Anchor windlass

BERT A24 10:34pm, 6 March 2013
Hi Everyone, has anyone any experience of fitting an anchor windlass to an Achilles 24. I know it is something that would not normally be done, but I have limited use of my right arm and shoulder and would have difficulty pulling up an anchor. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
busy home [deleted] 6 years ago
H i ... Welcome ... Have you tried a Fortress . Lightr chain and rope ?
BERT A24 6 years ago
Yes I have an FX7, which I think is a bit on the small side and a 20lb CQR. My main problem will be getting it off the bottom without using a trip line, which is a bit of a nuisance.
pjbharrison 6 years ago
Not sure if price is comparable but might help

Could use sheet winch to haul anchor rode with winchrite. Could help with jib winches too if arm/shoulder weak
busy home [deleted] 6 years ago
Have you got a winch on your mast? Can you use it to take the load
Via a rope ,, Or a longer lead to a sheet winch?
20 cqr is a bit of an over kill 15 would be fine..
Or a chain pawl . ?
What about a bigger Fortress .. ? How much have you used the 7
Goskar has a 7 Seems fine to me,
I m just throwing thoughts here. I think I would try to aviod a deck winch .
I dont know why though. !
BERT A24 6 years ago
Thanks Paul, just had a look and it is a very nice piece of kit but I have 20m of 8mm chain and about 60m of 14mm rode which would be a bit of a handful on the winches. I managed to pick up a Lofrans Royal windlass which needs a minor repair for very humble money.
BERT A24 6 years ago
Hi Ron, no I don't have a winch on the mast. I haven't tried the FX7 at all as yet. I have only started working on the boat again, I've not been able to do anything since November last year as I'm still recovering from surgery. Incidentally I would like your advice on what to do with parts of the joint between the hull and the deck where there are some cracks in the gel
pjbharrison 6 years ago
Hi Bert

Got some photos?
BERT A24 6 years ago
Not yet Paul, but I will be at the boat tomorrow and will try and remember to take the camera.
pjbharrison 6 years ago
Where are you based?
BERT A24 6 years ago
Near the north coast, not far from Slycat777. I will probably use Coleraine, Portrush and Ballycastle as bases to sail from.
pjbharrison Posted 6 years ago. Edited by pjbharrison (member) 6 years ago
I'm planning on going to Portrush on Monday ( If forecast is OK) to take a Beneteau 31.7 to Southampton!
Leaving Portrush Tuesday.
Andrew Curry 6 years ago
Hi and Welcome, nice to see another Achilles from N Ireland :-)
NormanKlipspringer 6 years ago
Have you thought of using an Alberney ring like a lot of fishermen so that you use the boat engine to get the anchor up? Have look at the following link
The only real negative is the size of the buoy required and where to store it on an A24, but this may be a price you can pay for a relatively simple solution.
BERT A24 6 years ago
Just found a suitable anchor windlass:
Amrum 9171Y 6 years ago
Thanks for the Alderney ring clip, Norman. I've not come across that before.
Red Marlin 6 years ago
Hello Bert. I have bought loads of equipment like that on u-tube but not with my own money. This was before I retired from being an offshore oil industry buyer. My wife insisted on us buying an electric winch 6 years ago in Levkas for our 9 metre along with 60 metres of chain. I did not agree but was overruled, no surprise there. Also cost us new stem roller and big batteries. Got to admit though she was right and it is a big benefit to my aging back.
BERT A24 6 years ago
Just had a look at next weeks weather Paul. Once you round Torr Head the wind will be on your tail most of the way down, force 4 to 5 but very cold. Thanks for the link Norman to the Alderney ring, I will give it some thought. The only drawback I see is the area of clear water required and a shorter chain which I'm not so sure about as most of my cruising will be the west coast of Scotland and the western isles and some of the anchorages there can get a bit crowded. I'll bet you are now glad Tony that you were overruled, that's my problem too I am not getting any younger and want to make life on board as easy as possible. Although the windlass I have is a manual one it should be better than nothing.
rothwell_neil 6 years ago
The Fortress is a great anchor, I thought the size was small but weight is not the issue and mine has held in some knarly winds. Great to pull up as so light. FX7 perfect for the Achilles especially where you have mud and sand bottoms.
pjbharrison 6 years ago
Thanks Bert

Skippers plan
Tuesday " we will set off earlyish with a favourable tide with the objective of getting to Ballycastle before the tide turns against us. We will stop off there until about 1700 to avoid rapid spring tides against us. Then off again and down the North Channel overnight with a favourable tide.

If necessary we can make Dublin before sunset on Wed. However if the winds are favourable (too early to tell yet) it would be prudent to keep going and make for Falmouth by sunset Fri. "

Is your boat in Portrush harbour?
BERT A24 6 years ago
No Paul, the boat is out of the water at present in a large shed about 10 miles from Portrush. It is much easier to work inside rather than depend on the weather. Thanks for your comments Neill, I was a bit concerned that the FX7 was a bit small for a 30 knott wind. Not that I hope to be anchoring in those conditions but my motto has always been "better looking at it than looking for it."
rothwell_neil Posted 6 years ago. Edited by rothwell_neil (member) 6 years ago
Surprising how low the strain on the anchor is from wind, there is a good app that shows that a low windage boat like the achilles has very low pull on anchor chain, hence small anchors and light Fortress works. 22kg pull in a force 7 and 58kg in a 9. On android it is called windpressure. Shows that if you are due a blow reduce windage as much as possible, play with the options and see. Now a plastic lozenge has massive windage. I use the Fortress when I am worried and it held me without dragging on a few times when it blew up a bit. I am happy to use it on the Hustler with much more windage. They claim that they do not reset with tide and that they can trip but most people in the Solway use a danforth as they are best for sand and mud and we have lots of tide, Fortress is a danforth in aluminium. I also have a good make CQR plough and this always worries me, it holds well but when you break it out often find it only has one fluke with a minimal mud line on it showing that you are often hooked on just half a fluke in mud, still works.

One last point, the fortress has two settings one for mud and one for sand. Apparently does make a difference..
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