group and the intention is for you to get closer and closer to your subject. What makes a true macro? Avoiding the technicalities across sensor and film sizes, for the purposes of this group, "macro" is something that is around 35mm (~1.38in) or smaller that fills the frame.

We recommend this article in wikipedia for a detailed description of "true macro". Here is one comment: "the lens is typically optimized to focus sharply on a small area approaching the size of the film frame." Thus, showing a whole animal or most of an animal/person/object/flower may not be a true macro but an image shot with a macro lens.


Please limit your uploads to 3 per day. Flooding the group pool is frowned upon and will result in photos being deleted. Threads on general topics that are not self-promotion are welcome. If there is any question as to whether or not your suggested topic is appropriate for the discussion threads, please contact one of the Admins.

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Please add this great macro image to
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Closer and Closer Macro Photography


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Please take a look at our blog, which highlights our CCMP Theme and Challenge winners - here:

When CCMP Theme or Challenge threads highlight a contest on a partiular theme, please read the details about posting size and tags within a contest thread.

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Questions about "macro" and "close" images?

Here are some comments from the Admins here:

We all begin our photographic journeys somewhere. The learning of the right names for things and their definitions is where the journey often begins. It's true that the definition of macro has become fuzzy because of camera and lens marketing. Purists will always chafe about this and I can't blame them; there are specific and technical definitions for what constitutes a macro photograph. Such technical rigor can be a good thing and rewarding for the knowledgeable and wizardly. Unfortunately, like the knowing of most arcane knowledge, it can also sometimes be a purely existential joy.

With so many members, so many images submitted daily and so few admins, it would be difficult if not impossible to enforce a true, macro only rule. We also have members at all stages of photographic interest and experience in our group. Since we want C&CMP to be a gallery where everyone's best work can be seen and enjoyed, we try to err on the side of inclusiveness when cleaning out the pool.

One of our Adminis, Cobalt suggests that as long as the largest size uploaded shows the focus area larger than the subject is a good one to keep in mind. Other Admins and moderators may have slightly different interpretations or go by different rules of course.

If you are hesitating about whether to include your images in the pool, or you have a question about a particular image, please ask one of the admins or moderators and we'll be happy to chat it over with you."

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In order to add a photo to a thread such as this:
- open the page with the photo on it
- above the photo, click 'Share'
- a dropdown opens, click 'Grab the HTML/BBCode'
- make sure the size is set to 'Medium 500'
- right click the text in the box and choose 'Copy'
- paste that text within your post to the thread
- if your photo is set to 'Private' you may get a warning that you are about to share it publicly. Assert that you want to do that, or else don't try to post it publicly, :-)


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Group Rules

Welcome to the Closer And Closer Macro Photography group! This group and photo pool is for MACRO photos: photos added to the pool should be -- Closer! and Closer! which means Really Gosh Darn Close!

Because we are dedicated to MACRO photography. MOST images of whole flowers, pet, human, animal, and even bird faces are NOT usually considered to be macro. Read the guidelines and this discussion.

By joining the Closer and Closer Macro Photography! group, you understand that you are bound by our rules of conduct. Without warning at the administrator's discretion, your membership may be removed for posting non-MACRO images to the pool -- generally for a small number of times, but repeatedly.

You may be banned from the group for
- continually posting non-MACRO images to the pool
- human portraits, including nudes (tasteful as they may be...)
- animal portraits
- for advertising products
- for advertising non-relevant websites or other groups or forums
- for advocating non-MACRO related items, points of view, etc.
- for poor behavior, especially when directed at
-- other group members
-- mods or admins

If you do not know what a macro photo is, or are confused if your photo(s) qualify as macro for this group, please post your photo and question to this thread: "Does my photo qualify for this group"

Here is a small list of items that are removed from the pool frequently because they are NOT MACRO PHOTOGRAPHS!
- whole flowers
- faces (pets, humans, sculptures, paintings)
- hands, feet, shoes, gloves, other clothing
- dogs, cats, horses, elephants, birds
- landscapes, the moon!, trees, branches
- spider webs (except small, macro sections!)
- grass, leaves, windows, roses - the most common image!
- cars, car parts, motorcycles, moto-parts, bicycles, bike parts
- whole toys, whole dolls, with few exceptions
- parts of faces; people eyes are ok as long as they fill the frame - but ONLY the eye

General guide: what is a MACRO image depends on a number of factors. Combined, our administrators have a lot of time and experience creating and viewing MACRO images. We need to have a common understanding of what the definition of what constitutes a MACRO image. MACRO photos are based on several factors.

We accept that we cannot look at the EXIF of every shot taken and that a standard basis for judging size must be made. While macro photos can be made using a scanner, large or medium format cameras (both film and digital), these are extremely rare. Therefore, we have set as a standard the 35mm film (36x22mm) size as the basis for comparisons. Therefore, a MACRO image is
- a photo of a subject that shows an area of the subject equal to than the area of the sensor or film recording the image, then the image is considered to be a 1:1 macro image.
-- by our definition above, if an object is 36mm (1.4in) across AND fills the frame, you are at 1:1 macro
- the image is no more than 2 times the sensor or film size (to 72mm, or 2.8in) that recorded the original image, is considered to be a 1:2 closeup image, and is the limit of what is considered to be acceptable.
-- Most of the time, it is hard to measure this in a photo, but we do our best to apply discretion here. Note, that large bugs/insects, like the preying mantis, cicadas and swallowtail butterflies are actually larger than this, so these tend to be removed from the pool
- the final image shows a level of focus, quality and detail sufficient to appreciate the subject in a MACRO view.
-- This means that details become visible that were previously hidden from view. This is the magic of macro, and the 'why' of what keeps many of us photographing at this level

Stated another way:

If you use a Full Frame camera, your sensor (or film) is approximately 36mmx24mm. The maximum amount of the subject that will fill the frame is 36mm across. How simple is that? That would make a 1:1 or 'Life Size' image. If you fill the frame with 18mm of subject area (and a significant portion of the subject is in focus) you have a 2:1 MACRO image, or 'Twice Life Size'. The magnification is 2x or two times life size.

We accept MACRO images in the pool that are between 1:1 and 5:1. Images with more than 5x life size magnification are also accepted, even though we are not a PHOTO-MICROGRAPHY group.

If you use a Point and Shoot camera, just using the 'MACRO' setting does not ensure that resulting images will be MACRO images according to the guidelines outlined above. Just as often, this setting on a camera or sometimes on an interchangeable lens, may be more a matter of camera marketing. It may actually make MACRO images at one end of its scale, but only 'CLOSEUP' images at the other end. Typically these cameras have sensors the size of your little fingernail or smaller. You can find the actual size in the manual, on the maker's website or maybe on Wikipedia.

Thank you for taking the time to read through all of this, but it is important to understand how this group is moderated.

Additional Info

  • Members can post 3 things to the pool each day.
  • Accepted content types: Photos, Videos, Images
  • Accepted safety levels: Safe
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