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error 20 on 60d
john harold
2:32am, 24 February 2011
the error appears when i used nissin di622 flash and used manaul mode.does anyone also encountered the same problem on you 60d?
Hi,
This is reminiscent of the new PowerShot G12 compacts being unable to function properly when E-TTL compatible, third party flash and flash triggers are mounted on the hotshoe only on Manual mode.
In the G12's case, pressing the shutter halfway to lock the focus would cause the LCD to completely black out. It doesn't happen on non-Manual exposure modes or if genuine Speedlites are used. That said, the older G-series compacts never had this quirk with third party flash units or wireless triggers on Manual mode.
If you are able to use the Di622 successfully under the following conditions:
- Any exposure mode except for Manual
- Manual mode on an older EOS body predating the 60D, e.g. 50D, 450D, 5D Mk II, etc,
that confirms my suspicion that Canon now deliberately discourages the use of non-Speedlite accessories mounted on the hotshoe with its latest cameras.
I don't have access to a non-Speedlite flash (I own only Canon Speedlites) therefore I'm unable to duplicate your problem.
Maybe others with third party strobes may be able to chime in.
This is reminiscent of the new PowerShot G12 compacts being unable to function properly when E-TTL compatible, third party flash and flash triggers are mounted on the hotshoe only on Manual mode.
In the G12's case, pressing the shutter halfway to lock the focus would cause the LCD to completely black out. It doesn't happen on non-Manual exposure modes or if genuine Speedlites are used. That said, the older G-series compacts never had this quirk with third party flash units or wireless triggers on Manual mode.
If you are able to use the Di622 successfully under the following conditions:
- Any exposure mode except for Manual
- Manual mode on an older EOS body predating the 60D, e.g. 50D, 450D, 5D Mk II, etc,
that confirms my suspicion that Canon now deliberately discourages the use of non-Speedlite accessories mounted on the hotshoe with its latest cameras.
I don't have access to a non-Speedlite flash (I own only Canon Speedlites) therefore I'm unable to duplicate your problem.
Maybe others with third party strobes may be able to chime in.
Dim-SumGuy
13 years ago
Interresting, I use the Vivitar DF340Z on my 60D sucessfully with E-TTLII, the only thing that it doesn't do (anymore) is the rear curtain.... guess I got lucky
But I got my trusty old 420EZ for that (rear curtain) :)
But I got my trusty old 420EZ for that (rear curtain) :)
S M Nabeel
13 years ago
Yes i have encountered the same problem with my canon 60d and nissin Di622 on a manual mode i took my camera to jacobs and returned it
they testd the Nissin Di 622 on 3 brand new canon 60D's and all gave an error 20
there are only two solutions to this thing
Either replace your flash and get a ETTL 2 flash like Metz or Canon 580 Ex II
or return ur camera
i returned my camera as that thing put me off Canon 60d
they testd the Nissin Di 622 on 3 brand new canon 60D's and all gave an error 20
there are only two solutions to this thing
Either replace your flash and get a ETTL 2 flash like Metz or Canon 580 Ex II
or return ur camera
i returned my camera as that thing put me off Canon 60d
Carlos Pérez..
13 years ago
aliumar_wd
13 years ago
hi jhon i have same problem u, when i used nissin di622 at manual mode (non ttl) then appears err 02 on my screen,
some body my help us...
regard
ali
some body my help us...
regard
ali
aliumar_wd: There's nothing you can do unless the Nissin company that makes the flash finds a way to circumvent the Err 02 problem. They'd probably have to update the firmware, which might mean expensive recalls.
Either use the Nissin's non-manual mode or buy a 100% E-TTL II compatible flash (with Canon Speedlites, total compatibility is always assured). When it comes to flash units, I prefer to stick to the same brand as the dSLR (in this case, Canon).
BTW, my camera dealer (in Malaysia) recently told me that Canon Malaysia has finally reduced the prices of the Speedlite 430EX II and 580EX II. I hope this is also a global trend because I think Canon finally saw genuine competition from the likes of the Nissin Di866 and Di622.
Now that we're seeing Canon strategically making their new and future cameras less compatible with 3rd party flashes, I wouldn't be the least surprised if the new EOS 600D/Rebel T3i also behaves like the 60D.
It also struck me odd as to why anyone would return the EOS 60D just because it's not fully compatible with 3rd party flashes. That would be like returning a car to the dealership just because you can't use aftermarket HID bulbs in the headlamps. :)
Either use the Nissin's non-manual mode or buy a 100% E-TTL II compatible flash (with Canon Speedlites, total compatibility is always assured). When it comes to flash units, I prefer to stick to the same brand as the dSLR (in this case, Canon).
BTW, my camera dealer (in Malaysia) recently told me that Canon Malaysia has finally reduced the prices of the Speedlite 430EX II and 580EX II. I hope this is also a global trend because I think Canon finally saw genuine competition from the likes of the Nissin Di866 and Di622.
Now that we're seeing Canon strategically making their new and future cameras less compatible with 3rd party flashes, I wouldn't be the least surprised if the new EOS 600D/Rebel T3i also behaves like the 60D.
It also struck me odd as to why anyone would return the EOS 60D just because it's not fully compatible with 3rd party flashes. That would be like returning a car to the dealership just because you can't use aftermarket HID bulbs in the headlamps. :)
lebrilla
Posted 12 years ago. Edited by lebrilla (member) 12 years ago
I had the error 20 on my Canon 60D about 3 weeks ago. the camera was only 4 months old and hadn't been used that much. It has also been kept in perfect condition.
I got the error 20 which is mechanical failure. Canon had me send it in. I paid $50 for shipping. Thankfully they covered it under the manf warranty. I got it back 3 days ago. After about 100 shots I got the same error message 10 minutes ago and I AM SO ANGRY. I'm not paying for shipping this time so help me god.
I'm going to call Canon monday and ask them to replace my camera. The worst part is I have it up for sale on amazon because I'm selling it and getting a 5d. Canon better take care of this or I'll switch to nikon and burn them on the forums. Freaking bullcrap.
Sorry just very angry. This effects my livelihood.
I got the error 20 which is mechanical failure. Canon had me send it in. I paid $50 for shipping. Thankfully they covered it under the manf warranty. I got it back 3 days ago. After about 100 shots I got the same error message 10 minutes ago and I AM SO ANGRY. I'm not paying for shipping this time so help me god.
I'm going to call Canon monday and ask them to replace my camera. The worst part is I have it up for sale on amazon because I'm selling it and getting a 5d. Canon better take care of this or I'll switch to nikon and burn them on the forums. Freaking bullcrap.
Sorry just very angry. This effects my livelihood.
gavinque
12 years ago
Hello all.
I'm using a Vivatar DF-383-CAN for my 60D and have the same exact problem. I don't think I fixed anything but this is how I deal with the issue and am able to use my flash in manual on camera hotshoe.
Seems simple but before hitting the shutter button take a meter reading before. Wait for the exposer lock to complete then press the shutter. I know this may not be the best way of doing it and I may not be getting correct exposure the first time but with a change here or there I'm able to avoid the dreaded "Err 20" from locking up the camera.
I'm in a bit of a rush at the moment if anyone want me to detail my experience let me know.
So far this method is working for me. Hope this helps.
I'm using a Vivatar DF-383-CAN for my 60D and have the same exact problem. I don't think I fixed anything but this is how I deal with the issue and am able to use my flash in manual on camera hotshoe.
Seems simple but before hitting the shutter button take a meter reading before. Wait for the exposer lock to complete then press the shutter. I know this may not be the best way of doing it and I may not be getting correct exposure the first time but with a change here or there I'm able to avoid the dreaded "Err 20" from locking up the camera.
I'm in a bit of a rush at the moment if anyone want me to detail my experience let me know.
So far this method is working for me. Hope this helps.
gomezla
12 years ago
I originally posted about how I did not have this problem, but I ran into it 4 times over the weekend.
I had to remove the batteries from the flash before I was able to continue taking pictures. I will now be upgrading to a canon flash... Great flash when it works, but very frustrating.
Anyone want to buy a Nissin di622 MII j/k... My local photo store said they would take it back and put what I spent toward a canon 580.
:)
I had to remove the batteries from the flash before I was able to continue taking pictures. I will now be upgrading to a canon flash... Great flash when it works, but very frustrating.
Anyone want to buy a Nissin di622 MII j/k... My local photo store said they would take it back and put what I spent toward a canon 580.
:)
In Memoriam Laveen Photography (aka cyclist451)
12 years ago
I just discovered the Error 20. I am using a Vivtar 383 and it does the same thing. I have lent out my T1i, but I am fairly sure that I did not have that problem with that camera.