Vidwatts 9:20pm, 17 June 2013
Achilles do seem to be somewhat ignored by PBO I've noticed, but at last there is a complimentary mention of them in PBO 563 - Summer 2013 feature by Peter Poland on affordable bilge keelers.

He describes the Achilles as a "sleek, speedy cruiser" and a boat with "an enviable reputation as a capable ocean-crossing cruiser-racer."

There's then a quote from the Achilles Association, whoever they are, and references MingMing 2.

They quote the cost of an Achilles 24 as "from £2495".
NormanKlipspringer Posted 5 years ago. Edited by NormanKlipspringer (admin) 5 years ago
Yes I agree, it is about time Peter Poland mentioned the Achilles. The quote you refer to is taken from the standard specification sheet from 1979 published by Butler Mouldings and produced on the Association web site and refers to the difference in keel draft. Probably a misprint but accurately printed from the original. The difference is really more like 6ins. References to Mingming II are of course all over the site after the splendid presentation by Roger Taylor at our get together at Mumbles YC earlier this month.
The price quoted is I suspect just found by looking at current adverts.
To find out who the association is have a look at the main site I am surprised that you have not found this site given how long you have been a member of the Flickr Achilles group (6years).
Skykomish1 5 years ago
Surely Norman, David was being ironical when he queried who the Achilles Association is...or at least I hope
busy home [deleted] 5 years ago
Ironical..? ! thats a good word...
i agree malcom
NormanKlipspringer 5 years ago
I stand corrected.
Vidwatts 5 years ago
Er, yes, sorry Norman - always tricky getting across ironicalness in a post.
Vidwatts 5 years ago
There's another Achilles photo in PBO this month - a small but good photo of no 411 in lumpy seas, part of the article on the Holms Race.

I also saw one in Yachting Monthly recently - illustrating an article about collision regs - a very small A24 with a very large tanker well behind it.
SHAMAL411 Posted 5 years ago. Edited by SHAMAL411 (member) 5 years ago
Hello Everybody,
I've just added the PBO photo to the group set above -- me Ed and Ed's son in Shamal on the Holms race -- fame at last !
Thanks Norman for your post , a nice surprise.
This years race is on 7th September and open to anybody . Go to the Portishead Cruising Club web site for details . or just phone the secretary . We usually get 50-60 boats from several clubs - A 36 mile course down tide and up -- the premier Bristol Channel race in my view and great fun. Any takers?
Amrum 9171Y 5 years ago
Yes, the best race in the Bristol Channel, and won by Snifter A24 534 about 3 years ago, and Jobiska a few years before that. Thornbury SC have won the race rather a lot over the last 10 years, so it'll be interesting to see what happens this year. I'm crewing in the Heol 7.4 which came 2nd overall in the Lundy Race this year, and won the fast class. I don't think Amrum is a racer, so I'm keeping her for cruising at present.
Little_Plum 5 years ago
Due to work commitments I have hardly spent any time on Little Plum at all. So maintenance is well behind schedule. So, I won't be able to take part in the Holms race this year. I am hoping to get over to Portishead that weekend but will have to do some maintenance while I am there. Some re-wiring and I really must get the autohelm fitted, it is still in the packing it was sent in. I will pop up to the Royal and try and get some photos of any Butler yachts I see starting.

If you are taking part have a great time!
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