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!!!NVidia Users-LR2 Slow Performance Fixed Mine!!!

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MarkW Photo says:

I have finally fixed my slow performance issues with LR2! Today I did a bit of playing around with different performance settings. I'm using LR2 on a HP Pavillion 6258se Laptop. It has an 80GB Hard Drive, 2GB of Ram and the processor is a 1.8 GHz AMD Turion ™ 64 X2 Dual-Core. I had Windows Vista installed months ago but I downgraded back to XP due to Vista issues. First I opened the windows task manager so I could monitor the performance of Windows while using LR2. I noticed when using the develop tasks the performance stayed around 50%. When I used the retouch brush tools the performance still stayed around 50% but the brush tools were still slow. The more I brushed on the image the slower the brush refresh became. This told me that there must be a video performance issue and not necessarily a processor problem.

Here's how I fixed the problem.

1. I right clicked on the desktop and clicked NVidia Display/Laptop
Dispay.

2. Clicked on the Performance and Quality Settings

3. Under Active profile Click Global Driver Settings.

4. Under Global driver Setting click in the dropdown view advanced settings.

Changed the following settings:

Images setting = High Performance
Force mipmaps = None
Trilinear Optimization = Off
Anisotropic mip filter optimization = Off
Anisotropic sample optimization = Off
Triple Buffer = Off

Without even restarting LR2, the brush tools worked with no lag or delay no matter how much I brushed on the image! They were just as fast as using the sliders in the develop module!

I hope this works other Nvidia users having similar issues!!

Mark
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Purple Umbrella Photos is a group administrator Purple Umbrella Photos says:

Holy Cow! Mark, thanks a million! What a difference.
69 months ago (permalink)

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MarkW Photo says:

I knew the slow performance had to be something silly. I know my laptop is only about 1 1/2 years old but it shouldn't be that slow with new programs. Plus all my other programs work fine with no speed issues.

I'm glad to hear it worked for you as well!!

Mark
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Harry® is a group administrator Harry® says:

MarkW Photo wrote

Anisotropic mip filter optimization = Off
How on earth do you manage without your Anisotropic mip filter optimization?
69 months ago (permalink)

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MarkW Photo says:

Harry,

I don't know if it makes a difference or not when dealing with LR2 but I read this info @ www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_6.html

"Texture Filtering - Anisotropic Mip Filter Optimization: If your 'Texture Filtering - Quality' setting (see further below) is not set to High Quality, this option can be set to On or Off. If set to On, it uses a different texture filtering technique resulting in a slight drop in image quality in return for faster performance. If you want the highest quality graphics set this option to Off, otherwise set it On for best performance.

Texture Filtering - Anisotropic Sample Optimization: If your 'Texture Filtering - Quality' setting (see further below) is not set to High Quality, this option can be set to On or Off. If set to On, it uses an optimized texture sampling technique resulting in a slight drop in image quality in return for faster performance. If you want the highest quality graphics set this option to Off, otherwise set it On for best performance."
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MarkW Photo says:

I just noticed another thing since I've done this fix. "Rendering: Large Preview" is now way faster than it was before! It literally takes 1 second or less to update!
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Harry® is a group administrator Harry® says:

Mark, I was being ironic!!

I have to admit I have had no problems with LR2 - I have a Radeon graphics card, maybe that's something to do with it?
I'm very sorry that my 'quip' fell so flat!

Apologies
Harry
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MarkW Photo says:

No worries Harry. lol
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.canelson. says:

Any idea if there is a fix like this one for a Macbook and its internal GMA 950 video card?
69 months ago (permalink)

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Matthieu Milandri says:

That looks like a great tip ! I have noticed some speed issue as well but the problem is, when I right click on my desktop, I don't see anything like nVidia Display. I have nVidia control panel and nView Properties. Anything I could do ?

Thanks !

Matt
69 months ago (permalink)

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MarkW Photo says:

@ Matt, I would think similar options would be under nVidia control panel.

@.canelson, I can't say I know of a mac fix but I believe most performance issue are linked to how LR handles different video cards. I don't know what options you may be able to adjust for your mac video card but you may want to start looking/playing there. However, realize anything you change, make sure you take note of your defaults!
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extol photography says:

Holy Cow! what a difference. I have Vista and a Nvdia card that is less than a year old. I was a bout to give up on Lr2 and go back to1. There is no more lag whatsoever. Thanks!
69 months ago (permalink)

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hbdigimg says:

It may be worth noting that these settings can be applied on a application basis, so you can just disable these settings for Lightroom.

I have noticed a very slight difference with the sliders but I still get the auto white balance crash.


Mark - It might be helpful if you post your experience on the official Lightroom forum.

www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc2cf0a/
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Coushatta says:

Got some improvement, but some lag remains.

Also, I see your something of a LR2 star ! :)

See this link,

lightroom-news.com/

Thanks Mark.
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MarkW Photo says:

@ hbdigimg,

I posted this on the adobe forums right after I posted it here.

@ Coushatta,

Sean asked if he could post it on his site. I told him feel free to and spread it to the masses! lol

I've been playing a bit more with this and here's what I noticed.

I still get quite a bit of lag when using the auto mask so turn it off.
I tried this on a recent catalog I created for a wedding I did over the weekend. I had my .cr2 raw files converted to dng on import. The brushs work very fast on these files.

On my old converted catalog (converted from LR 1.4) and using the brushes on .cr2 files there was a lot more lag when working on images that already had a brush adjustment. After deleting the adjustment that was already on the image and recreating a new brush adjustment it worked much faster. I also noticed a slight bit of lag on the .jpg files in the converted catalog.

After reading about more of the settings I changed on tweakguides.com, all the settings that I adjusted have to do with 3D texture and rendering for games. I could be wrong but I don't see LR as a 3D app and it shouldn't need all those settings. By having those options enabled, it could be causing the video performance issues many are having. Not all video cards may have this issue because by default when a 3D game is not running those options may be disabled (just a thought and my .02).
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hbdigimg says:

I saw it there after I posted the recommendation (and commented there also). Thanks for sharing this, Mark.
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Coushatta says:

Thanks for additional info, Mark. I also turned off the Auto Mask and got some improvement. I also don't see why LR2 is engaging the 3D settings. I will give the DNG a try and see what improvement I get.

The improvement I've gotten so far make this the thread of the year!

Thanks from all Nvidia users.
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Lars Pohlmann says:

I hope Adobe follows this thread. It might be helpful for them...
Maybe someone should point them here.
I'm on a mac so this doesn't apply for me.
69 months ago (permalink)

Justin Prettyman [deleted] says:

Nice tip but why make a global adjustment? why not create a profile for the Lightroom executable? that's what I've done.
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Sean McCormack says:

Hi Mark, It's not my blog, but I do write there.. ;)
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Steve Cherrier says:

Thank you so much! These settings made a huge difference while using my NVIDIA 7800 GTX.

*tips hat*
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manChild 762 says:

Its interesting.. I haven't noticed any speed issues, ___BUT___ I am still using the forceware 169.25 drivers since all the ones that came out after that have been garbage.. To tell you the truth I a am thinking about switching to ATI on my next card.. whenever that is..
69 months ago (permalink)

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Brian@Chaldon says:

Hmm. Tried those settings on my 7600GT card but they don't appear to have any effect.
68 months ago (permalink)

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brettmaxwell says:

I have a Toshiba laptop, about 18mo old, and the closest menu I could find was an Intel OpenGL one with the following settings (current setting in parentheses):

Asynchronous Flip (off)
Triple Buffering (default)
Flipping Policy (flip)
Depth Buffer Bit Depth (Default)
Force S3TC Texture Compression (off)
Force FXT1 Texture Compression (off)
Driver Memory Footprint (Normal)
Texture Color Depth (Desktop Color Depth)
Anistropic Filtering (application control)

I changed the anistropic filtering and triple buffering to off, since those seem to match up to findings here. Any other advice?
68 months ago (permalink)

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dooda says:

I've been holding off on getting LR2 because of the issues that I was hearing about. I have a Radeon 9550. Do you think that I need to make any adjustments to it? I don't even know where I would go to do that (XP).
68 months ago (permalink)

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Purple Umbrella Photos is a group administrator Purple Umbrella Photos says:

Haven't heard any specific complaints about ATI gear.

Although I'm a huge LR fan, I think I would recommend holding off on buying LR2, until you see the results from the promised 2.1 release.

No harm in trying the 2.0 free trial version. I believe that the 2.1 when available will reset the trial clock.
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ambient troutmask is a group administrator ambient troutmask says:

If you are in the market for a new graphics card, then get a Matrox. Matrox cards work really well with image editing software. I use a Matrox P690 LP PCIe x1 which is great with LR. You will loose a lot of the fancy video and game playing stuff but get a stable and accurate result for 2 D imaging. If you do lots of video editing you may require something with a little more memory.
Matrox cards are wonderful on two screen systems.
68 months ago (permalink)

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ctwoolsey says:

Tweaking with these settings has also appeared to solve my multi monitor issues with LR2 and NVidia
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BigPhilUK says:

I followed the instructions here a couple of weeks ago and noticed a slight improvement in the adjustment brush performance (my gradient tool has always been good for some reason) but tonight I noticed the "Relaunch and Optimize" button in the Catalog settings. This claims to improve performance if you have a large catalog. I have just under 12,000 photos so decided to give it a try.
WOW what an improvement, adjustments now happen as I move the mouse, not 20-30 seconds later. Give it a try, it only took about 5 minutes.
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januaryman says:

Bumping this up, as it appears to be relevant to recent LR3 performance -speed issues.

Also an article: www.lightroomqueen.com/blog/2009/05/02/hurry-up-lightroom...
47 months ago (permalink)

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