s j carter 1:23pm, 21 February 2014
HI THERE DOES ANYONE HAVE EXPERIENCE OF ADDING AN INNER FORESTAY TO A 9m. Any suggestions on strengthening the deck, mast fitting etc etc very welcome cheers simon
pjbharrison 5 years ago
Freebird 1011, Duncan, did one recently, I believe.
Awaiting photos....
spearhead_027 5 years ago
When I looked at Super Snoopy in very early 2004, she had a reserve forestay that could be clipped onto an additional anchorage on the foredeck, presumably for use with small headsails. Not sure what happened at the top end, but there is as standard a second halliard exit block, at least on Proctor masts.
Ian
Super Snoopy 050 5 years ago
When I bought Super Snoopy, she had, what I took to be, an emergency forestay. There was an attachment up high via a T terminal and a highfield lever at the bottom of the forestay. What I couldn't figure out (neither could have a dozen fellow club members who are supposed to know everything) where the highfield lever attached. In the end I took it off, but every year I mean to devise a method of using it. As I intend trying for Ireland this summer, i'm looking at this thread with interest! I'll take a photo of the position of the attachment point tomorrow if the rain is sufficiently light to use a camera.
sailing bye1 5 years ago
Sailing Bye has an inner forestay fitted to the mast just below the radar reflector with a halliard exit just below, the mast is by Proctor spars. On the deck is a U bolt just behind the anchor well. I have rigged a smaller jib occassionally but as i sail single handed most of the time tend not to bother and have the forestay secured to the mast.
Unfortunatelly i don't have any pictures taken from a distance, if you look on my photo stream you will see a couple of pictures taken from the cockpit but not very clear.
Super Snoopy 050 5 years ago
The attachment point is about 6 inches lower than the kosher forestay. Picture uploaded - if you download and blow it up to 200% you'll see where it is.
s j carter 5 years ago
Thanks for the info I was thinking of beefing up the deck just behind the roller reefing attachment thanks for the photo cheers simon
Freebird 1011 5 years ago
I will photo next time I am at the boat. In the mean time I will try and shed a little light. On my Proctor mast I riveted a Selden fore stay attachment point 517-911-01 (page 24 yacht catalogue) with a sheave box underneath. I cut the slots in the mast with a router because they must have round corners not square. All this fits just below the spinnaker halyard exit points and sheaves etc. There is no weld on this fitting and it takes an eye fitting on the wire fore stay.
I put 2 attachment points at deck level. The first at the aft end of the anchor locker where I just cut a hole for a straight 50*8*200mm SS plate and bolted it to the bulkhead. (Will be clear in photo) It required a little cut out in the anchor locker lid. At the front end of the anchor locker under the deck just clear the furller I put a 50*100 hardwood beam across to deck/hull flange joint shaping to fit – not easy, then put a long u-bolt through the deck and beam. You could use a highfield lever to tension the fore stay but they are pricy. I intend to lash the lower end with dymena.
s j carter 5 years ago
Thanks Freebird much appreciated I was looking at a similar fitting made by Wichard that goes into a slot but is in 2 halves so it fits in a narrower slot before being riveted to to mast then bolted together here is the link
marinestore.co.ukWichard_Babystay_Tang.html?gclid=CMzP19O...
Thanks for the advice would love to see some photos regards Simon
s j carter 5 years ago
i think the link wont work here is another www.bluemarinestore.com/wichard-baby-stay-tang-mast-fitti...
cheers
pjbharrison 5 years ago
Hows the work on the Gartside coming along, Freebird?
Freebird 1011 5 years ago
Work on Gartside 163 is slow due to paying work being good! which is good I suppose? I now have the engine and rudder fitted and started to fit out the inside, Purchased plywood for deck at great expense.
Good news is I have bought a smart phone with a camera to make photo posting easier. Bad news is the operator is *not so smart* but hopefully I will get used to it soon.
Cheers, Duncan.
Freebird 1011 5 years ago
Photos up at last!
s j carter 5 years ago
Thanks freebird very informative can I ask a question, is the pipe I see in the anchor locker a pipe for taking the chain down to the bilges i am thinking of doing something like this for Trojan as I would like all the heavy stuff as low as possible, regards simon
Freebird 1011 5 years ago
Yes the pipe takes chain and rope to under the forward bunks. A handy thing to have but we have never really used it. We do anchor quite a bit and the chain and warp stay in the locker and emergency extra warp is left threaded through the pipe. Better seamanship would be to stow and secure this lot much more ofton.
s j carter 5 years ago
Could be so kind as to photo at some point the chain pipe as it goes into the locker, what is the pipe made from? any ideas what i could use to fit a similar system in Trojan cheers simon
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