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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

We are now including a link at the bottom of each solve which allows users to view their images inside world wide telescope. We feel that this will enhance what we currently offer by providing a richer and more interactive experience. Once in world wide telescope users can view their image overlaid on various sky surveys, as well as allow users to seamlessly move around the sky at different wavelengths such as the x-ray or visible light spectrum.

The first example is Alan Third's image of the Orion Nebula. You can view the image in World Wide Telescope if you have it installed.

Find out more about what you can do with world wide telescope.

[EDIT: Installation no longer required.]

Feedback is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
--Christopher
Originally posted at 1:49AM, 25 November 2008 PDT (permalink)
Christopher Stumm edited this topic 62 months ago.

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Flxzr says:

That's pretty cool. Strangely I'd just been thinking yesterday that it would be cool to have something like that.

It does emphasise how rubbish my photos are so far, though. If only I had me a space telescope... ;)
66 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

I uploaded 4 of my astronomical images, but haven't seen the "solve" information from astrometry.net yet.

A couple of questions: Do I have to do something to initiate the solve, or is this done automatically? If the solve is automatic, how long does it usually take to get it? Finally, is there another way to conveniently access the solve data for import to WWT, without posting all my pictures to the group (I don't want to bore everyone!)
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BTW, this is a great feature that you've created!
Thanks,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Howard,
Thanks for the feedback.

The only thing required for your image to be solved is to submit them to the group. Usually you should see your photos solved within an hour of posting to the group (longer if there's a large influx of photos).

Right now the only way to get the WWT link is by submitting to the group, however we may consider an alternative in the future. Don't worry about boring anyone. :-)

Kind Regards,
--Christopher
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

Thanks so much for the quick reply. I did get "solves" on three images back within a short time. I hope I can trouble you with a follow-up question.

Of my first three solves, the one for my first image, the Pleiades, M45, overlays perfectly on the correct spot in the sky when viewed in WWT (the result is very nice!). However, the other two solves seem to be off slightly when compared to the true sky, even though astrometry.net has clearly identified the object that the image contains.

This is especially clear with my image of M57, the Ring Nebula. The solve places it a few arc-minutes off its true position in WWT, and it is also placed at an incorrect angle relative to the true sky. Nonetheless, the solve correctly identifies that the image contains M57.

Any suggestions for how to deal with this?

Thanks,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Two of your solves look off because they're not left-handed images. Right now WWT does not support these images. Support for this should appear in future updates of WWT, but for now images where the parity is not left-handed it will look like the solve is off.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Cheers,
--Christopher
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

I flipped those images to compensate for the wrong parity, and now their solves are spot on. This is a great tool. Thanks alot!

Cheers,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

One more question!

I've successfully added my solved images to My Collections. I would like to display them in a tour that I'm creating for my group, but I can't find instructions on how to do that (what I've tried, described below, doesn't seem to work).

So my question is, what is the correct procedure for including a "solved" image from a personal collection in a WWT tour (for eventual distribution to other users)?

Here's what I've tried. I first set the start camera position at some point in the sky, I then click on an image in My Collections, WWT pans over to that part of the sky, where my image is correctly placed, and then I set the end camera position. When I play back that slide, the correct pan occurs, but the end camera position shows the image from the Digitized Sky Survey at that location, instead of the image from my collection.

Thanks again for your patience and help.

Cheers,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

Any ideas in connection with my last post? I've also tried asking this question on the WWT Support forum in the Microsoft Research Community, but have not had a response.

My apologies for bugging you with this, but I am hoping to use WWT tours for some public functions coming up soon, in connection with the International Year of Astronomy.

Thanks,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Howard,
my apologies for the delay. I missed your last post.

I believe that you can use "Set start Camera position once selecting the image" to add it to a tour, or add a new slide when the image is framed and displayed.

Let me know if this doesn't help.

Good luck,
--Christopher
Originally posted 65 months ago. (permalink)
Christopher Stumm edited this topic 65 months ago.

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

Thanks for the suggestion.

I did try this over the weekend, but the tour won't play properly when I relaunch WWT. The slideshow plays all my images correctly when I first create it, but the images do not all show when I relaunch WWT and try to play the tour again. My images are embedded in the tour thumbnails, but not in the tour itself (even stranger is that some images play, and some images don't, and the images which do show change each time I relaunch WWT).

Thanks again for any help you can give me.

Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Howard,
One thing you may want to try is to fade in the images and give it time to download. For tours it is generally recommended that the images are tiled. (I'm still trying to figure out the best way to tile the Flickr solves...)

I hope this helps,
--Christopher
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

Thanks again for your reply.

Before playing the tour I have checked that the images can be viewed by clicking on them in "My Collections". I then play the tour, but the images don't show, no matter how long I stay on the slide.

The oddest thing is that if I go back to "My Collections" and click on an image again, after the show, then it doesn't appear, even though it was available before I started the tour. As far as I can tell, the image won't show up again unless I restart WWT.

Other weirdness is that when I restart WWT and reply the tour, some slides will show, and most do not, and if I restart and reply again, the images which do show are often different.

My images are also generally quite small in size (low resolution jpg's, generally under 1/2 MB).

Would it help if I sent you an example of one of my tours?

Cheers,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

Sorry, one more bit of weirdness that may help to ID the problem:

All of the images that I did *not* include in the tour are available to view directly from My Collections after the tour is over. It is only the images that were included in the show that become unavailable afterwards.

Thanks again,
Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Sure, if you don't mind sending the tour, I can see if I see similar results.

Cheers,
--Christopher
65 months ago (permalink)

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htrott says:

Hi Christopher:

How should I get the file to you?

Howard.
65 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Check your Flickr mailbox.
--Christopher
65 months ago (permalink)

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TylerSpilker says:

How about some mac love?
No world wide telescope for macs.

Maybe google sky support?
63 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Tyler,
I know the feeling. We'll be adding KMZ support soon, which is what Google Earth's Sky view uses. :-)

Thanks for the suggestion,
--Christopher
63 months ago (permalink)

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different2une says:

the "view in world wide telescope" link does not seem to work for me ... it asks to download the "aspx" file which in my expreience means that the server is misconfigured and is "serving" the asp.net code instead of parsing it ... big security threat!!
63 months ago (permalink)

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Jonathan Fay says:

Mac Love Coming Right At You!
The link to "View in WorldWide Telescope" now will launch the new Browser based WWT Web Client that runs on Intel Mac's and Windows PC, under IE, Safari and Firefox.

Ignore the installation require parenthetical!

Enjoy!
62 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

We've removed all the "(install required)" from previous solves.
62 months ago (permalink)

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Dan Pancamo says:

Love the WWT link!

Is there a way to save the image data and view it on the WWT windows client also? It would be nice to keep track of all my images in one place like WWT!
56 months ago (permalink)

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Christopher Stumm is a group administrator Christopher Stumm says:

Dan,
thanks for the feedback. I've added your suggestion to the list of things to work on. At the moment my schedule is a bit full, so please don't expect it to appear over night.

Best,
--Christopher
Originally posted 56 months ago. (permalink)
Christopher Stumm edited this topic 56 months ago.

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mondopinguino says:

Ok, If I have understand teese are true:
* World Wide Telescope is a nice program or site, with a lot of function
* The site version allow us to load an image and watch them in the sky, in the proper position (I'm interested in the site version)
* To solve an image however you need to post on this group
Is this right? Thank you!!
53 months ago (permalink)

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Lens Cap Tony says:

* World Wide Telescope is a nice program or site, with a lot of function
Yip, although I do use Stellarium (free download - google the name)

* The site version allow us to load an image and watch them in the sky, in the proper position (I'm interested in the site version)

Not sure on this one

* To solve an image however you need to post on this group
Yip

Tony :o)
53 months ago (permalink)

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kinekt says:

any one use Starry Night?
53 months ago (permalink)

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