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Classic 5D - what flash and wireless trigger works with my camera?

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mippy2008 says:

H there, I'm looking to buy the 580ex ii flash, to use off camera, triggered wirelessly. What flash triggers work best with this flash and my class 5D? Cheers
4:33AM, 7 October 2009 PDT (permalink)

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f8125 says:

Pocket Wizzard is the most reliable (and the most expensive).

The 580 flash can trigger 430 flashes acting as the master - the 430 as the slave - so buying a 430 ex flash may be a cheaper solution ironically, even though, you won't be using the 580 flash as the off camera flash as it has to be attached to your 5D.


I use poverty wizzards PT04 with a Vivtar 285HV but it does not work on my dedicated ETTL Sigma 500DG, so I can't recommend the PT04 type, even though it's cheap. Works best with single pin flashes.
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MisterSqueeze - (tyson robichaud) says:

If you are just going to use for off camera light, I'd suggest at least considering saving a ton and going with a cheaper Vivitar flash, or even a 430 with a hotshoe to pc adapter and invest in either Pocket wizards or a cheaper trigger. You can get an off camera cord as well negating the need for wireless triggers, but it entirely depends on your needs. If you are going to need the flash on camera, I'd look at the 430 or the 580 for the e-ttl capabilities, but the e-ttl functions are entirely moot off camera unless you invest in e-ttl compatible wireless triggers (the new triggers from PW), or an ST-E2 Canon trigger. Another less expensive idea is cheaper studio strobes like the Alien Bee's or the like. I would say getting a 580EXII just to fire manually off camera is a waste of money, but it does provide you with other options (either on camera, or as f8125 mentioned as a master flash for other 580's or 430's).
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mippy2008 says:

Thanks, I was thinking about getting an Allen Bee strobe, I want to be able to light 3 or more people at dusk using only the one strobe. Also looking for the most portable, easy to carry..
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Sandy Phimester says:

I'd really recommend using the Alien Bee CyberSyncs, they are excellent quality and have a range of about 400ft, which is a lot more than most people need. They never fail.
108 months ago (permalink)

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Mike Tavares says:

I dont think an AB is an absolute nescessity at dusk (they're usually cool during broad daylight, to actually overpower sun)... but at this point of the day... (but well, you probably know better what you need). Think Zack Arias uses a large apollo 50 softbox, with just one accessory flash - well... isnt it the 120j?)

I guess a combination of both is also a winning combination (lets say an ab portable kit, and a canon 430ex... for times where you really need to have less power, or where it's enough - saving you the job to carry around larger kits). It does happen that one of my 400w flash is just too much!

AB+vagabond is pretty portable... but nothing like a small flash fitting your camera bag, and say another tripod bag for 1 tripod and apollo softbox (bungee'ed to this bag).

Do cybersync work with any flash? (never had these,.. sorry). If they dont, guess PW or other brands that fit with evey flash is a better option (as you would only need 2 triggers, one for cam and one for either an AB or small accessory flash).

Guess buying at least one small accessory flash isnt lost, just dont go crazy on buying 3-4 580exII..
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mdecelle says:

Pocket Wizzies work really well.
108 months ago (permalink)

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Victor van Dijk (Thanks for 5M views!) says:

I choose the Cybersync triggers to use with my 5D and 430EX flashes. They never fail and cause no banding issues in high iso shots. Some cheap ebay triggers are having interference problems with the 5D sensor and A/D components.

The Cybersyncs can be used with most (some obscure exceptions) studioflashes and speedlightes. They are a lot smaller and lighter than the PW's too.
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Sandy Phimester says:

I use the CyberSyncs with a 580EX, a 430EZ (yeah I know, it turns off every 90 seconds it isn't in use, it's a back up flash), Vivitar 283 and two Nikon SB24s. Never had a problem, and they are just so reliable.
108 months ago (permalink)

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ibm4381 says:

Depending on your application, you might look into the Canon ST-E2. The downside is it's less flexible outdoors. The upside is it's fully ETTL-II.
108 months ago (permalink)

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Black Shadow Photography says:

Various options out there.

If you need/want ETTL you can go the Canon system ST-E2 or another 580EXII (or 580EX or 550EX) to act as the master. If you want radio you can look at the Radio Popper Px system or the new Pocket Wizards (that are having all sorts of reliability issues with Canon flash units).

If you want to shoot with manual there are a heap of options the Radio Popper JrX Studio will allow you to adjust the output of remote flash units.

Then you have solutions like Pocket Wizard IIs, Elinchrom Skyports and Alien Bee Cybersyncs.

Then you go down to ebay triggers like the Cactus V4 or the new Yungnuos.
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the one and only roly says:

I use the Yongnuo RF602 triggers with my 5D and flashes (540EZ, 550EX and Bowens esprits) and they work flawlessly. They are well built, don't cause any false triggering and they can be used either on the speedlite hotshoe or via a supplied cable.

They also work as camera remotes which is nice if you want to put your camera a fair distance away from where you are.

I think their build quality is on a par with the cybersynchs or the elinchrome triggers.
108 months ago (permalink)

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mippy2008 says:

Thanks so much everyone, I'm doing as much research as I can on all of your recommendations. I'd like to not fork out for the PW II triggers and am leaning towards a 580 II to start with, with some sort of strobist kit eg honeycomb etc accessories. I'll keep you posted on my purchases. Got the flu, yep, summertime flu, so sorry for the late replies. C
108 months ago (permalink)

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pectonyte says:

I couldnt afford the PW either, hence went with the CactusV4 trigger and receiver. They are a bit fragile but have had no misfires yet (using it for the past 4 months)

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108 months ago (permalink)

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mippy2008 says:

Has anyone used a Sigma 530 DG super? I hear they are the same as Canon 580 ex ii.... but cheaper?
107 months ago (permalink)

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Scott Forman says:

I had the EF 500 DG Super for a while but never found the Sigma to give me accurate ETTL results. The 580exII is well worth the money for accurate shots and for the full head swivel.
107 months ago (permalink)

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Nicholas Benson says:

Yongnuo RF-602.

Inexpensive and reliable, I wouldn't use anything else (unless I was rich)
107 months ago (permalink)

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~ABphoto~ says:

I use 2 430EX's and pocket wizards and have no problems lighting the things I shoot, I could do with a third but apart from overpowering direct sunlight (even then it's not bad) I have no issues with this setup.

No doubt this is a fairly expensive route but considdering a 3 light remote setup is smaller and probably lighter than one studio strobe the portability far outwheighs any cost savings for me.
107 months ago (permalink)

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nsbkaizen says:

I use PW 2s, a Nikon SB-26 and a shoot thru umbrella. Inexpensive and very reliable.
107 months ago (permalink)

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mippy2008 says:

i ended up getting a 580 EX II speedlight. I'm interested in wirelessly triggering it off camera using the suggested Yongnuo RF602 triggers.

Can someone tell me if I'll have both Manual and ETTL capabilities?
104 months ago (permalink)

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Sandy Phimester says:

Typically for off camera flash.... you want manual control anyway.
104 months ago (permalink)

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mippy2008 says:

Definitely, as long as it has Manual control - its all I'm after - thanks!
104 months ago (permalink)

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Andreas Helke says:

www.flickr.com/groups/canon5d/discuss/72157623228665546/ is another current thread that demonstrated that some radio triggers cause electrical interference banding when used with a 5D.
104 months ago (permalink)

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noahsahady.com says:

I know this is a late post, but I'd recommend just getting cybersyncs. I myself went the cheap route last year buying cactus v2s triggers aka poverty wizards, and now that i have my 5d, my sync speed is less than it should be while shooting off camera...160 is the last speed i can use before getting banding. (the cheap triggers have banding issues like others have mentioned) the cybersyncs aren't too expensive, and in my opinion, a much better deal than the PW's...yea, we'd all like to have them, but really, who wants to buy slaves that expensive? so on that note, just from experience, id go the cybersync route. they work flawlessly with the 5d, and as far as i know the 580ex.
104 months ago (permalink)

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